Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Turunen Tuukka
On 05/02/15 09:31, Bo Thorsen b...@vikingsoft.eu wrote: Den 04-02-2015 kl. 15:56 skrev Olivier Goffart: On Wednesday 04 February 2015 09:23:12 Knoll Lars wrote: On 04/02/15 10:20, Olivier Goffart oliv...@woboq.com wrote: Also, is it not time to decide which platform are we going to stop

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Henry Skoglund
+1 for dropping VS2008. For those with thin wallets it's easier to upgrade nowadays anyway to the VS2013 Community Edition. /Rgrds Henry On 2015-02-05 08:31, Bo Thorsen wrote: Den 04-02-2015 kl. 15:56 skrev Olivier Goffart: On Wednesday 04 February 2015 09:23:12 Knoll Lars wrote: On 04/02/15

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Dr. Nico Wallmeier
Hello, please keep in mind that in the enterprise environment Windows CE / Windows Embedded Compact is still an important platform! Kind regards, Nico Wallmeier +1 for dropping VS2008. For those with thin wallets it's easier to upgrade nowadays anyway to the VS2013 Community Edition.

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Simon Hausmann
On Thursday 5. February 2015 23.08.03 Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: On 5 February 2015 at 16:44, Simon Hausmann simon.hausm...@theqtcompany.com wrote: On Thursday 5. February 2015 16.32.08 Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: On 3 February 2015 at 09:50, Hausmann Simon simon.hausm...@theqtcompany.com

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread André Somers
Knoll Lars schreef op 5-2-2015 om 16:28: But we don’t have much of a choice, if we want to deliver an up to date web engine. Perhaps it is time to ask the question then: do we want to do that? Do we really need to? It seems to me, that it isn't really possible to do. Not in a way that doesn't

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Guido Seifert
Did something like that happen before? Sounds strange to me to ship only parts of a framework. I imagine that this would also be a support nightmare... Qt5 is installed, but some other packages don't work or are not installable because they have a dependency to QtWebEngine. In a way it

[Development] Repeater not releasing space.

2015-02-05 Thread Yann Levreau
​Hi all, I wonder if you can help me for something. An easy thing to do in QML which is not working for me... I have a ColumnLayout an inside it, a RowLayout and a Repeater (within another RowLayout). It looks like this: ColumnLayout { RowLayout {} ColumnLayout {

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
Knoll Lars wrote: But we don’t really have a choice, as there is no upstream for Qt WebKit anymore. This implies that we’d have to fully develop that fork on our own to support is. That in turn requires a team far larger than what we have. So it’s simply not doable. The thing is, QtWebEngine

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Knoll Lars
On 05/02/15 15:19, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Knoll Lars wrote: But we don’t really have a choice, as there is no upstream for Qt WebKit anymore. This implies that we’d have to fully develop that fork on our own to support is. That in turn requires a team far larger than what

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 3 February 2015 at 09:50, Hausmann Simon simon.hausm...@theqtcompany.com wrote: Hi, Functionality wise, what type of class do you wrap with QScriptClass? Examples (you can guess from what project by looking at my footer): - Light data types (anything you see in databases and isn't mapping

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
Knoll Lars wrote: Yes, and I am sure, they have huge issues keeping up with the development of competing web technologies. I’ve been there and done that with first KHTML, then Qt WebKit for many years. The fact is that HTML5 these days is a huge pig, and supporting all of it using WebKit and

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Thursday 05 February 2015 08:48:20 Knoll Lars wrote: Yes, it’s not possible to drop 2008 currently without dropping Windows Embedded support. So not something we can do until we have a solution for Windows Embedded. Microsoft will not add support to an old Windows Embedded to a new VS. The

Re: [Development] Nominating Timur Pocheptsov as approver

2015-02-05 Thread Paul Olav Tvete
On Thursday 22. January 2015 06.52.56 Blasche Alexander wrote: I'd like to nominate Timur Pocheptsov for approver status. +1 from me too :) - Paul ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Simon Hausmann
On Thursday 5. February 2015 16.32.08 Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: On 3 February 2015 at 09:50, Hausmann Simon simon.hausm...@theqtcompany.com wrote: Hi, Functionality wise, what type of class do you wrap with QScriptClass? Examples (you can guess from what project by looking at my

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Andreas Holzammer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 04.02.2015 um 16:51 schrieb Cristian Adam: On 04.02.2015 10:23, Knoll Lars wrote: In principle I agree. The problem with 2008 is that this is currently the only compiler supporting Windows Embedded 7, so we can’t easily get rid of it. Dropping

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Thursday 05 February 2015 15:55:52 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: - Using V8 means we need to drop support for arm64 (aka AArch64), powerpc, powerpc64 and s390x. I understand this *might* be a minor side effect for the Qt project, but still important for us. I'm pretty sure

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Björn Breitmeyer
This would be the same as dropping the Windows Embedded Compact support. So its a clear no from my side. -- Björn Breitmeyer | bjoern.breitme...@kdab.com | Software Engineer KDAB (Deutschland) GmbHCo KG, a KDAB Group company Germany: +49-30-521325470, Sweden (HQ): +46-563-540090 KDAB - Qt

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Knoll Lars
Yes, it’s not possible to drop 2008 currently without dropping Windows Embedded support. So not something we can do until we have a solution for Windows Embedded. Cheers, Lars On 05/02/15 09:32, Björn Breitmeyer bjoern.breitme...@kdab.com wrote: This would be the same as dropping the Windows

[Development] New Qt5.4.1 snapshot available

2015-02-05 Thread Heikkinen Jani
Hi all, We have new snapshot available in Windows: http://download.qt.io/snapshots/qt/5.4/5.4.1/2015-02-05_107/ (http://download.qt.io/snapshots/qt/5.4/5.4.1/2015-02-05_108 coming with same content but hopefully with all installers) Linux:

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 5 February 2015 at 16:44, Simon Hausmann simon.hausm...@theqtcompany.com wrote: On Thursday 5. February 2015 16.32.08 Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: On 3 February 2015 at 09:50, Hausmann Simon simon.hausm...@theqtcompany.com wrote: Hi, Functionality wise, what type of class do you wrap with

Re: [Development] ministro not able to install qt libs anymore

2015-02-05 Thread maitai
Hello, Certificate is not yet repaired... 10 days? Can you imagine the trouble for someone who choosed to rely on ministro to deploy a commercial app? [mode=upsetMood] Possibly it might happen again anytime and we just have to live with it? Someone takes care it won't happen again? [/mode]

Re: [Development] Requesting reviewers for a QtNetwork feature - Support HTTP redirection

2015-02-05 Thread Mandeep Sandhu
Anyone? On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Mandeep Sandhu mandeepsandhu@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Sometime back I implemented a feature in QtNetwork - QNetworkAccessManager: Support HTTP redirection. https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/83058/ This review request has been pending in

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Thursday 05 February 2015 21:39:16 Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote: [snip] [0] https://www.debian.org/security/2015/dsa-3148 It would have been the same problem with WebKit. Neither Google nor Apple cares about supporting any build environment more than 1-2 years old. When we still was part

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Allan Sandfeld Jensen
On Friday 06 February 2015, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: On Thursday 05 February 2015 21:39:16 Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote: [snip] [0] https://www.debian.org/security/2015/dsa-3148 It would have been the same problem with WebKit. Neither Google nor Apple cares about

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Thursday 05 February 2015 14:33:13 Rutledge Shawn wrote: [snip] I agree. For every kind of documentation in every app which has a help system, and in other use cases where people use real web browsers without needing all the features, it would be great to have a lightweight alternative

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Thursday 05 February 2015 09:55:33 Andreas Holzammer wrote: Am 04.02.2015 um 16:51 schrieb Cristian Adam: On 04.02.2015 10:23, Knoll Lars wrote: In principle I agree. The problem with 2008 is that this is currently the only compiler supporting Windows Embedded 7, so we can’t easily get

Re: [Development] Reproducible Qt ; the purpose of QLibraryInfo::buildDate

2015-02-05 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Thursday 05 February 2015 11:07:29 Koehne Kai wrote: -Original Message- From: development-bounces+kai.koehne=theqtcompany.com@qt- project.org [mailto:development- bounces+kai.koehne=theqtcompany@qt-project.org] On Behalf Of Thiago Macieira Sent: Tuesday, February 03,

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Friday 06 February 2015 01:19:17 Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote: On Friday 06 February 2015, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: On Friday 06 February 2015 00:15:48 you wrote: About QtWebEngine, do you know what system libraries you have problems with it duplicating? I think we can

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
(Resending as I replied to Allan in private by mistake)) On Friday 06 February 2015 00:15:48 you wrote: [snip] But at least there we could just disable JIT, which is what we did. When we had V8 around (if I remember correctly it was used for QML, but my memory might be failing me) we

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Frank Hemer
On Tuesday 03 February 2015 11:59:11 André Somers wrote: Knoll Lars schreef op 3-2-2015 om 10:51: So Qt 5.6 can drop mingw support? There are currently no plans in dropping mingw. But webengine is currently not supported on that compiler. So I guess that does mean that it will no longer

Re: [Development] Qt3D and Qt 5.4.0

2015-02-05 Thread Sean Harmer
On Wednesday 04 Feb 2015 16:15:09 Federico J. Fernández wrote: Then, What is the latest Qt version that I can use to compile Qt3D? You need to build qtbase, qtsvg, qtimageformats, qtxmlpatterns and qt3d from the dev branch in git. Cheers, Sean Thanks. -- fede On Fri, Jan 23,

Re: [Development] Reproducible Qt ; the purpose of QLibraryInfo::buildDate

2015-02-05 Thread Koehne Kai
-Original Message- From: development-bounces+kai.koehne=theqtcompany.com@qt- project.org [mailto:development- bounces+kai.koehne=theqtcompany@qt-project.org] On Behalf Of Thiago Macieira Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 6:18 PM To: development@qt-project.org Subject: Re:

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
I'll try to summarize my POV on this issue in this mail: - I agree with Lars that HTML5 is a huge pig ;) - Bundling so many stuff in that package is definitely a non go for Debian. - I do also understand they require a competitive product. But on the same line I do also think the level of

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Andreas Holzammer
Am 05.02.2015 um 17:13 schrieb Thiago Macieira: On Thursday 05 February 2015 09:55:33 Andreas Holzammer wrote: Am 04.02.2015 um 16:51 schrieb Cristian Adam: On 04.02.2015 10:23, Knoll Lars wrote: In principle I agree. The problem with 2008 is that this is currently the only compiler

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Allan Sandfeld Jensen
On Thursday 05 February 2015, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: I'll try to summarize my POV on this issue in this mail: - I agree with Lars that HTML5 is a huge pig ;) - Bundling so many stuff in that package is definitely a non go for Debian. - I do also understand they