Re: Udisks and/or polkit problems

2012-05-08 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Tue, 8 May 2012 22:16:19 +0100 Kevin Chadwick wrote: > >>before people wonder any more whether redhat want Linux to be more > >>difficult to use and > >>support for financial reasons. > > I never said RedHat did anything. I simply regurgitated sentiments that > are out there, that I believe

Re: Udisks and/or polkit problems

2012-05-08 Thread Kevin Chadwick
A fellow archer and someone who has actually been helpful to me in the past seems to think I accused redhat purposefully of making things difficult for users. >>before people wonder any more whether redhat want Linux to be more difficult >>to use and >>support for financial reasons. I never sai

Re: Udisks and/or polkit problems

2012-05-08 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Tue, 8 May 2012 13:06:23 -0400 David Zeuthen wrote: I've sent this seperately in a hope that you might not ignore it. 1./ Do you think installing udisks2 could have had anything to do with the potential nautilus bug or intended change. i.e. only flashing up rather than showing my mount points

Re: Udisks and/or polkit problems

2012-05-08 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Tue, 8 May 2012 13:06:23 -0400 David Zeuthen wrote: >The fact that you bring companies into >the mix indicates a poor understanding of how open source communities >work. Companies. I was under the impression red hat funded policykit and polkit directly. I wasn't the person to make the link be

Re: Udisks and/or polkit problems

2012-05-08 Thread David Zeuthen
Hey, If you think I'm speaking on behalf of Red Hat on this mailing list, then you are badly mistaken. The fact that you bring companies into the mix indicates a poor understanding of how open source communities work. The fact that I do work for Red Hat really has nothing to do with this. The prob

Re: Udisks and/or polkit problems

2012-05-08 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Tue, 8 May 2012 11:10:26 -0400 David Zeuthen wrote: > > Better than factually wrong documentation and design. You didn't want > > to answer any of the valid issues in the first place as others have > > found. > > As I said in the initial mail to you, your so-called "valid issues" > were eith

Re: Udisks and/or polkit problems

2012-05-08 Thread David Zeuthen
Hey, On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:16 AM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > Better than factually wrong documentation and design. You didn't want > to answer any of the valid issues in the first place as others have > found. As I said in the initial mail to you, your so-called "valid issues" were either incomp

Re: Udisks and/or polkit problems

2012-05-08 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Tue, 8 May 2012 10:03:32 -0400 David Zeuthen wrote: > factually wrong rants Better than factually wrong documentation and design. You didn't want to answer any of the valid issues in the first place as others have found. >> Well, if you have such needs, then perhaps you shouldn't be mounting

Re: Udisks and/or polkit problems

2012-05-08 Thread David Zeuthen
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 5:45 AM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > p.s. polkit's configuration system (multiple locations, lack of > example, etc.) and documentation is an absolute mess and an embarassment > to unix and also includes incorrect information about sudo, perhaps > you know the people to shake up

Re: Udisks and/or polkit problems

2012-05-08 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Mon, 7 May 2012 20:57:19 -0400 David Zeuthen wrote: > > That would still allow the user davidz to unmount /boot / etc.. > > Sure - there's no way for udisks to tell them apart. > There is fstab, there is udev which provides all that info (removable or not) and the kernel, there's also the

Re: Udisks and/or polkit problems

2012-05-07 Thread David Zeuthen
Hi, On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > That would still allow the user davidz to unmount /boot / etc.. Sure - there's no way for udisks to tell them apart. > That's not something that fits into my security policy? Well, if you have such needs, then perhaps you shouldn't be

Re: Udisks and/or polkit problems

2012-05-07 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Mon, 7 May 2012 17:57:30 -0400 David Zeuthen wrote: > after of course putting in your own username in the Identity key. > That's all there is to it. > That would still allow the user davidz to unmount /boot / etc.. That's not something that fits into my security policy? > >, it's > > asking

Re: Udisks and/or polkit problems

2012-05-07 Thread David Zeuthen
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > I decided, that features gone, and after editing three files (two > ineffectual), polkit is atleast unmounting, but before I could look at > what that actually means in terms of what can be unmounted and > restricting that to certain devices

Re: Udisks and/or polkit problems

2012-05-07 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Mon, 7 May 2012 15:34:52 +0100 Kevin Chadwick wrote: > 1./ Why would udisks want modify after safely remove via nautilus or > thunar. I'm guessing that's to say unmounted correctly and no fsck needed? How do I preclude all the other permissions that I assume modify grants like newfs?