Re: Is this a Known Bug ????

2001-05-03 Thread Lars Clausen

On Thu, 03 May 2001, Ben A. Hetland wrote:

 
 Cyril ZEKSER wrote:
 I've made an UML diagram, with classes and hierarchy ! When I open it,
 the connector aren't connected correctly (as I saved them) , as shown
 in the sample below :
 
 [Image]
 
 Hmmm... do you mean that the lines aren't connected at the blue cross
 location, as they probably should? Otherwise they seem nicely lined-up.
 
 If so, I think I have observed a similar erraneous behavior when working
 with a diagram on multiple computers having different screen resolution
 (and also Win32-Linux). In my case however, the lines' end points just
 end up far away from the element it's connected to, and they look like
 they're not connected at all (but they are!). This is only initially
 after opening the file -- as soon as I move the element around, the
 line pops into place again. Annoying...

I could imagine this being caused by fonts being of different size on
different platforms.  Does this also happen when no text is involved?

-Lars

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Re: Is this a Known Bug ????

2001-05-03 Thread Cyril ZEKSER

Lars Clausen a écrit :

 On Thu, 03 May 2001, Ben A. Hetland wrote:

 
  Cyril ZEKSER wrote:
  I've made an UML diagram, with classes and hierarchy ! When I open it,
  the connector aren't connected correctly (as I saved them) , as shown
  in the sample below :
 
  [Image]
 
  Hmmm... do you mean that the lines aren't connected at the blue cross
  location, as they probably should? Otherwise they seem nicely lined-up.
 
  If so, I think I have observed a similar erraneous behavior when working
  with a diagram on multiple computers having different screen resolution
  (and also Win32-Linux). In my case however, the lines' end points just
  end up far away from the element it's connected to, and they look like
  they're not connected at all (but they are!). This is only initially
  after opening the file -- as soon as I move the element around, the
  line pops into place again. Annoying...

 I could imagine this being caused by fonts being of different size on
 different platforms.  Does this also happen when no text is involved?

Same size, but differents platform and resolutions. Could be this, anyhow !
I haven't tried (yet)With No text... I'll tell you

Cyril




Re: Is this a Known Bug ????

2001-05-03 Thread Cyril ZEKSER


 I could imagine this being caused by fonts being of different size on
 different platforms.  Does this also happen when no text is involved?

Seems to be ok without Text Ben is probably right in his explanation

Cyril

PS : this is really annoying with big UML diagrams... since I have to move every 
single class a
little bit to correct the connection.




Re: Is this a Known Bug ????

2001-05-03 Thread Cyril ZEKSER

Ben A. Hetland a écrit :

 Lars Clausen wrote:
 
  On Thu, 03 May 2001, Ben A. Hetland wrote:
 [...]
   If so, I think I have observed a similar erraneous behavior when working
   with a diagram on multiple computers having different screen resolution
   (and also Win32-Linux). In my case however, the lines' end points just
   end up far away from the element it's connected to, and they look like
   they're not connected at all (but they are!). This is only initially
   after opening the file -- as soon as I move the element around, the
   line pops into place again. Annoying...
 
  I could imagine this being caused by fonts being of different size on
  different platforms.  Does this also happen when no text is involved?

 I have mainly used the UML elements when I discovered this, but I'm not
 sure if it occurred on every possible combination of migrating the
 files.
 (At the moment I'm a bit stuck with a half-empty brand new machine...
 so I have a lot to reinstall.) I.e., I observed it especially on the
 right edges of UML Class objects, but they definitely do involve fonts,
 as you point out. They also have the property that they determine their
 own size (depending on font?).


I've read that those UML elements aren't scalable, cause their size is based on the 
length of the
contained text, which depends on the screen res (for drawing and aproximation), the 
font name and
the font size.



 I could not observe any such erraneous behavior in this simple test.
 (Not to say that it never occurs, though, this was just a very quick
 check.) So maybe you're right about the fonts, Lars!


I DO think he is right !

Cyril




Re: Is this a Known Bug ????

2001-05-03 Thread Lars Clausen

On Thu, 03 May 2001, Ben A. Hetland wrote:

 
 
 Lars Clausen wrote:
 
 On Thu, 03 May 2001, Ben A. Hetland wrote:
 [...]
  If so, I think I have observed a similar erraneous behavior when
  working with a diagram on multiple computers having different screen
  resolution (and also Win32-Linux). In my case however, the lines'
  end points just end up far away from the element it's connected to,
  and they look like they're not connected at all (but they are!). This
  is only initially after opening the file -- as soon as I move the
  element around, the line pops into place again. Annoying...
 
 I could imagine this being caused by fonts being of different size on
 different platforms.  Does this also happen when no text is involved?
 
 I have mainly used the UML elements when I discovered this, but I'm not
 sure if it occurred on every possible combination of migrating the
 files.
 (At the moment I'm a bit stuck with a half-empty brand new machine...
 so I have a lot to reinstall.) I.e., I observed it especially on the
 right edges of UML Class objects, but they definitely do involve fonts,
 as you point out. They also have the property that they determine their
 own size (depending on font?).

Hmmm... they seem to calculate everything correctly.  Could you send a
small example diagram with this behaviour (preferably just one object that
has wrong size)?  If you send me one from the Windows machine, I should be
able to see it, too.

-Lars

-- 
Lars Clausen (http://shasta.cs.uiuc.edu/~lrclause) | Hårdgrim of Numenor
I do not agree with a word that you say, but I| Retainer of Sir Kegg
will defend to the death your right to say it.|   of Westfield
--Evelyn Beatrice Hall paraphrasing Voltaire   | Chaos Berserker of Khorne




Re: Is this a Known Bug ????

2001-05-03 Thread Karim A Nassar

  I could imagine this being caused by fonts being of different size on
  different platforms.  Does this also happen when no text is involved?
 
 Seems to be ok without Text Ben is probably right in his explanation
 
 Cyril
 
 PS : this is really annoying with big UML diagrams... since I have to move every 
single class a
 little bit to correct the connection.
 
 


Can you select all and move it a tiny bit? Maybe this is a time saving
work around?

Just a suggestion,
-- Karim Nassar