[freenet-devl] Freenet Winstaller - 0.3.9.1-2 Next (and last) try

2001-05-30 Thread Sebastian Späth
Dave Hooper schrieb: > > > I am currently checking in fixes into CVS. I will announce when they are > > ready > > 'Kay, done it. New try, http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/freenet/Freenet_setup0.3.9.1-2.exe contains the latest bugfixes of Dave and uses the Java configurator. David McNab, coul

Re: [freenet-devl] Freenet Winstaller - urgent

2001-05-30 Thread Sebastian Späth
"Mr.Bad" schrieb: > > > "DM" == David McNab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > DM> At present, there is no version of Freenet available for > DM> download from the Freenet site which will work. > > What happened to the one we had before? > > And why the hell are we doing so many inter

[freenet-devl] Content filter vs unicode

2001-05-30 Thread David McNab
> Really? It handles unicode scripts, or does it just block all HTTP access from > freenet pages? The latter could still lead to anonymity loss if javascript can > insert into freenet via POST on the portal page. For this reason, the fwproxy is not supporting POST within Freenet. Any javascript PO

[freenet-devl] Content filter vs unicode

2001-05-30 Thread David McNab
ould correspond to an "https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20010530/575b0b43/attachment.html>

[freenet-devl] Freeweb comments

2001-05-30 Thread David McNab
> > * The option to set the baseline time to a chosen or random hour, so as to > > avoid any risk of 'midnight GMT traffic jams' > Just insert it a few hours in advance and change the date to tomorrow. It's what > everyone does. I like that :) Thanks I'll put that in when I implement the scheduli

[freenet-devl] Content filter vs unicode

2001-05-30 Thread toad
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 12:06:20PM -0500, Timm Murray wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wednesday 30 May 2001 06:21, toad said: > > The attached file (recently posted to bugtraq by "eDvice Security Services" > > as an exploit to another filter proxy) is picked > > up

[freenet-devl] Freenet Winstaller - 0.3.9.1-2 TEST RESULTS

2001-05-30 Thread David McNab
> I just put together the new installer fresh from CVS. It is at > http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/freenet/Freenet_setup0.3.9.1-2.exe Test report - Freenet Winstaller 0.3.9.1-2 Summary: FAILED Conclusion: This installer is completely unusable, failing on both Win98SE and Win2k System spec: W

[freenet-devl] Freenet Winstaller TEST RESULTS 0.3.9.1-1

2001-05-30 Thread David McNab
Test report - Freenet Winstaller 0.3.9.1-1 Summary: FAIL Conclusion: Installer is unfit for distribution - System spec: Windows 98SE, virgin installation from ghosted image Sun JRE 1.3 Result: Success - System spec: Windows 2000 Profess

Fw: [freenet-devl] Freenet Winstaller - 0.3.9.1-2 TEST RESULTS

2001-05-30 Thread Dave Hooper
> 5) Flaunch.ini: > > [Freenet Launcher] > # Javaexec should point to your Java Runtime binary (jview.exe or java.exe) > javaexec=c:\Program Files\JavaSoft\JRE\1.3\bin\java.exe > javaw=c:\Program Files\JavaSoft\JRE\1.3\bin\javaw.exe > > # Commands to be executed by Java > frequest=Freenet.client.R

[freenet-devl] Freenet Winstaller - urgent

2001-05-30 Thread Mr.Bad
> "DM" == David McNab writes: DM> At present, there is no version of Freenet available for DM> download from the Freenet site which will work. What happened to the one we had before? And why the hell are we doing so many interim Windows installers? ~Mr. Bad -- ~

Re: [freenet-devl] Freenet Winstaller - urgent

2001-05-30 Thread Mr . Bad
> "DM" == David McNab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DM> At present, there is no version of Freenet available for DM> download from the Freenet site which will work. What happened to the one we had before? And why the hell are we doing so many interim Windows installers? ~Mr. Bad --

Re: [freenet-devl] Freenet Winstaller - 0.3.9.1-2 TEST RESULTS

2001-05-30 Thread Dave Hooper
> I am currently checking in fixes into CVS. I will announce when they are > ready 'Kay, done it. New freenet.exe is in CVSROOT/Contrib/wininstall/Freenet as you'd expect. All source in the obvious place too (../wininstall/Sources/freenet.exe) To the best of my knowledge, this update fixes al

[freenet-devl] Freenet Winstaller - urgent

2001-05-30 Thread David McNab
At present, there is no version of Freenet available for download from the Freenet site which will work. This means that Freenet is as good as broken on Windows. I'd suggest as a matter of urgency that someone with release privileges build up a 0.3.8 winstaller with the 0.3.9.1 Jar file, and put

[freenet-devl] cvs notifications

2001-05-30 Thread Sebastian Späth
Hi all, you can subscribe to the cvs change notification lists now. It is not spam proof or moderated yet as it has to allow posts from @users.sourgeforge.net mails. Does anybody can help me with a matching regex expression which is true if the header does *not* end with @users.sourceforge.net ? Y

Re: [freenet-devl] Freenet Winstaller - 0.3.9.1-2 TEST RESULTS

2001-05-30 Thread Dave Hooper
Dang, you know, I wish I had email access at my desk at work, I'd be able to do my fixes in a more timely fashion. The following bugs have very recently come to light, thanks to the very great work of David McNab and Reudiger Kapitza and Zhang Delong on the support mailing list: 1.Freenet do

[freenet-devl] Freeweb comments

2001-05-30 Thread David McNab
Again, let me be simple and blunt. The masses can't hack alphabet soup (should change within a few years if the Doonesbury cartoon holds any truth). I've taken a stand because I value the concept of Freenet - it's the most desperately under-installed thing on the Internet. Freenet still has a repu

[freenet-devl] Freeweb comments

2001-05-30 Thread David McNab
From: "Ian Clarke" OK - here's an option... How about I create a separate build of FreeWeb which excludes all the fwproxy/DNS/KSK functionality, and publish it under a different name, such as 'WinSite', or 'Winsert'.? David ___ Devl mailing list

[freenet-devl] Freeweb comments

2001-05-30 Thread David McNab
From: "Ian Clarke" >If this is true, then we should consider either: >a) Contacting the authors of these systems to point out the bug, or Yeah right. Shareware software authors just *love* lurching to their keyboards and rushing to implement features upon request. My narc-iness is not directed a

Re: [freenet-devl] Content filter vs unicode

2001-05-30 Thread toad
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 12:06:20PM -0500, Timm Murray wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wednesday 30 May 2001 06:21, toad said: > > The attached file (recently posted to bugtraq by "eDvice Security Services" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> as an exploit to another filter pro

[freenet-devl] An idea about in-freenet email

2001-05-30 Thread Yuan P Li
Hi, See if this is in the right direction: An important part of the internet is email as you know. How can email take advantage of freenet? I think the in-freenet key index machanism is a great start. (This occurs to me because we cannot send email to friends in China - if the message contains

[freenet-devl] Freeweb comments

2001-05-30 Thread David McNab
> BUT, the MSK at SSK@... is *not* spoofable. KSK at blah is spoofable. FreeWeb does not > allow MSK at SSK@... - it looks up the KSK every time to avoid nasty long (secure) > URLs. Freenet is secure if you use MSK at SSK@ Again... ... FreeWeb publishes and maintains totally secure sites in the st

[freenet-devl] Freeweb comments

2001-05-30 Thread David McNab
From: "thelema" >> > And another thing - there is a total horde of excellent tools, such as web >> > accelerators, website downloaders etc, many of which choke on their own >> > vomit when fed the 'politically correct' freenet URLs - when they see >> > 'http://127.0.0.1/MSK%40SSK%40alphabet-soup/

[freenet-devl] Freeweb comments

2001-05-30 Thread David McNab
From: "Ian Clarke" Have a closer look at FreeWeb. It may not have been noticed that it's easy to use FreeWeb in a way which complies completely with the existing standards - this was true even in the first prototype. As it stands (and always has done), FreeWeb performs the creation and updati

[freenet-devl] Freeweb comments

2001-05-30 Thread Benjamin Coates
>From ian at hawk.freenetproject.org (Ian Clarke) >On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 12:07:59PM -0400, Benjamin Coates wrote: >> How is freenet not a protocol with similar standing to HTTP and FTP? I would >> say that's exactly what it is... > >Because it *USES* HTTP for communcation with the local node, i

[freenet-devl] Content filter vs unicode

2001-05-30 Thread toad
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 11:46:59PM +1200, David McNab wrote: > > Really? It handles unicode scripts, or does it just block all HTTP access > from > > freenet pages? The latter could still lead to anonymity loss if javascript > can > > insert into freenet via POST on the portal page. > > For this r

[freenet-devl] Content filter vs unicode

2001-05-30 Thread toad
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 11:27:25PM +1200, David McNab wrote: > Hate to say this, but the FWproxy withing Freeweb is immune to this problem > :) Really? It handles unicode scripts, or does it just block all HTTP access from freenet pages? The latter could still lead to anonymity loss if javascript c

[freenet-devl] Freeweb comments

2001-05-30 Thread Blair Strang
> -Original Message- > From: Dave Hooper [mailto:no-brain at mindless.com] > True, the application has a different 'view' > onto the freenet space, but so what? As a glib > example, FTP clients generally sweeten the protocol > by allowing you to type "rename" instead of using > raw RNF

[freenet-devl] Content filter vs unicode

2001-05-30 Thread toad
this stuff? (finding which chars could correspond to an "https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20010530/1e6f50d5/attachment.html>

[freenet-devl] More WinStuff, pre-release version

2001-05-30 Thread Sebastian Späth
I just put together the new installer fresh from CVS. It is at http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/freenet/Freenet_setup0.3.9.1-2.exe It is not public on Sourceforge.net and should not be announced until others are happy with it (end of this week or so). Dave, I get "Freenet is having problems" fee

[freenet-devl] Freeweb comments

2001-05-30 Thread Benjamin Coates
>From ian at hawk.freenetproject.org (Ian Clarke) >> >From previous discussions on lists and chat, I notice that Freenet >> developers aren't sharing your staunch objection against freenet: URI >> handlers, on the grounds that some weird browsers may not handle them. > >In this project we choose t

[freenet-devl] Content filter vs unicode

2001-05-30 Thread Timm Murray
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 30 May 2001 06:27, David McNab said: > Hate to say this, but the FWproxy withing Freeweb is immune to this problem While I don't think FreeWeb itself is that great, I do think you got the FWproxy done the Right Way. - -- Timm Murray

[freenet-devl] Content filter vs unicode

2001-05-30 Thread Timm Murray
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 30 May 2001 06:21, toad said: > The attached file (recently posted to bugtraq by "eDvice Security Services" > as an exploit to another filter proxy) is picked > up by fproxy's filter, but only the meta tag that sets the character set. > T

[freenet-devl] Freeweb comments

2001-05-30 Thread toad
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 02:02:27PM +1200, David McNab wrote: > From: "Ian Clarke" > > > > Have a closer look at FreeWeb. > > It may not have been noticed that it's easy to use FreeWeb in a way which > complies completely with the existing standards - this was true even in the > first prototype

[freenet-devl] Freeweb comments

2001-05-30 Thread Ian Clarke
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Re: [freenet-devl] Freeweb comments

2001-05-30 Thread Ian Clarke
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 01:19:25PM -0400, Benjamin Coates wrote: > >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Clarke) > >On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 12:07:59PM -0400, Benjamin Coates wrote: > >> How is freenet not a protocol with similar standing to HTTP and FTP? I > would > >> say that's exactly what it is... >

[freenet-devl] An idea about in-freenet email

2001-05-30 Thread Yuan P Li
Hi, See if this is in the right direction: An important part of the internet is email as you know. How can email take advantage of freenet? I think the in-freenet key index machanism is a great start. (This occurs to me because we cannot send email to friends in China - if the message contains

[freenet-devl] Freeweb comments

2001-05-30 Thread Cruise
-- > On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 02:09:59PM +1200, David McNab wrote: >> > BUT, the MSK at SSK@... is *not* spoofable. KSK at blah is spoofable. >> > FreeWeb >> > allow MSK at SSK@... - it looks up the KSK every time to avoid nasty long >> > URLs. Freenet is secure if you use MSK at SSK@

[freenet-devl] Freeweb comments

2001-05-30 Thread David McNab
From: "Ian Clarke" >> >Why not just let people connect straight to >> >FProxy as nature intended >> Because with FreeWeb running as a true http proxy, it takes control of all >> the browser's access to the internet. >> This allows for a far more accurate anonymity filter. Try it and see. > >It do

RE: [freenet-devl] Freeweb comments

2001-05-30 Thread Benjamin Coates
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Clarke) >On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 12:07:59PM -0400, Benjamin Coates wrote: >> How is freenet not a protocol with similar standing to HTTP and FTP? I would >> say that's exactly what it is... > >Because it *USES* HTTP for communcation with the local node, it is not a >

Re: [freenet-devl] Content filter vs unicode

2001-05-30 Thread Timm Murray
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 30 May 2001 06:21, toad said: > The attached file (recently posted to bugtraq by "eDvice Security Services" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> as an exploit to another filter proxy) is picked > up by fproxy's filter, but only the meta tag that sets th

Re: [freenet-devl] Content filter vs unicode

2001-05-30 Thread Timm Murray
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 30 May 2001 06:27, David McNab said: > Hate to say this, but the FWproxy withing Freeweb is immune to this problem While I don't think FreeWeb itself is that great, I do think you got the FWproxy done the Right Way. - -- Timm Murray

[freenet-devl] Freeweb comments

2001-05-30 Thread Ian Clarke
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[freenet-devl] cvs notifications

2001-05-30 Thread Ian Clarke
lable URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20010530/971745b4/attachment.pgp>

Re: [freenet-devl] Freeweb comments

2001-05-30 Thread Ian Clarke
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 12:07:59PM -0400, Benjamin Coates wrote: > How is freenet not a protocol with similar standing to HTTP and FTP? I would > say that's exactly what it is... Because it *USES* HTTP for communcation with the local node, it is not a replacement for HTTP, and there is no need

Re: [freenet-devl] cvs notifications

2001-05-30 Thread Ian Clarke
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 05:47:52PM +0200, Sebastian Sp?th wrote: > Hi all, > you can subscribe to the cvs change notification lists now. It is not > spam proof or moderated yet as it has to allow posts from > @users.sourgeforge.net mails. Does anybody can help me with a matching > regex expression

RE: [freenet-devl] Freeweb comments

2001-05-30 Thread Benjamin Coates
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Clarke) >> >From previous discussions on lists and chat, I notice that Freenet >> developers aren't sharing your staunch objection against freenet: URI >> handlers, on the grounds that some weird browsers may not handle them. > >In this project we choose the correct s

[freenet-devl] Freeweb comments

2001-05-30 Thread Neil Barsema
David wrote: > All this aside, I still like the idea of a '.free' underground > domain, using > the familiar web paradigm. > It's tempting to strip all that functionality out of FreeWeb, to appease > Ian's concerns, and publish the FwProxy as a completely separate program, > not associated with Fre

[freenet-devl] cvs notifications

2001-05-30 Thread Sebastian Späth
Hi all, you can subscribe to the cvs change notification lists now. It is not spam proof or moderated yet as it has to allow posts from @users.sourgeforge.net mails. Does anybody can help me with a matching regex expression which is true if the header does *not* end with @users.sourceforge.net ?

Re: [freenet-devl] Content filter vs unicode

2001-05-30 Thread toad
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 11:46:59PM +1200, David McNab wrote: > > Really? It handles unicode scripts, or does it just block all HTTP access > from > > freenet pages? The latter could still lead to anonymity loss if javascript > can > > insert into freenet via POST on the portal page. > > For this

Re: [freenet-devl] Content filter vs unicode

2001-05-30 Thread David McNab
> Really? It handles unicode scripts, or does it just block all HTTP access from > freenet pages? The latter could still lead to anonymity loss if javascript can > insert into freenet via POST on the portal page. For this reason, the fwproxy is not supporting POST within Freenet. Any javascript P

Re: [freenet-devl] Content filter vs unicode

2001-05-30 Thread toad
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 11:27:25PM +1200, David McNab wrote: > Hate to say this, but the FWproxy withing Freeweb is immune to this problem > :) Really? It handles unicode scripts, or does it just block all HTTP access from freenet pages? The latter could still lead to anonymity loss if javascript

Re: [freenet-devl] Content filter vs unicode

2001-05-30 Thread David McNab
Hate to say this, but the FWproxy withing Freeweb is immune to this problem :) - Original Message - From: toad To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 23:21 Subject: [freenet-devl] Content filter vs unicode The attached file (recently posted to bugtraq

Re: [freenet-devl] Freeweb comments

2001-05-30 Thread David McNab
> > * The option to set the baseline time to a chosen or random hour, so as to > > avoid any risk of 'midnight GMT traffic jams' > Just insert it a few hours in advance and change the date to tomorrow. It's what > everyone does. I like that :) Thanks I'll put that in when I implement the schedul

[freenet-devl] Freenet Winstaller - 0.3.9.1-2 TEST RESULTS

2001-05-30 Thread David McNab
> I just put together the new installer fresh from CVS. It is at > http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/freenet/Freenet_setup0.3.9.1-2.exe Test report - Freenet Winstaller 0.3.9.1-2 Summary: FAILED Conclusion: This installer is completely unusable, failing on both Win98SE and Win2k System spec:

[freenet-devl] Freenet Winstaller TEST RESULTS 0.3.9.1-1

2001-05-30 Thread David McNab
Test report - Freenet Winstaller 0.3.9.1-1 Summary: FAIL Conclusion: Installer is unfit for distribution - System spec: Windows 98SE, virgin installation from ghosted image Sun JRE 1.3 Result: Success - System spec: Windows 2000 Profes

[freenet-devl] Content filter vs unicode

2001-05-30 Thread toad
The attached file (recently posted to bugtraq by "eDvice Security Services" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> as an exploit to another filter proxy) is picked up by fproxy's filter, but only the meta tag that sets the character set. This is used by, for example, the Freenet China News sites, though they use ch

Re: [freenet-devl] Freeweb comments

2001-05-30 Thread toad
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 02:02:27PM +1200, David McNab wrote: > From: "Ian Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Have a closer look at FreeWeb. > > It may not have been noticed that it's easy to use FreeWeb in a way which > complies completely with the existing standards - this was true even in t

[freenet-devl] More WinStuff, pre-release version

2001-05-30 Thread Sebastian Späth
I just put together the new installer fresh from CVS. It is at http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/freenet/Freenet_setup0.3.9.1-2.exe It is not public on Sourceforge.net and should not be announced until others are happy with it (end of this week or so). Dave, I get "Freenet is having problems" fe

Re[2]: [freenet-devl] Freeweb comments

2001-05-30 Thread Cruise
-- > On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 02:09:59PM +1200, David McNab wrote: >> > BUT, the MSK@SSK@... is *not* spoofable. KSK@blah is spoofable. FreeWeb >> > allow MSK@SSK@... - it looks up the KSK every time to avoid nasty long >> > URLs. Freenet is secure if you use MSK@SSK@ >> >> Again... .

[freenet-devl] Freeweb comments

2001-05-30 Thread Chris Anderson
On Wed, 30 May 2001, David McNab wrote: > > From: "Chris Anderson" > > it is cool to think of .free as a censorship free domain... it's power is > > in it's simplicity (but if it exists at all, it should use ssks). > > The first prototype of FreeWeb did just that. However, it depends on > one o

[freenet-devl] Freeweb comments

2001-05-30 Thread toad
On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 08:04:38PM -0400, eigenman wrote: > > > Well duh. > > > freeweb is to freenet as WWW is to HTTP! > > > Its a naming process. > > > > > > > WWW is to HTTP? Huh? > > An abstract naming simplification. Which stops at a point where most > average people understand how to use i

[freenet-devl] Freeweb comments

2001-05-30 Thread Dave Hooper
What's stopping David from doing this anyway, with or without the consent of The Freenet Corporation? Either people will use it or they won't use it. Either way it doesn't detract from the usefulness of Freenet. The only problem I can (really) see is that it could lead to a widespread misconcepti