Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-29 Thread Alexey Andreyev
Hello! I've tried to provide Code of Conduct based on Arch Linux CoC, pasted here: https://paste.kde.org/pzdmvyi3t Will try to send it to codereview later, feel free to do it instead of me if it will be easier for you, I'm going to spend some time to learn how to do it correctly пн, 29 окт. 2018

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-29 Thread Alexey Andreyev
community with current details, but I guess it could be helpful for future comparition. пн, 29 окт. 2018 г. в 18:40, Thiago Macieira : > On Monday, 29 October 2018 00:52:49 PDT Alexey Andreyev wrote: > > Talking about CC and KDE's CoC, it's not obvious for me how to perform > > poli

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-29 Thread Alexey Andreyev
> I think we have two camps: > We want a CoC as a feel-good statement of inclusion and tolerance (I think everyone is > committed to this) > AND > 1) We want to use existing situation of laws/self-policing OR > 2) We want a CoC that contains a framework that can get people banned or more Hello,

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-29 Thread Alexey Andreyev
to step back. I do not want to look like annoying person, just wanted to help with controversial subjects. I have no doubts about Qt people professionalism and happy do be a part of the community. пн, 29 окт. 2018 г. в 7:08, Thiago Macieira : > On Sunday, 28 October 2018 17:20:04 PDT Al

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-28 Thread Alexey Andreyev
Thank you, Lydia and everyone! I hope I'm not upsetting anyone. I could accept I'm taking too much attention to the subject. Qt project is very valuable for me as a user and a developer. пн, 29 окт. 2018 г. в 2:53, Lydia Pintscher : > On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 10:45 PM Thiago Macieira > wrote:

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-28 Thread Alexey Andreyev
hy. пн, 29 окт. 2018 г. в 0:44, Thiago Macieira : > On Sunday, 28 October 2018 13:18:02 PDT Alexey Andreyev wrote: > > > The text is clear - actions will be taken to stop the discrimination. > > > That involves technical means (kick / ban) but also more social means > >

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-28 Thread Alexey Andreyev
ouldn't find any > > > controversial sentences. Could you elaborate? Which points shall be > > > discussed? > > > > > > > The controversial discrimination protection sentences at least > should be carefully discussed. It's not some thing that we could

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-28 Thread Alexey Andreyev
nubmer of the conflicts at Qt project before, anything like that. Nobody tried to predict the consequences after accepting current CoC. We just trying to provide some rules and to treat something blindly without even specifying the problem. вс, 28 окт. 2018 г. в 17:35, Elvis Stansvik : > Den

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-28 Thread Alexey Andreyev
my arguments be adressed to someone personally, and I'm not saying there's some conspiracy here. I just want to help to save and develop the community for the future. I agree we need rules. My problem is not any rules are healthy. вс, 28 окт. 2018 г. в 14:37, Elvis Stansvik : > D

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-28 Thread Alexey Andreyev
I agree with you, Konstantin вс, 28 окт. 2018 г. в 13:36, Konstantin Shegunov : > > > On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 10:43 AM Martin Smith wrote: > >> >Oh, it is going to end in A resolution, it may not end the way the >> offended party >> >may feel just, but that's true also for the proposed text. >>

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-28 Thread Alexey Andreyev
Hello, Tomasz! :) Thank you for the question! Current draft based on CoC: > Our Pledge > == > In the interest of fostering an open and welcoming environment, we > as contributors to and maintainers of the Qt Project pledge to make > participation in our project and our community a

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-27 Thread Alexey Andreyev
t those of us empowered, under a CoC, to > resolve cases of abuse, would suddenly lose their ability to resolve abuse > problems and would instead use the CoC to abuse alleged abusers. > > That's what it looks like to me. > > ____ > From: Alexe

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-27 Thread Alexey Andreyev
I agree not interacting is probably not a solution and your contribution without other details is not an excuse. But I think existing CoC have problems. There are statements everywhere about discrimination protection for example which are very controversial. The problem with that in other

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-26 Thread Alexey Andreyev
thers. I agree about reusing some working CoC is good idea. Not sure that there's one yet. сб, 27 окт. 2018 г. в 0:35, Thiago Macieira : > On Friday, 26 October 2018 12:28:42 PDT Alexey Andreyev wrote: > > > I personally think those situations explain why we need a CoC in the

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-26 Thread Alexey Andreyev
> I personally think those situations explain why we need a CoC in the first place and why the judgment on such situations is very subjective, best left to humans, not to a script. And the deliberations should not be in a public forum, like a GitHub issue. If mentioned situations best left to

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-26 Thread Alexey Andreyev
Hello! :) The CoC is a lie. From my point of view, some of the current intentions at least. I'm hesitating a bit, that I'm so loud. I'm doing this to prevent problems at the community, trying to find bottlenecks and provide better solution for us. > The rest should be in the CoC text itself and

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-25 Thread Alexey Andreyev
there's any chances to minimize conflicts more with CoC? Where is professional scientific research that Qt community or Linux or KDE is slowly dying without CoC? I'm afraid that research could probably show the opposite. чт, 25 окт. 2018 г. в 20:48, Alexey Andreyev : > > Don't define it bec

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-25 Thread Alexey Andreyev
> Don't define it because you already know what it is. Just explain the complaint process and create the committee to deal with each complaint on a case by case basis. It could make sense, but then we should made a plan how the committee could work and how many resources could it take. Should it

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-25 Thread Alexey Andreyev
ld Trump, we all know what is bad behavior in this context. > > ____ > From: Alexey Andreyev > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 3:56:18 PM > To: Martin Smith > Cc: Ulf Hermann; Qt development mailing list > Subject: Re: [Development

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-25 Thread Alexey Andreyev
> I suspect that most if not all of the commenters here who object to the CoC object to the attempt to define unacceptable behavior. It really has to be decided on a case by case basis, so remove the examples of unacceptable behavior, and don't attempt to define it at all. I'm okay to develop the

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-25 Thread Alexey Andreyev
I guess NIkolai point was not about the trust and some personal details. I guess everyone could agree that conflicts are possible. The question was is proposed CoC helping to solve them, or is it making things worse? Are there any objective metrics? P.S.: as I said, I personally not against any

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-25 Thread Alexey Andreyev
Hello! Young Qt fanboy, who worried about the future of the project: What problems are CoC trying to solve? Abusive behaviour? People are not social angels at all. But how many situations of problematic behaviour at the Qt project do we have with current terms? When it's ruined some tasks we

Re: [Development] [Google Summer of Code] [Project Ideas] Qt Quick Controls 2 Sailfish Silica Style

2018-04-06 Thread Alexey Andreyev
may have > with regards to implementing a Controls 2 style, but I don’t think I can > put aside enough time to be a mentor for this. > > > > Cheers. > > > > *From:* Alexey Andreyev [mailto:yetanotherandre...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, 3 April 2018 2:14 PM > *To:

Re: [Development] [Google Summer of Code] [Project Ideas] Qt Quick Controls 2 Sailfish Silica Style

2018-04-03 Thread Alexey Andreyev
he controls don't end up in qtquickcontrols2, please at least > consider putting them in qpm (https://www.qpm.io/) so that other people > can benefit from them easily :) > > > > --- > > Jean-Michaël Celerier > > http://www.jcelerier.name > > > > On

Re: [Development] [Google Summer of Code] [Project Ideas] Qt Quick Controls 2 Sailfish Silica Style

2018-04-03 Thread Alexey Andreyev
y > nice; a good candidate for “non-native” cross-platform apps. > > > > Universal - relevant in terms of Windows market share. > > > > As mentioned, I do think the Silica controls look nice, but that’s the > only justification I could think of for including them in > qt

Re: [Development] [Google Summer of Code] [Project Ideas] Qt Quick Controls 2 Sailfish Silica Style

2018-03-23 Thread Alexey Andreyev
Thank you Mitch for the feedback! I've also tried to record current controls on a real device: https://youtu.be/T-qUZMuTGqw (hope not only 360p will be available soon) 2018-03-23 21:55 GMT+03:00 Alexey Andreyev <yetanotherandre...@gmail.com>: > Silica cheat sheet: > https://sailf

Re: [Development] [Google Summer of Code] [Project Ideas] Qt Quick Controls 2 Sailfish Silica Style

2018-03-23 Thread Alexey Andreyev
enshots of it? I read that entire page and the Silica > docs but couldn’t see anything. > > > > Cheers. > > > > *From:* Development [mailto:development-bounces+mitch.curtis= > qt...@qt-project.org] *On Behalf Of *Alexey Andreyev > *Sent:* Friday, 23 March 2018

[Development] [Google Summer of Code] [Project Ideas] Qt Quick Controls 2 Sailfish Silica Style

2018-03-23 Thread Alexey Andreyev
Hello! My name is Alexey, what do you think about Silica Style for QQC2 as a gsoc project? I have some notes here: http://aa13q.ru/qqc2-silica-style-en/ and want to create a proposal. ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org