Re: [Development] Avoiding ads and/or Google for doc searches
My applogies for that. I do remember a time when the ads weren't there. So that's what contributed to my error. And a sincere thank you! Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 11:11 AM From: "Riitta-Leena Miettinen" To: "development@qt-project.org" , "Jason H" Subject: Re: Avoiding ads and/or Google for doc searches Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 17:22:13 +0200 From: Jason H To: Sze Howe Koh Cc: Qt development mailing list Subject: Re: [Development] Avoiding ads and/or Google for doc searches (was: Changes to Freenode's IRC) >And yes, I broke my own rule to not attribute to malice/greed what can be explained by stupidity/laziness. Hello Jason, Might I suggest an even better rule? Do not attribute any characteristics to people whose motivations, skills, and working conditions you know absolutely nothing about. You offhandedly managed to call all Qt Documentation Engineers stupid/lazy, when we in fact hated the adds and worked quite hard for a long time to have them turned off. That finally succeeded, and if you search for something now, you should not see any adds. You are welcome, Leena --- Leena Miettinen Sr. Documentation Engineer The Qt Company Erich-Thilo-Str. 10 12489 Berlin, Germany riitta-leena.mietti...@qt.io www.qt.io Geschäftsführer: Mika Pälsi, Juha Varelius, Jouni Lintunen Sitz der Gesellschaft: Berlin, Registergericht: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 144331 B ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] Avoiding ads and/or Google for doc searches
Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 17:22:13 +0200 From: Jason H To: Sze Howe Koh Cc: Qt development mailing list Subject: Re: [Development] Avoiding ads and/or Google for doc searches (was: Changes to Freenode's IRC) >And yes, I broke my own rule to not attribute to malice/greed what can be >explained by stupidity/laziness. Hello Jason, Might I suggest an even better rule? Do not attribute any characteristics to people whose motivations, skills, and working conditions you know absolutely nothing about. You offhandedly managed to call all Qt Documentation Engineers stupid/lazy, when we in fact hated the adds and worked quite hard for a long time to have them turned off. That finally succeeded, and if you search for something now, you should not see any adds. You are welcome, Leena --- Leena Miettinen Sr. Documentation Engineer The Qt Company Erich-Thilo-Str. 10 12489 Berlin, Germany riitta-leena.mietti...@qt.io<mailto:firstname.lastn...@qt.io> www.qt.io<https://www.qt.io> Geschäftsführer: Mika Pälsi, Juha Varelius, Jouni Lintunen Sitz der Gesellschaft: Berlin, Registergericht: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 144331 B [cid:image001.png@01D75189.0D2A3BC0]<https://www.qt.io/> [cid:image002.png@01D75189.0D2A3BC0]<https://www.facebook.com/qt/> [cid:image003.png@01D75189.0D2A3BC0]<https://twitter.com/qtproject> [cid:image004.png@01D75189.0D2A3BC0]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-qt-company/> [cid:image005.png@01D75189.0D2A3BC0]<https://www.youtube.com/QtStudios> ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] Avoiding ads and/or Google for doc searches (was: Changes to Freenode's IRC)
On Thu, 20 May 2021 at 01:40, Kai Köhne mailto:kai.koe...@qt.io]> wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > From: Development > > mailto:development-boun...@qt-project.org]> > > On Behalf Of Jason H > > Sent: Wednesday, 19 May 2021 17:26 > > To: giuseppe.dang...@kdab.com[mailto:giuseppe.dang...@kdab.com] > > Cc: development@qt-project.org[mailto:development@qt-project.org] > > Subject: Re: [Development] Changes to Freenode's IRC > > > > * Before you laugh, and say that is crazy, consider that the online Qt Docs > > search results now have ads: > > https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/search-results.html?q=camera[https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/search-results.html?q=camera] > > shows 4 ads for me. And I don't know of any other toolkit who serves > > their documentation with ads. Take for example mozdev: > > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/search?q=camera[https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/search?q=camera] > > shows 0 ads. React, 0 ads. I figure it's only a matter of time until the > > actual documentation pages have ads too. (There may be good reasons for > > ads, but it's still not a good look.) > > It's true that the embedded search on doc.qt.io[http://doc.qt.io] sometimes > shows ads. But it's not the result of evil TQtC making heaps of money with > ads. It's just a side-effect of using google for embedded search, and has > been like that since years (if not decades) ... We have actually recently > started to look into it (again), see > https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTWEBSITE-723[https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTWEBSITE-723] > if you want to get updates. The browser extension is cool, thank you. And yes, I broke my own rule to not attribute to malice/greed what can be explained by stupidity/laziness. I hadn't planned to mention it but given the nature of the Freenode split over user data privacy, I figured that the eyesore concern was secondary to the ad tracking/privacy concerns, and that may be of interest to those interested in switching from Freenode. ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/development
[Development] Avoiding ads and/or Google for doc searches (was: Changes to Freenode's IRC)
On Thu, 20 May 2021 at 01:40, Kai Köhne wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > From: Development On Behalf Of Jason H > > Sent: Wednesday, 19 May 2021 17:26 > > To: giuseppe.dang...@kdab.com > > Cc: development@qt-project.org > > Subject: Re: [Development] Changes to Freenode's IRC > > > > * Before you laugh, and say that is crazy, consider that the online Qt Docs search results now have ads: https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/search-results.html?q=camera shows 4 ads for me. And I don't know of any other toolkit who serves their documentation with ads. Take for example mozdev: > > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/search?q=camera shows 0 ads. React, 0 ads. I figure it's only a matter of time until the actual documentation pages have ads too. (There may be good reasons for ads, but it's still not a good look.) > > It's true that the embedded search on doc.qt.io sometimes shows ads. But it's not the result of evil TQtC making heaps of money with ads. It's just a side-effect of using google for embedded search, and has been like that since years (if not decades) ... We have actually recently started to look into it (again), see https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTWEBSITE-723 if you want to get updates. For those who want to avoid ads and/or the Google search engine, consider the Qt Doc Search browser extension. Features: * Initiate searches from any browser tab; no need to navigate to doc.qt.io first * Search a specific version of Qt or a specific tool (Qt Creator, Qt Design Studio, GammaRay, etc.) * Choose your search engine (default: DuckDuckGo) User links: * (Chrome/Edge) https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/qt-doc-search/gfigdpnkjnilcielpnmfmdnnbloabjoh * (Firefox) https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/qt-documentation-search/ Other links: * (Original forum post) https://forum.qt.io/topic/35616/web-browser-extension-for-improved-doc-searches * (Source code, public domain) https://github.com/JKSH/qt-doc-search/ Regards, Sze-Howe ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/development
