2015-07-28 9:50 GMT+02:00 Robert Iakobashvili corobe...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Marc Mutz marc.m...@kdab.com wrote:
On Monday 27 July 2015 20:44:48 Thiago Macieira wrote:
On Monday 27 July 2015 21:41:44 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
Yes,but this requires making override
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Marc Mutz marc.m...@kdab.com wrote:
On Monday 27 July 2015 20:44:48 Thiago Macieira wrote:
On Monday 27 July 2015 21:41:44 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
Yes,but this requires making override visible in every file of the
project.
We can solve this by having a
On Monday 27 July 2015 20:44:48 Thiago Macieira wrote:
On Monday 27 July 2015 21:41:44 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
Yes,but this requires making override visible in every file of the
project.
We can solve this by having a global #ifdef that can change the setting.
Or an environment variable,
On 28 Jul 2015, at 10:48, Marc Mutz marc.m...@kdab.com wrote:
On Monday 27 July 2015 20:44:48 Thiago Macieira wrote:
On Monday 27 July 2015 21:41:44 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
Yes,but this requires making override visible in every file of the
project.
We can solve this by having a global
On 2015-07-28 04:29, Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote:
Isn't this needless convenience? Yet another environment variable that
needs documenting? If you want to inspect the contents of a QString, can't
you just add the suitable escape code to your own code? Forcing
qPrintable() or qUtf8Printable()
I would repeat what I said in JIRA. Everything that Thiago explained makes
sense to me as soon as it does not break behavior of existing applications.
If global flag to enable escaping of QString contents is going to be
introduced then it should be disabled by default.
On changes that might
People were warned in the changelog.
I've already quoted Adams in JIRA, but this is exactly how changelog warnen
users of Qt about this change:
https://youtu.be/VGLFweev_iI?t=386
Among panicking customers not understanding wtf is happening,
unintelligible message,
posted in the wrong place and
On Tuesday 28 July 2015 09:44:23 Matthew Woehlke wrote:
While I'm generally trying to stay out of this debate, I'd like to toss
in that a QString → QString or QString → QByteArray function that
converts from raw to either C-style escaped or HTML-style escaped (or
for bonus points, both), AND
On Tuesday 28 July 2015 18:42:20 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
People were warned in the changelog.
I've already quoted Adams in JIRA, but this is exactly how changelog warnen
users of Qt about this change:
https://youtu.be/VGLFweev_iI?t=386
Among panicking customers not understanding wtf is
On Monday 27. July 2015 01:25:18 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
Hi! We (Russian Qt community) have a situation we could not resolve with
Thiago Macieira in bug tracker, so have to ask for Chief Maintainer's
attention.
The bug in question is there:
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-47316
[...]
On Monday 27 July 2015 01:25:18 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
Hi! We (Russian Qt community) have a situation we could not resolve with
Thiago Macieira in bug tracker, so have to ask for Chief Maintainer's
attention.
The bug in question is there:
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-47316
Yes, I
On Monday 27 July 2015 20:52:24 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
Let's make it harder, can you guesss that it even is a link to paypal
website with qDebug() as you intend it to work without copypasting?
раураl.соm ?
Hint: only 2 letters here are in english.
With qDebug() as it is in Qt 5.5, it
The problem with your approach to qDebug is that it only works well where
most of the text is in English and only individual letters are unicode.
Once we venture into the territory of debugging 50%+ non-latin, it will be
impossible to extract any useful information from debug output at a glance.
Question, how much do you think this use case happens for non-latin users
compared to the one I, and Knoll Lars are arguing about?
2015-07-27 20:25 GMT+03:00 Thiago Macieira thiago.macie...@intel.com:
On Monday 27 July 2015 09:05:29 Thiago Macieira wrote:
а, which was the attack vector for
On Monday 27 July 2015 09:05:29 Thiago Macieira wrote:
а, which was the attack vector for homograph sites like pаypal.com or
pаypаl.com or раураl.com or other permutations of the letters. A control
Question: which of the three is the legit website? And what method did you use
to find out?
Let's make it harder, can you guesss that it even is a link to paypal
website with qDebug() as you intend it to work without copypasting?
раураl.соm ?
Hint: only 2 letters here are in english.
2015-07-27 20:25 GMT+03:00 Thiago Macieira thiago.macie...@intel.com:
On Monday 27 July 2015
Once we venture into the territory of debugging 50%+ non-latin, it will
be impossible to extract any useful information from debug output at a
glance.
And that is the situation, where aforementioned flag to change the
behaviour in one place will be VERY useful. Unlike your suggestion of
fixing
27.07.2015, 11:01, "NIkolai Marchenko" enmarantis...@gmail.com: Once we venture into the territory of debugging 50%+ non-latin, it will be impossible to extract any useful information from debug output at a glance. And that is the situation, where aforementioned flag to change the behaviour in one
On Monday 27 July 2015 21:41:44 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
Yes,but this requires making override visible in every file of the project.
We can solve this by having a global #ifdef that can change the setting.
--
Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com
Software Architect - Intel Open
\u0440\u0430\u0443\u0440\u0430l.\u0441\u043em
Can you really tell at a glance what exactly you are looking at here
without consulting the oracle or, at least, reencoding it to readable
format?
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:22 PM, Thiago Macieira thiago.macie...@intel.com
wrote:
On Monday 27 July
On Monday 27 July 2015 21:27:23 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
\u0440\u0430\u0443\u0440\u0430l.\u0441\u043em
Oh, really? Note, I said, without copypasting to uncode converter.
It's quite evident it's not a link to paypal.com because I can't see paypal
there.
--
Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira
Oh, but now you KNOW that it is a misspeled link to paypal. In real
situation you won't have this forward knowlegde.
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Thiago Macieira thiago.macie...@intel.com
wrote:
On Monday 27 July 2015 21:27:23 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
On 27 Jul 2015, at 21:14, Thiago Macieira thiago.macie...@intel.com wrote:
On Monday 27 July 2015 21:50:15 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
Oh, but now you KNOW that it is a misspeled link to paypal. In real
situation you won't have this forward knowlegde.
The point is that I have all of the
Yes,but this requires making override visible in every file of the project.
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Ruslan Nigmatullin euroeles...@yandex.ru
wrote:
27.07.2015, 11:01, NIkolai Marchenko enmarantis...@gmail.com:
Once we venture into the territory of debugging 50%+ non-latin, it will
On Monday 27 July 2015 21:50:15 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
Oh, but now you KNOW that it is a misspeled link to paypal. In real
situation you won't have this forward knowlegde.
The point is that I have all of the information I need. If I see a debug
output saying:
ClassName::openLink: trying to
\u0440\u0430\u0443\u0440\u0430l.\u0441\u043em
Oh, really? Note, I said, without copypasting to uncode converter.
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:22 PM, Thiago Macieira thiago.macie...@intel.com
wrote:
On Monday 27 July 2015 20:52:24 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
Let's make it harder, can you guesss
On Monday 27 July 2015 22:01:26 Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote:
On 27 Jul 2015, at 21:14, Thiago Macieira thiago.macie...@intel.com
wrote:
On Monday 27 July 2015 21:50:15 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
Oh, but now you KNOW that it is a misspeled link to paypal. In real
situation you won't have
On Monday 27 July 2015 00:25:18 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
(I am not entirely sure why I haven't received at least a notification of
why this post has not appeared the first time I tried to send it, so here
we go again. Btw, it was Thiago Macieira himself who actually suggested I
mail this list)
My first instinct was suggesting MS to support Unicode in their console...
but then I tried to reproduce the described issue on OS X and succeeded.
qDebug() this is сообщение на русском;
which I'd expect to be treated like a byte array, gives me
this is сообщение на русском
though
qDebug()
(I am not entirely sure why I haven't received at least a notification of
why this post has not appeared the first time I tried to send it, so here
we go again. Btw, it was Thiago Macieira himself who actually suggested I
mail this list)
Hi! We (Russian Qt community) have a situation we could
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