Hi Otto, On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 2:51 PM Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > The most frequent thing I see people complain about is not new to > 11.8, but I think introduced in 10.4 with InnoDB refusing to start if > crash recovery is needed for a database of an earlier major version.
A format version identifier was introduced in the InnoDB write-ahead log (ib_logfile0) in MySQL 5.7.9 and in MariaDB 10.2. The format was slightly changed in MariaDB 10.3 and 10.4. In 10.5, https://jira.mariadb.org/browse/MDEV-12353 was a major change, which involved a full rewrite of the log record logic. There was another major rewrite in the MariaDB Server 10.8 short-time release (https://jira.mariadb.org/browse/MDEV-14425). I don't think that there is any compelling need to revise the format of ib_logfile0 further, other than the format of innodb_encrypt_log=ON (see https://jira.mariadb.org/browse/MDEV-36024). That format change should be possible to implement while preserving the ability to recover from old files. Apart from the InnoDB log file format, there has been one change to the data files. The corruption-prone change buffer, which had long been disabled by default, was finally removed in MariaDB Server 11.0 as part of https://jira.mariadb.org/browse/MDEV-29694. Related to that, there is an open issue https://jira.mariadb.org/browse/MDEV-36556 which we have not been able to reproduce internally. > To help DBAs ensure they have a clean shutdown before doing a major > version upgrade, I was wondering what are the best ways to confirm a > clean shutdown by checking the MariaDB logs or files in > /var/log/mysql? Specifically, what log entries or patterns in the > MariaDB logs indicate a clean shutdown? I think that the best way might be to check the contents of the ib_logfile0, similar to how recv_sys_t::find_checkpoint() does it. That logic could rather easily be copied to a separate tool, possibly written in a scripting language. Marko -- Marko Mäkelä, Lead Developer InnoDB MariaDB plc _______________________________________________ developers mailing list -- developers@lists.mariadb.org To unsubscribe send an email to developers-le...@lists.mariadb.org