Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-24 Thread Ulf Hermann
On 10/24/18 3:51 PM, 黄其泽 wrote: > I think the committee should reserve a seat for women. It must be a > woman or a woman's dresser to be appointed. This must be written into > Code Of Conduct. This should not be codified in the QUIP. It would make the respective language much more complicated

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-24 Thread Ulf Hermann
> 1. The code of conduct or invitation to contribute says nothing about > "earning a right" The QUIP process follows the lazy consensus mechanism. See QUIP 2 and QUIP 3. Jason Hihn is not an Approver. Ulf ___ Development mailing list

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-24 Thread Konstantin Shegunov
I think you're over-engineering the whole thing and you don't drive the point of such a document home. My best suggestion is to simplify (heavily) the process and the phrasing. Firstly and most importantly drop the heavy and redundant wording, e.g. " ... pledge to making participation in our

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-24 Thread NIkolai Marchenko
Looking from outside: Qt has always seemed the community that just dpesn't need something like that to regulate itself. Explicit Code seems like an alien entity and ppl already trying to enforce "at least one female" rise all kinds of warning flags in my eyes. Personally, I only see the potential

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-24 Thread André Pönitz
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 05:42:59PM +0200, Aleix Pol wrote: > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 5:10 PM Jason H wrote: > > > > I am whole-heartedly against a Code of Conduct. [...] > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > regarding our earlier discussions on a possible Code of Conduct, here as > > > well as at the

[Development] Coin production update

2018-10-24 Thread Aapo Keskimölö
Good evening dear Qt Developers, Coin production has been updated on Wed Oct 20 21:09 EEST 2018. See attached change log for related patches. Ystävällisin terveisin / Kind regards, Aapo Keskimölö | Senior Software Engineer | Coin Software Lead aapo.keskim...@qt.io

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-24 Thread Jason H
Thank you Edward. I am doing that, but "out loud" if you will, on this group. I am asking questions and getting answers (you're the first to actually answer any of my questions). I am committed to having a free and inclusive community, but with Linux Kernel just having gone through this, and

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-24 Thread Edward Welbourne
Jason H (24 October 2018 17:09) > - Is "Sceintific racism" actual racism or just statistics? If it's racism, it's racism, however qualified. Extrapolation from populations to individuals misuses statistics. It isn't scientific, it just abuses tools lifted out of science. > I really want to know

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-24 Thread Jason H
Thank you Marco,   I've approached computers with a least-emotional approach.  But I beleive you when you said the highly emotional sometimes rude culture is driving people away. But I'll point out that we can be inclusive as we want to be. If we adopt a code of conduct, we then are are the ones

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-24 Thread Alexander Nassian
Arrogant mails like this from you are the reason why CoD are popping even up. Talking about the right of „playing with the grown ups“ but writing so much BS that would already violate the proposed CoD. > Am 24.10.2018 um 17:42 schrieb Aleix Pol : > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 5:10 PM Jason H

[Development] Does QGeoPositionInfoSource work from an Android service?

2018-10-24 Thread Denis Shienkov
Hi all, I tried to make it work from the Android service: #include #include #include #include Q_LOGGING_CATEGORY(APP, "bug.svc") int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { QAndroidService::setAttribute(Qt::AA_EnableHighDpiScaling); QAndroidService app(argc, argv);

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-24 Thread Jason H
1. The code of conduct or invitation to contribute says nothing about "earning a right" 2. What are considered qualifying "contributions"? I've been using Qt since 2004. I assure you I've had some influence, be it bug reports, participating in the mailing lists (like now.) 3. How many of these

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-24 Thread Marco Bubke
Hallo Jason > It was purely about lines of code. It was elegant and beautiful, and brutally > simple. This is aesthetics and if you would reflect about it with other you could find out that is very context sensitive. My experience in this area is that their are many people who prefer

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-24 Thread Jason H
Under the Code of Conduct, Can Aleix Pol receive discipline for his/her/their message? > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 11:42 AM > From: "Aleix Pol" > To: development > Subject: Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 5:10 PM Jason H wrote: > > > > I am

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-24 Thread Aleix Pol
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 5:10 PM Jason H wrote: > > I am whole-heartedly against a Code of Conduct. While well-intentioned, > anyone following the shit-show that is the Linux kernel code of conduct > fiasco, I also think would be against the code of conduct as well. > > Immediately after

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-24 Thread Jason H
I am whole-heartedly against a Code of Conduct. While well-intentioned, anyone following the shit-show that is the Linux kernel code of conduct fiasco, I also think would be against the code of conduct as well. Immediately after imposing the Code of Conduct, past tweets by contributors and the

Re: [Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-24 Thread 黄其泽
I think the committee should reserve a seat for women. It must be a woman or a woman's dresser to be appointed. This must be written into Code Of Conduct. Ulf Hermann 于2018年10月24日周三 下午3:17写道: > Hi, > > regarding our earlier discussions on a possible Code of Conduct, here as > well as at the

[Development] [Announce] Qt Creator 4.7.2 released

2018-10-24 Thread List for announcements regarding Qt releases and development
We are happy to announce the release of Qt Creator 4.7.2! https://blog.qt.io/blog/2018/10/24/qt-creator-4-7-2-released/ -- Eike Ziller Principal Software Engineer The Qt Company GmbH Rudower Chaussee 13 D-12489 Berlin eike.zil...@qt.io http://qt.io Geschäftsführer: Mika Pälsi, Juha Varelius,

[Development] [Announce] Qt Creator 4.7.2 released

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We are happy to announce the release of Qt Creator 4.7.2! https://blog.qt.io/blog/2018/10/24/qt-creator-4-7-2-released/ -- Eike Ziller Principal Software Engineer The Qt Company GmbH Rudower Chaussee 13 D-12489 Berlin eike.ziller at qt.io http://qt.io Geschäftsführer: Mika Pälsi,

[Development] QUIP 12: Code of Conduct

2018-10-24 Thread Ulf Hermann
Hi, regarding our earlier discussions on a possible Code of Conduct, here as well as at the Contributors' Summit 2017, I've pushed a QUIP with the necessary rules and definitions: https://codereview.qt-project.org/243623 Please review it. regards, Ulf