Re: Xubuntu on OLPC X-1

2014-07-02 Thread Richard A. Smith

On 07/01/2014 10:51 AM, Hellânio Costa wrote:

Thanks for listening,

Well, apparently I better go from idea to use fedora with xfce, but it
becomes unfeasible to use sd card in each device and therefore we
restricted the internal memory of the notebook.

I believe a teacher contact Ricardo Carrano can I get a case of
successful use of these notebooks.

The most important thing now is to get a developer key for me to use the
OLPC OS Builder and leave the system as clean as possible.


With the exception of Postal Mail one of the procedures listed here:

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activation_and_developer_keys

Should get you a developer key.

If you want to get keys for a lot of machines all at once then you 
should follow the collection stick procedure here:


http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Collection_stick

If you have any problems with getting the collection stick to work a 
very, very common failure is just a USB disk that behaves badly.  There 
are both hardware problems or formatting problems that can trip up the 
procedure.


If the collection stick doesn't seem to work then try a different USB 
disk.  If that doesn't help then just report back your scenario here and 
someone will be able to help you sort out where the problem is.


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Re: Xubuntu on OLPC X-1

2014-07-01 Thread James Cameron
Xubuntu does work on the XO-1 and XO-1.5, but it isn't easy.

I agree with Martin, a better path may be to customise OLPC OS using
our OS Builder, to remove Sugar and add XFCE.  It could probably be
made to look identical to Xubuntu, with some work.

My prior work on Ubuntu for the XO-1 and XO-1.5 in 2010, with a few
changes, was successful in getting Xubuntu desktop running on an XO-1
and XO-1.5.

Here is the method I used:

1.  select an Ubuntu Trusty 14.04 desktop system with at least 8GB
RAM, and install the debootstrap package:

sudo apt-get install debootstrap

2.  clone the trusty-minimal branch of my uxo repository:

git clone --depth 1 --branch \
trusty-minimal git://dev.laptop.org/users/quozl/uxo/.git uxo
cd uxo

3.  run the mkuxo script as root:

sudo ./mkuxo

This will download the minimal packages, assemble an operating
system, and put in the built/ directory a uxo-minimal.trusty.img
file.

This file is a disk image, ready for writing to an SD card or USB
drive with minimum size 4GB, erasing what is there.

4.  write the disk image to an SD card or USB drive, and boot an
XO-1.5 or XO-1 from it, (it must be unsecured),

5.  log in at the console with username olpc, no password,

6.  add a USB ethernet adapter, or manually configure the wireless
network:

sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid my-open-network
sudo dhclient wlan0

7.  install the graphics drivers:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install \
xserver-org \
xinit \
xterm \
xserver-xorg-video-openchrome \
xserver-xorg-video-geode

8.  install the Ubuntu standard and Xubuntu desktop packages:

sudo apt-get install ubuntu-standard xubuntu-desktop

9.  reboot

sudo reboot


This would need further work before users would be happy with it.  In
particular it boots much slower than OLPC OS, and login takes a while.
The screensaver on XO-1.5 turns off video output, which causes the
image to degrade.  There's no network connection applet.

Installing onto the internal storage of the XO-1, instead of using an
SD card or USB drive, is probably possible, but I have not written
that script.

Installing Xubuntu is also very slow on an XO-1, with an SD card,
taking an hour or so.  Including the Xubuntu Desktop package in the
build might speed that up, but there are some bugs preventing that.

I hope that can get you or someone else started, or at least help you
assess the size and scope of the task.

Ask the teachers what parts of Xubuntu they want; the desktop, the
apps, the infrastructure, the security updates, or the name.  ;-)

On developer keys, use the collection stick on our Wiki and send me
the laptops.dat file.  Try just two laptops to start with, and I can
see if a key can be made for them.

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Re: Xubuntu on OLPC X-1

2014-07-01 Thread Hellânio Costa
Thanks for listening,

Well, apparently I better go from idea to use fedora with xfce, but it
becomes unfeasible to use sd card in each device and therefore we
restricted the internal memory of the notebook.

I believe a teacher contact Ricardo Carrano can I get a case of successful
use of these notebooks.

The most important thing now is to get a developer key for me to use the
OLPC OS Builder and leave the system as clean as possible.

Thanks again for the answers.


2014-07-01 7:40 GMT-03:00 James Cameron qu...@laptop.org:

 Xubuntu does work on the XO-1 and XO-1.5, but it isn't easy.

 I agree with Martin, a better path may be to customise OLPC OS using
 our OS Builder, to remove Sugar and add XFCE.  It could probably be
 made to look identical to Xubuntu, with some work.

 My prior work on Ubuntu for the XO-1 and XO-1.5 in 2010, with a few
 changes, was successful in getting Xubuntu desktop running on an XO-1
 and XO-1.5.

 Here is the method I used:

 1.  select an Ubuntu Trusty 14.04 desktop system with at least 8GB
 RAM, and install the debootstrap package:

 sudo apt-get install debootstrap

 2.  clone the trusty-minimal branch of my uxo repository:

 git clone --depth 1 --branch \
 trusty-minimal git://dev.laptop.org/users/quozl/uxo/.git uxo
 cd uxo

 3.  run the mkuxo script as root:

 sudo ./mkuxo

 This will download the minimal packages, assemble an operating
 system, and put in the built/ directory a uxo-minimal.trusty.img
 file.

 This file is a disk image, ready for writing to an SD card or USB
 drive with minimum size 4GB, erasing what is there.

 4.  write the disk image to an SD card or USB drive, and boot an
 XO-1.5 or XO-1 from it, (it must be unsecured),

 5.  log in at the console with username olpc, no password,

 6.  add a USB ethernet adapter, or manually configure the wireless
 network:

 sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
 sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid my-open-network
 sudo dhclient wlan0

 7.  install the graphics drivers:

 sudo apt-get update
 sudo apt-get install \
 xserver-org \
 xinit \
 xterm \
 xserver-xorg-video-openchrome \
 xserver-xorg-video-geode

 8.  install the Ubuntu standard and Xubuntu desktop packages:

 sudo apt-get install ubuntu-standard xubuntu-desktop

 9.  reboot

 sudo reboot


 This would need further work before users would be happy with it.  In
 particular it boots much slower than OLPC OS, and login takes a while.
 The screensaver on XO-1.5 turns off video output, which causes the
 image to degrade.  There's no network connection applet.

 Installing onto the internal storage of the XO-1, instead of using an
 SD card or USB drive, is probably possible, but I have not written
 that script.

 Installing Xubuntu is also very slow on an XO-1, with an SD card,
 taking an hour or so.  Including the Xubuntu Desktop package in the
 build might speed that up, but there are some bugs preventing that.

 I hope that can get you or someone else started, or at least help you
 assess the size and scope of the task.

 Ask the teachers what parts of Xubuntu they want; the desktop, the
 apps, the infrastructure, the security updates, or the name.  ;-)

 On developer keys, use the collection stick on our Wiki and send me
 the laptops.dat file.  Try just two laptops to start with, and I can
 see if a key can be made for them.

 --
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 http://quozl.linux.org.au/




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Xubuntu on OLPC X-1

2014-06-30 Thread Hellânio Costa
Hello,

I'm Hellanio Costa. I work with the One Computer per student projeto (UCA)
at the Universidade Federal do Ceará (http://blogs.virtual.ufc.br/uca-ce2/).

We have a school with over 500 OLPC X1 and teachers are asking me to
install xubuntu, but I do not know where to start. I also do not have the
developer key and do not know where to turn now that OLPC no longer support
these machines.
Can anyone help me?


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Re: Xubuntu on OLPC X-1

2014-06-30 Thread Walter Bender
Perhaps Ruben can help you with developer keys. Re xubuntu, it is not
supported, so you will be on your own there. I could recommend you look at
trisquel, a pure FOSS version of Ubuntu that has active support. Or stick
with Fedora, which has on-going support.

regards.

-walter


On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Hellânio Costa hella...@virtual.ufc.br
wrote:


 Hello,

 I'm Hellanio Costa. I work with the One Computer per student projeto (UCA)
 at the Universidade Federal do Ceará (http://blogs.virtual.ufc.br/uca-ce2/).

 We have a school with over 500 OLPC X1 and teachers are asking me to
 install xubuntu, but I do not know where to start. I also do not have the
 developer key and do not know where to turn now that OLPC no longer support
 these machines.
 Can anyone help me?


 --
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Re: Xubuntu on OLPC X-1

2014-06-30 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Hellaino,

that is a fairly complex path, there are a few dozen important tweaks and
configurations you need for it to run well.

You can probably get Fedora with XFCE, which will be very similar for end
users, by using OLPC's OS Builder (OOB) --
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OS_Builder

If you really want Ubuntu, I suggest you first play with OOB, look at all
the tweaks it applies, plus the custom packages (olpc-utils, etc), and
study how to apply similar changes to xubuntu.

hth,



m



On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Hellânio Costa hella...@virtual.ufc.br
wrote:


 Hello,

 I'm Hellanio Costa. I work with the One Computer per student projeto (UCA)
 at the Universidade Federal do Ceará (http://blogs.virtual.ufc.br/uca-ce2/).

 We have a school with over 500 OLPC X1 and teachers are asking me to
 install xubuntu, but I do not know where to start. I also do not have the
 developer key and do not know where to turn now that OLPC no longer support
 these machines.
 Can anyone help me?


 --
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 Um tropeço pode evitar uma queda.

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