Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-03-18 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Wednesday 18 March 2015 07:44:12 Bo Thorsen wrote: Den 17-03-2015 kl. 23:45 skrev Thiago Macieira: We promised not to break source or binary compatibility. Where are we doing that? Removing classes is as binary incompatible as you can possibly make it. They're not removed. They

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-03-18 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Wednesday 18 March 2015 08:39:28 Florian Bruhin wrote: But if I understood correctly, the consensus here seems to be to deprecate it in Qt 5.5 and remove it with Qt 6, which sounds much more reasonable to me. That's not the consensus. People panicked when they read Tuukka's blog saying

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-03-18 Thread Allan Sandfeld Jensen
On Wednesday 18 March 2015, Bo Thorsen wrote: Den 17-03-2015 kl. 23:45 skrev Thiago Macieira: On Tuesday 17 March 2015 17:14:38 Jan Kundrát wrote: On Tuesday, 3 February 2015 08:33:46 CET, Knoll Lars wrote: * Qt WebKit While I understand the reasons on why you want to remove this one,

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-03-18 Thread Simon Hausmann
On Tuesday 17. March 2015 15.04.19 Corentin Jabot wrote: Regarding QJSEngine, some things are unclear to me. Let's say I have a QObject-derived class. how do I create an instance of that class from a script ? c++ : class Foo : public QObject { Q_OBJECT }; js : var foo = new Foo()

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-03-18 Thread Corentin Jabot
2015-03-18 11:00 GMT+01:00 Simon Hausmann simon.hausm...@theqtcompany.com: On Tuesday 17. March 2015 15.04.19 Corentin Jabot wrote: Regarding QJSEngine, some things are unclear to me. Let's say I have a QObject-derived class. how do I create an instance of that class from a script ?

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-03-18 Thread Knoll Lars
On 18/03/15 07:44, Bo Thorsen b...@vikingsoft.eu wrote: Den 17-03-2015 kl. 23:45 skrev Thiago Macieira: On Tuesday 17 March 2015 17:14:38 Jan Kundrát wrote: On Tuesday, 3 February 2015 08:33:46 CET, Knoll Lars wrote: * Qt WebKit While I understand the reasons on why you want to remove this

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-03-18 Thread Bo Thorsen
Den 18-03-2015 kl. 08:31 skrev Knoll Lars: On 18/03/15 07:44, Bo Thorsen b...@vikingsoft.eu wrote: Den 17-03-2015 kl. 23:45 skrev Thiago Macieira: On Tuesday 17 March 2015 17:14:38 Jan Kundrát wrote: On Tuesday, 3 February 2015 08:33:46 CET, Knoll Lars wrote: * Qt WebKit While I understand

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-03-18 Thread Knoll Lars
On 18/03/15 08:35, Bo Thorsen b...@vikingsoft.eu wrote: Den 18-03-2015 kl. 08:31 skrev Knoll Lars: On 18/03/15 07:44, Bo Thorsen b...@vikingsoft.eu wrote: Den 17-03-2015 kl. 23:45 skrev Thiago Macieira: On Tuesday 17 March 2015 17:14:38 Jan Kundrát wrote: On Tuesday, 3 February 2015 08:33:46

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-03-18 Thread Florian Bruhin
* Knoll Lars lars.kn...@theqtcompany.com [2015-03-18 07:31:00 +]: On 18/03/15 07:44, Bo Thorsen b...@vikingsoft.eu wrote: Den 17-03-2015 kl. 23:45 skrev Thiago Macieira: On Tuesday 17 March 2015 17:14:38 Jan Kundrát wrote: On Tuesday, 3 February 2015 08:33:46 CET, Knoll Lars wrote: *

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-03-18 Thread Bo Thorsen
Den 17-03-2015 kl. 23:45 skrev Thiago Macieira: On Tuesday 17 March 2015 17:14:38 Jan Kundrát wrote: On Tuesday, 3 February 2015 08:33:46 CET, Knoll Lars wrote: * Qt WebKit While I understand the reasons on why you want to remove this one, I think that this goes against the promise of

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-03-17 Thread Bernhard
Gesendet: Dienstag, 3. Februar 2015 08:34 An: development@qt-project.org Betreff: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5 Hi, I’d like to mark a few modules as deprecated with 5.5, and most likely remove them from the binary packages with 5.6. These modules are: * Qt WebKit * Qt

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-03-17 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Tuesday 17 March 2015 17:14:38 Jan Kundrát wrote: On Tuesday, 3 February 2015 08:33:46 CET, Knoll Lars wrote: * Qt WebKit While I understand the reasons on why you want to remove this one, I think that this goes against the promise of compatibility at [1]: Qt essentials define the

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-03-17 Thread Corentin Jabot
Regarding QJSEngine, some things are unclear to me. Let's say I have a QObject-derived class. how do I create an instance of that class from a script ? c++ : class Foo : public QObject { Q_OBJECT }; js : var foo = new Foo() How do I call a c++ function from a js script ? That use case

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-03-17 Thread Jan Kundrát
On Tuesday, 3 February 2015 08:33:46 CET, Knoll Lars wrote: * Qt WebKit While I understand the reasons on why you want to remove this one, I think that this goes against the promise of compatibility at [1]: Qt essentials define the foundation of Qt on all platforms. They are available on all

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-09 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Monday 09 February 2015 22:52:34 Kevin Kofler wrote: Guido Seifert wrote: Did something like that happen before? Yes, RHEL has never shipped QtWebKit, as far as I know because of support (especially with security updates) concerns. (They're likely to also not ship QtWebEngine, but that

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-09 Thread Björn Breitmeyer
Well start with the easiest understanable reasons. People come from old platforms whith old applications and they don't know what their upcoming hardware platforms will be, so they decide why not go to Qt first and then decide, which platform is usable for us. Thats a pretty common theme and if

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
Guido Seifert wrote: Did something like that happen before? Yes, RHEL has never shipped QtWebKit, as far as I know because of support (especially with security updates) concerns. (They're likely to also not ship QtWebEngine, but that will be a topic for RHEL 8. QtWebEngine did not exist yet

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: The real answer is simple: all of them. We do our best to avoid embedded libraries (and yes, we sometimes fail to do it, and that's a bug for us). +1, same here (Fedora). If I where to start at some place I would choose V8 and ffmpeg, but the real

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-08 Thread Robert Knight
...and you're keeping up to date with all the security patches to Qt, Chromium, etc.? If not, your better experience is leaving your application's users vulnerable. We have the capability to turn around an update quickly if necessary and try to use system libraries where possible, especially

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-08 Thread Dr. Nico Wallmeier
please keep in mind that in the enterprise environment Windows CE / Windows Embedded Compact is still an important platform! I understand that, but to which point? Mac OS X 10.6 was also an important platform used by about 10% of the mac users. Yet, we decided to drop support for it.

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-08 Thread Giuseppe D'Angelo
Il 08/02/2015 17:58, Thiago Macieira ha scritto: So we come back to this question again and again: if you can't upgrade the OS and upgrade the compiler, why do you want to upgrade Qt? Because people want to use the latest features / bugfixes for developing their product, and yet they need to

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-08 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Sunday 08 February 2015 19:15:18 Giuseppe D'Angelo wrote: Il 08/02/2015 17:58, Thiago Macieira ha scritto: So we come back to this question again and again: if you can't upgrade the OS and upgrade the compiler, why do you want to upgrade Qt? Because people want to use the latest

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-08 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Sunday 08 February 2015 13:41:59 Dr. Nico Wallmeier wrote: In the enterprise environment these devices are shipped with a specific Windows CE / Embedded Compact and stay on this version up to EOL. Normally it is not possible update these units to newer OS versions (only patch updates may be

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-08 Thread Olivier Goffart
On Sunday 08 February 2015 19:15:18 Giuseppe D'Angelo wrote: Il 08/02/2015 17:58, Thiago Macieira ha scritto: So we come back to this question again and again: if you can't upgrade the OS and upgrade the compiler, why do you want to upgrade Qt? Because people want to use the latest

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-08 Thread Gunnar Roth
Am 08.02.2015 um 21:25 schrieb Olivier Goffart oliv...@woboq.com: On Sunday 08 February 2015 19:15:18 Giuseppe D'Angelo wrote: Il 08/02/2015 17:58, Thiago Macieira ha scritto: So we come back to this question again and again: if you can't upgrade the OS and upgrade the compiler, why do you

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-08 Thread Bo Thorsen
Den 08-02-2015 kl. 21:25 skrev Olivier Goffart: On Sunday 08 February 2015 19:15:18 Giuseppe D'Angelo wrote: Il 08/02/2015 17:58, Thiago Macieira ha scritto: So we come back to this question again and again: if you can't upgrade the OS and upgrade the compiler, why do you want to upgrade Qt?

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-06 Thread Alejandro Exojo
El Friday 06 February 2015, André Somers escribió: All the while Qt is spending effort to catch up, deprecating compilers and platforms because they can't take the latest Javascript engine to it, users are hapily using browers like Firefox and Chrome. Perhaps it is time to conclude that Qt

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-06 Thread Simon Hausmann
On Friday 6. February 2015 08.42.53 André Somers wrote: Knoll Lars schreef op 5-2-2015 om 16:28: But we don’t have much of a choice, if we want to deliver an up to date web engine. Perhaps it is time to ask the question then: do we want to do that? Do we really need to? It seems to me,

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-06 Thread Ziller Eike
On Feb 6, 2015, at 09:21, Simon Hausmann simon.hausm...@theqtcompany.com wrote: On Friday 6. February 2015 08.42.53 André Somers wrote: Knoll Lars schreef op 5-2-2015 om 16:28: But we don’t have much of a choice, if we want to deliver an up to date web engine. Perhaps it is time to

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-06 Thread Knoll Lars
On 06/02/15 08:42, André Somers an...@familiesomers.nl wrote: Knoll Lars schreef op 5-2-2015 om 16:28: But we don’t have much of a choice, if we want to deliver an up to date web engine. Perhaps it is time to ask the question then: do we want to do that? Do we really need to? If you ask me as

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-06 Thread Sorvig Morten
On 06 Feb 2015, at 09:32, Ziller Eike eike.zil...@theqtcompany.com wrote: What simpler alternative do you have in mind? One possibility that would cover the use case of “show some simple styled html without javascript” case (e.g. documentation browsers) would be to give QTextBrowser

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-06 Thread Bernhard
=bernhard-lindner.de@qt- project.org] Im Auftrag von André Somers Gesendet: Freitag, 6. Februar 2015 08:43 An: development@qt-project.org Betreff: Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5 Knoll Lars schreef op 5-2-2015 om 16:28: But we don’t have much of a choice, if we want to deliver an up

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-06 Thread Robert Knight
It is just not practical to ship a second copy of dozens of system libraries, all built as part of QtWebEngine. This is a nightmare in terms of disk space, RAM use, potential for symbol conflicts and delivery of security updates. These are all valid concerns but ultimately of secondary

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-06 Thread Matthew Woehlke
On 2015-02-06 09:22, Robert Knight wrote: It is just not practical to ship a second copy of dozens of system libraries, all built as part of QtWebEngine. This is a nightmare in terms of disk space, RAM use, potential for symbol conflicts and delivery of security updates. These are all valid

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Turunen Tuukka
On 05/02/15 09:31, Bo Thorsen b...@vikingsoft.eu wrote: Den 04-02-2015 kl. 15:56 skrev Olivier Goffart: On Wednesday 04 February 2015 09:23:12 Knoll Lars wrote: On 04/02/15 10:20, Olivier Goffart oliv...@woboq.com wrote: Also, is it not time to decide which platform are we going to stop

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Henry Skoglund
+1 for dropping VS2008. For those with thin wallets it's easier to upgrade nowadays anyway to the VS2013 Community Edition. /Rgrds Henry On 2015-02-05 08:31, Bo Thorsen wrote: Den 04-02-2015 kl. 15:56 skrev Olivier Goffart: On Wednesday 04 February 2015 09:23:12 Knoll Lars wrote: On 04/02/15

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Dr. Nico Wallmeier
Hello, please keep in mind that in the enterprise environment Windows CE / Windows Embedded Compact is still an important platform! Kind regards, Nico Wallmeier +1 for dropping VS2008. For those with thin wallets it's easier to upgrade nowadays anyway to the VS2013 Community Edition.

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Simon Hausmann
On Thursday 5. February 2015 23.08.03 Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: On 5 February 2015 at 16:44, Simon Hausmann simon.hausm...@theqtcompany.com wrote: On Thursday 5. February 2015 16.32.08 Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: On 3 February 2015 at 09:50, Hausmann Simon simon.hausm...@theqtcompany.com

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread André Somers
Knoll Lars schreef op 5-2-2015 om 16:28: But we don’t have much of a choice, if we want to deliver an up to date web engine. Perhaps it is time to ask the question then: do we want to do that? Do we really need to? It seems to me, that it isn't really possible to do. Not in a way that doesn't

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Guido Seifert
Did something like that happen before? Sounds strange to me to ship only parts of a framework. I imagine that this would also be a support nightmare... Qt5 is installed, but some other packages don't work or are not installable because they have a dependency to QtWebEngine. In a way it

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
Knoll Lars wrote: But we don’t really have a choice, as there is no upstream for Qt WebKit anymore. This implies that we’d have to fully develop that fork on our own to support is. That in turn requires a team far larger than what we have. So it’s simply not doable. The thing is, QtWebEngine

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Knoll Lars
On 05/02/15 15:19, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Knoll Lars wrote: But we don’t really have a choice, as there is no upstream for Qt WebKit anymore. This implies that we’d have to fully develop that fork on our own to support is. That in turn requires a team far larger than what

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
, February 3, 2015 09:36 To: Knoll Lars Cc: development@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5 On 3 February 2015 at 09:29, Knoll Lars lars.kn...@theqtcompany.com wrote: On 03/02/15 09:24, Jaroslaw Staniek stan...@kde.org wrote: On 3 February 2015 at 08:33, Knoll

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
Knoll Lars wrote: Yes, and I am sure, they have huge issues keeping up with the development of competing web technologies. I’ve been there and done that with first KHTML, then Qt WebKit for many years. The fact is that HTML5 these days is a huge pig, and supporting all of it using WebKit and

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Thursday 05 February 2015 08:48:20 Knoll Lars wrote: Yes, it’s not possible to drop 2008 currently without dropping Windows Embedded support. So not something we can do until we have a solution for Windows Embedded. Microsoft will not add support to an old Windows Embedded to a new VS. The

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Simon Hausmann
On Thursday 5. February 2015 16.32.08 Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: On 3 February 2015 at 09:50, Hausmann Simon simon.hausm...@theqtcompany.com wrote: Hi, Functionality wise, what type of class do you wrap with QScriptClass? Examples (you can guess from what project by looking at my

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Andreas Holzammer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 04.02.2015 um 16:51 schrieb Cristian Adam: On 04.02.2015 10:23, Knoll Lars wrote: In principle I agree. The problem with 2008 is that this is currently the only compiler supporting Windows Embedded 7, so we can’t easily get rid of it. Dropping

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Thursday 05 February 2015 15:55:52 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: - Using V8 means we need to drop support for arm64 (aka AArch64), powerpc, powerpc64 and s390x. I understand this *might* be a minor side effect for the Qt project, but still important for us. I'm pretty sure

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Björn Breitmeyer
This would be the same as dropping the Windows Embedded Compact support. So its a clear no from my side. -- Björn Breitmeyer | bjoern.breitme...@kdab.com | Software Engineer KDAB (Deutschland) GmbHCo KG, a KDAB Group company Germany: +49-30-521325470, Sweden (HQ): +46-563-540090 KDAB - Qt

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Knoll Lars
Yes, it’s not possible to drop 2008 currently without dropping Windows Embedded support. So not something we can do until we have a solution for Windows Embedded. Cheers, Lars On 05/02/15 09:32, Björn Breitmeyer bjoern.breitme...@kdab.com wrote: This would be the same as dropping the Windows

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 5 February 2015 at 16:44, Simon Hausmann simon.hausm...@theqtcompany.com wrote: On Thursday 5. February 2015 16.32.08 Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: On 3 February 2015 at 09:50, Hausmann Simon simon.hausm...@theqtcompany.com wrote: Hi, Functionality wise, what type of class do you wrap with

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Thursday 05 February 2015 21:39:16 Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote: [snip] [0] https://www.debian.org/security/2015/dsa-3148 It would have been the same problem with WebKit. Neither Google nor Apple cares about supporting any build environment more than 1-2 years old. When we still was part

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Allan Sandfeld Jensen
On Friday 06 February 2015, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: On Thursday 05 February 2015 21:39:16 Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote: [snip] [0] https://www.debian.org/security/2015/dsa-3148 It would have been the same problem with WebKit. Neither Google nor Apple cares about

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Thursday 05 February 2015 14:33:13 Rutledge Shawn wrote: [snip] I agree. For every kind of documentation in every app which has a help system, and in other use cases where people use real web browsers without needing all the features, it would be great to have a lightweight alternative

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Thursday 05 February 2015 09:55:33 Andreas Holzammer wrote: Am 04.02.2015 um 16:51 schrieb Cristian Adam: On 04.02.2015 10:23, Knoll Lars wrote: In principle I agree. The problem with 2008 is that this is currently the only compiler supporting Windows Embedded 7, so we can’t easily get

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Friday 06 February 2015 01:19:17 Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote: On Friday 06 February 2015, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: On Friday 06 February 2015 00:15:48 you wrote: About QtWebEngine, do you know what system libraries you have problems with it duplicating? I think we can

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
(Resending as I replied to Allan in private by mistake)) On Friday 06 February 2015 00:15:48 you wrote: [snip] But at least there we could just disable JIT, which is what we did. When we had V8 around (if I remember correctly it was used for QML, but my memory might be failing me) we

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Frank Hemer
On Tuesday 03 February 2015 11:59:11 André Somers wrote: Knoll Lars schreef op 3-2-2015 om 10:51: So Qt 5.6 can drop mingw support? There are currently no plans in dropping mingw. But webengine is currently not supported on that compiler. So I guess that does mean that it will no longer

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
I'll try to summarize my POV on this issue in this mail: - I agree with Lars that HTML5 is a huge pig ;) - Bundling so many stuff in that package is definitely a non go for Debian. - I do also understand they require a competitive product. But on the same line I do also think the level of

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Andreas Holzammer
Am 05.02.2015 um 17:13 schrieb Thiago Macieira: On Thursday 05 February 2015 09:55:33 Andreas Holzammer wrote: Am 04.02.2015 um 16:51 schrieb Cristian Adam: On 04.02.2015 10:23, Knoll Lars wrote: In principle I agree. The problem with 2008 is that this is currently the only compiler

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-05 Thread Allan Sandfeld Jensen
On Thursday 05 February 2015, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: I'll try to summarize my POV on this issue in this mail: - I agree with Lars that HTML5 is a huge pig ;) - Bundling so many stuff in that package is definitely a non go for Debian. - I do also understand they

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-04 Thread Olivier Goffart
On Tuesday 03 February 2015 07:33:46 Knoll Lars wrote: Hi, I’d like to mark a few modules as deprecated with 5.5, and most likely remove them from the binary packages with 5.6. These modules are: * Qt WebKit * Qt Declarative (Qt Quick 1) * Qt Script All of these modules are by now a

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-04 Thread Knoll Lars
On 04/02/15 10:20, Olivier Goffart oliv...@woboq.com wrote: On Tuesday 03 February 2015 07:33:46 Knoll Lars wrote: Hi, I’d like to mark a few modules as deprecated with 5.5, and most likely remove them from the binary packages with 5.6. These modules are: * Qt WebKit * Qt Declarative (Qt

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-04 Thread Knoll Lars
On 03/02/15 23:26, Thiago Macieira thiago.macie...@intel.com wrote: On Tuesday 03 February 2015 20:14:42 Knoll Lars wrote: Yes, making the Qt WebView module work on all desktop platforms could be a possible solution. I think the consensus here is that we need some more work on Qt WebView /

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-04 Thread Cristian Adam
On 04.02.2015 10:23, Knoll Lars wrote: In principle I agree. The problem with 2008 is that this is currently the only compiler supporting Windows Embedded 7, so we can’t easily get rid of it. Dropping gcc 4.4 is afaik not a big problem. QNX 6.5.0 has GCC 4.4.2. I don't know how important QNX

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-04 Thread Bo Thorsen
Den 04-02-2015 kl. 15:56 skrev Olivier Goffart: On Wednesday 04 February 2015 09:23:12 Knoll Lars wrote: On 04/02/15 10:20, Olivier Goffart oliv...@woboq.com wrote: Also, is it not time to decide which platform are we going to stop supporting in Qt 5.6? For example, if we were to decide to

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-04 Thread Joseph Crowell
It's relatively simple to compile x264 with visual studio 2013+. I was just reading about it. On 4 Feb 2015 11:52 pm, Guido Seifert warg...@gmx.de wrote: If you don't have a choice, you don't have a choice, but just saying: In one of my projects I needed the x264 libs:

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-04 Thread Guido Seifert
If you don't have a choice, you don't have a choice, but just saying: In one of my projects I needed the x264 libs: http://www.videolan.org/developers/x264.html and the webkit. I was unable to compile x264 with MSVC. Dropping webkit would leave me in the inconvenient situation that either I

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-04 Thread Olivier Goffart
On Wednesday 04 February 2015 09:23:12 Knoll Lars wrote: On 04/02/15 10:20, Olivier Goffart oliv...@woboq.com wrote: Also, is it not time to decide which platform are we going to stop supporting in Qt 5.6? For example, if we were to decide to start using some of the C++11, we should drop

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-03 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 3 February 2015 at 08:33, Knoll Lars lars.kn...@theqtcompany.com wrote: Hi, I’d like to mark a few modules as deprecated with 5.5, and most likely remove them from the binary packages with 5.6. These modules are: * Qt WebKit * Qt Declarative (Qt Quick 1) * Qt Script All of these

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-03 Thread Knoll Lars
On 03/02/15 09:24, Jaroslaw Staniek stan...@kde.org wrote: On 3 February 2015 at 08:33, Knoll Lars lars.kn...@theqtcompany.com wrote: Hi, I’d like to mark a few modules as deprecated with 5.5, and most likely remove them from the binary packages with 5.6. These modules are: * Qt WebKit *

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-03 Thread Alexey Pavlov
2015-02-03 10:33 GMT+03:00 Knoll Lars lars.kn...@theqtcompany.com: Hi, I’d like to mark a few modules as deprecated with 5.5, and most likely remove them from the binary packages with 5.6. These modules are: * Qt WebKit * Qt Declarative (Qt Quick 1) * Qt Script All of these modules are

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-03 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 3 February 2015 at 09:29, Knoll Lars lars.kn...@theqtcompany.com wrote: On 03/02/15 09:24, Jaroslaw Staniek stan...@kde.org wrote: On 3 February 2015 at 08:33, Knoll Lars lars.kn...@theqtcompany.com wrote: Hi, I’d like to mark a few modules as deprecated with 5.5, and most likely remove

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-03 Thread Hausmann Simon
Hi, Functionality wise, what type of class do you wrap with QScriptClass? Simon Original Message From: Jaroslaw Staniek Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 09:36 To: Knoll Lars Cc: development@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5 On 3 February 2015 at 09:29

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-03 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Tuesday 03 February 2015 20:14:42 Knoll Lars wrote: Yes, making the Qt WebView module work on all desktop platforms could be a possible solution. I think the consensus here is that we need some more work on Qt WebView / webengine before we can drop QtWebKit from the binaries. That said,

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-03 Thread André Pönitz
On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 07:47:14AM +, Ziller Eike wrote: On Feb 3, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Knoll Lars lars.kn...@theqtcompany.com wrote: Hi, I’d like to mark a few modules as deprecated with 5.5, and most likely remove them from the binary packages with 5.6. These modules are: *

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-03 Thread Knoll Lars
On 03/02/15 20:25, André Pönitz apoen...@t-online.de wrote: On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 07:47:14AM +, Ziller Eike wrote: On Feb 3, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Knoll Lars lars.kn...@theqtcompany.com wrote: Hi, I’d like to mark a few modules as deprecated with 5.5, and most likely remove them

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-03 Thread André Somers
Knoll Lars schreef op 3-2-2015 om 10:51: So Qt 5.6 can drop mingw support? There are currently no plans in dropping mingw. But webengine is currently not supported on that compiler. So I guess that does mean that it will no longer be Tier 1 then. André

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-03 Thread Knoll Lars
On 03/02/15 10:08, Alexey Pavlov alex...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-02-03 11:49 GMT+03:00 Knoll Lars lars.kn...@theqtcompany.com: On 03/02/15 09:35, Alexey Pavlov alex...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-02-03 10:33 GMT+03:00 Knoll Lars lars.kn...@theqtcompany.com: Hi, I’d like to mark a few modules as

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-03 Thread Alexey Pavlov
2015-02-03 11:49 GMT+03:00 Knoll Lars lars.kn...@theqtcompany.com: On 03/02/15 09:35, Alexey Pavlov alex...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-02-03 10:33 GMT+03:00 Knoll Lars lars.kn...@theqtcompany.com: Hi, I’d like to mark a few modules as deprecated with 5.5, and most likely remove them from

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-02 Thread Ziller Eike
On Feb 3, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Knoll Lars lars.kn...@theqtcompany.com wrote: Hi, I’d like to mark a few modules as deprecated with 5.5, and most likely remove them from the binary packages with 5.6. These modules are: * Qt WebKit As long as WebEngine is not (yet?) a “full replacement of

Re: [Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-02 Thread Knoll Lars
On 03/02/15 08:47, Ziller Eike eike.zil...@theqtcompany.com wrote: On Feb 3, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Knoll Lars lars.kn...@theqtcompany.com wrote: Hi, I’d like to mark a few modules as deprecated with 5.5, and most likely remove them from the binary packages with 5.6. These modules are: *

[Development] Deprecating modules with 5.5

2015-02-02 Thread Knoll Lars
Hi, I’d like to mark a few modules as deprecated with 5.5, and most likely remove them from the binary packages with 5.6. These modules are: * Qt WebKit * Qt Declarative (Qt Quick 1) * Qt Script All of these modules are by now a couple of years old, don’t receive updates above the bare minimum