Re: [Developers] post developers meeting(presentation tags)

2005-01-31 Thread Joost Diepenmaat
On Sat, Jan 29, 2005 at 02:31:32PM +0100, Andr? van Toly wrote: OK, but what would be a good MVC framework for MMBase? Good question :-) The only generic MVC framework that I've attempted to use with MMBase is struts, and I wasn't impressed - there is a lot of overlap in functionality between

Re: [Developers] post developers meeting(presentation tags)

2005-01-29 Thread André van Toly
At 16:31 +0100 28-01-2005, Joost Diepenmaat wrote: How's that different from creating the builders and relations first before writing the jsp pages to display/edit them? If you need to change your model (move data from one table to the next, use different relations etc) that really is much easier

Re: [Developers] post developers meeting(presentation tags)

2005-01-29 Thread Michiel Meeuwissen
Rob van Maris wrote: Michiel M The other thing that I would very much miss is the mm:content / escaper functionallity, which perhaps would be a detail, but actually quit essential, because generally it is wrong to just put your field to the page, HTML-escaping a field value:

Re: [Developers] post developers meeting(presentation tags)

2005-01-28 Thread Kees Jongenburger
jtsp:forEach tags: the forEach tag can be useful. but when people start using it they will need the exact functions that are in the mmbase taglib -know the size of the list -know if the list is not empty -know if this is the first / last element This partly overlaps with Wouter's

Re: [Developers] post developers meeting(presentation tags)

2005-01-28 Thread Michiel Meeuwissen
Kees Jongenburger wrote: I am not shure , but I did not find how to get the size of the list and the current index so odd/even was not possible Actually I though I did it alreayd, but turned out that I used mm:index. mm:index id=i ... tr class=${i mod 2 eq 0 ? 'even' : 'odd'} ...

Re: [Developers] post developers meeting(presentation tags)

2005-01-28 Thread Joost Diepenmaat
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 10:32:53AM +0100, Wouter Heijke wrote: To me using news,posrel,images notation inside a tag is already something that should then be done inside a controller. I disagree - this is something that should be done by the model: news.getImages() or something should implement

Re: [Developers] post developers meeting(presentation tags)

2005-01-28 Thread Kees Jongenburger
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:03:54 +0100, Joost Diepenmaat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 10:32:53AM +0100, Wouter Heijke wrote: To me using news,posrel,images notation inside a tag is already something that should then be done inside a controller. I disagree - this is

Re: [Developers] post developers meeting(presentation tags)

2005-01-28 Thread André van Toly
At 11:30 + 28-01-2005, Kees Jongenburger wrote: It was a while ago but V2 proposed to define the data used in view in xml. This would free us from the posrel problem in jsp pages. I think (like rico said) that the A current way to do this might be to have separates jsp (or jsp parts) to define

Re: [Developers] post developers meeting(presentation tags)

2005-01-28 Thread Joost Diepenmaat
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 12:43:35PM +0100, Andr? van Toly wrote: At 11:30 + 28-01-2005, Kees Jongenburger wrote: [ ... ] I dislike MVC because it's anty OO and you have to do everything 3 or more times. This is more of a problem with certain MVC frameworks than others. Struts makes you