Re: [DDN] A Littl' More On Bridging the Digital Divide in the US

2005-10-12 Thread Taran Rampersad
Peter S. Lopez wrote: >REPLY ~ >Wednesday Morning ~ I agree with you Dr. Eskow and am pleased at your common >sense. > >I am not sure how many people on this DDN Discussion List are actually poor >themselves in the economic sense. Nevertheless, we must all clearly understand >that the ‘big fac

Re: [DDN] A Littl' More On Bridging the Digital Divide in the US

2005-10-12 Thread Taran Rampersad
Steve, While I understand your point, I think you fail to understand my point - at least judging by your response. You see, the point is that technology is changing while this discussion takes place, and like it or not the 'social computer', as you call it, is indeed increasingly becoming the pers

[DDN] DATE CORRECTION - Webcast (Oct 19): NSF Funding Opportunity for Out-of-School Programs

2005-10-12 Thread HCHUNG
On behalf of the ITEST, I apologize for the wrong date listed in this email. We will be holding the webcast on Wednesday, October 19. This is the correct date. Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions. Sincerely, Haejung Chung Research Assistant, The YouthLearn Initiativ

[DDN] A Digital Divide review: what to start with Russia

2005-10-12 Thread BBracey
At lower levels there are these projects. the US-Russian Civic Networking Program (funded by the Ford Foundation and the Eurasia Foundation) and directed several other US-Russia network infrastructure and community development programs funded by such organizations as NATO, US Department of St

Re: [DDN] A Littl' More On Bridging the Digital Divide in the US

2005-10-12 Thread Mauro DePasquale
Digital Divide This: _Food_, _Shelter_, _Security_(family/community),_ literacy / __education_, _technology_. Priorities in order. Community Computer Media access, in the form of a Public Access station or community computer center is not obsolete. At least a Community Computer lab or a Public

Re: [DDN] Creating the $100 Laptop

2005-10-12 Thread Taran Rampersad
Egor Grebnev wrote: >On Thursday 13 October 2005 01:51, Taran Rampersad wrote: > > >>But those folks are always shifting, and would be hard to find... >> >> > >But what would you like to know? :) > > Everything. But the quote taken out of context makes it difficult to respond to what speci

[DDN] Re: Is the Internet the New Social Welfare Delivery System?

2005-10-12 Thread Deborah Elizabeth Finn
Dear DDN Colleagues, Just a quick update: in my previous post, I had paraphrased some informal conversations with John McNutt about this topic. He has now posted a summary of his current thoughts, which can be found at: "The Second Social Welfare System?"

Re: [DDN] some stores "testing the waters" for selling linux systems

2005-10-12 Thread Egor Grebnev
I believe that the Links browser has to be mentioned here. It doesn't require the X Windows system to run while it can still display web pages with full graphics: http://links.twibright.com/ On Tuesday 11 October 2005 18:10, Phil Shapiro wrote: > thanks for asking, rene. while it's possible to

[DDN] Webcast: NSF Funding Opportunity for Out-of-School Programs

2005-10-12 Thread HCHUNG
Webcast on November 19 1:00-2:00 OR 3:00-4:00 ET Focuses on Unique Funding Opportunity for Informal/Out-of-School Learning Programs offered by the National Science Foundation The National Science Foundation's ITEST (Information Technology Experiences for Students and Teachers) program is seeking

Re: [DDN] A Littl' More On Bridging the Digital Divide in the US

2005-10-12 Thread BBracey
I struggle with this $100 dollar initiative because I know that in many countries, onehundred US dollars is a LOT of money. There were some initiatives that were a locational resource that served whole villages through UNESCO. If the world were a village of 1,000 people ... Dona Meadows If th

RE: [DDN] Don't Let Fear Kill Muni Wi-Fi (fwd)

2005-10-12 Thread Alfred Bork
Andy, this is not fear, but corporate greed. It already happens in some cases in schools and universities, and in some cities outside the US. However, globally it is not going to happen fast enough, in the time frame suggested in High Noon. And the Internet is not a likely global solution. For lea

Re: [DDN] A Digital Divide review: what to start with

2005-10-12 Thread Egor Grebnev
On Tuesday 11 October 2005 19:20, ehewitt wrote: > What about reliable, affordable and accessible power? This is mostly not a problem nowadays, although the things can certainly become worse as the Soviet-era power networks grow older (a great part of Moscow remained with no electricity for the

Re: [DDN] Creating the $100 Laptop

2005-10-12 Thread Egor Grebnev
On Thursday 13 October 2005 01:51, Taran Rampersad wrote: > But those folks are always shifting, and would be hard to find... But what would you like to know? :) -- Egor Grebnev ALT Linux Co. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVI

Re: [DDN] Don't Let Fear Kill Muni Wi-Fi (fwd)

2005-10-12 Thread DSSA310
In a message dated 10/12/2005 11:47:07 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andy/Jim: Perhaps Jennifer Granick and others at Stanford might want to develop a "pro muni" project group involving law students, business students and engineering students which could leverage the work

RE: [DDN] A Littl' More On Bridging the Digital Divide in the US

2005-10-12 Thread Subbiah Arunachalam
Friends: Community ownership and public good approach are being practised in the information village research project of the M S Swaminathan Research Foundation in India for the past nearly ten years. Technology costs money and most people in rural India cannot afford to buy computers and get conn

RE: [DDN] A Littl' More On Bridging the Digital Divide in the US

2005-10-12 Thread Dr. Steve Eskow
The voice of Peter Lopes--the voice of the literate, intelligent poor in the U.S. and around the world--is a voice that needs to be heard and brought into the conversation if we are to bridge the digital divide. Steve Eskow [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Peter S. Lopez [ma

RE: [DDN] A Littl' More On Bridging the Digital Divide in the US

2005-10-12 Thread Peter S. Lopez
"Dr. Steve Eskow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: < wrote: > And of course Ronda is joined is this conviction by Negroponte and many others. My own hunch is that leaping the stage of "the social computer" and moving immediately to "the personal computer" is an invitation to failure. Unless the compu

RE: [DDN] A Digital Divide review: what to start with

2005-10-12 Thread ehewitt
Hi Alfred, You are right-- that's really why I used the word "power" and not 'electricity' to suggest the range possible.The point being to make sure you have that essential base covered which at times is taken for granted. Errol At 13:50 11/10/2005 -0700, you wrote: Power is not necessary. S

[DDN] Whitepaper explores a new form of challenge grants to promote nonprofit sustainability

2005-10-12 Thread Mark Frazier
All, A report on new opportunities for nonprofit sustainability is coming out this weekend. I hope DDN participants will find the strategies of benefit in securing new assets and funds. The 80-page Sabre Foundation/Whitehead Foundation-sponsored study -- entitled "New Catalysts for Sustainabilit

RE: [DDN] A Littl' More On Bridging the Digital Divide in the US

2005-10-12 Thread Dr. Steve Eskow
Imagine a village, in Africa perhaps, where 200 literates are ready to use computers. Their average yearly income is $300 US. Forcing the "personal computer" solution--even when the $100 computer becomes a reality-- requires that each family pay one-third of its annual income for the device. Ser

[DDN] Don't Let Fear Kill Muni Wi-Fi (fwd)

2005-10-12 Thread Andy Carvin
A commentary about municipal wi-fi from Stanford Law School's Jennifer Granick on Wired.com... -ac Don't Let Fear Kill Muni Wi-Fi Plans are afoot in Philadelphia and Huntsville, Alabama, as well as my hometown of San Francisco, to provide residents with low-cost or free wireless internet acc

Re: [DDN] A Digital Divide review: what to start with

2005-10-12 Thread Taran Rampersad
I think that the point Errol is trying to make, and certainly the point I am trying to make, is that it's a catch-22. Education is needed to run the solar energy, or other renewable energy sources. Consider mechanical means of generating electricity require knowledge of Tesla's inventions - generat

Re: [DDN] A Littl' More On Bridging the Digital Divide in the US

2005-10-12 Thread BBracey
> > < is obsolete— disadvantaged kids, starting at a the preschool level, need a > computer in their home in order to have a chance at parity with their more > affluent counterparts. Want to Improve High Schools? Put Computers in the > Homes. is now published on the Digital Divide Network websit

Re: [DDN] A Littl' More On Bridging the Digital Divide in the US

2005-10-12 Thread Taran Rampersad
Dr. Steve Eskow wrote: >My own hunch is that leaping the stage of "the social computer" and moving >immediately to "the personal computer" is an invitation to failure. > > Well, if you think in terms of computers, I can understand that hunch. But a network of computers is a separate thing; a 'so

Re: [DDN] A Digital Divide review: what to start with

2005-10-12 Thread Egor Grebnev
On Tuesday 11 October 2005 18:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > You might try poking around the digital divide network so you can see how > we build community and share ideas. That is what I started with and it will probably be what I will be finishing with. :-) -- Egor Grebnev ALT Linux Co. [EMAI

Re: [DDN] some stores "testing the waters" for selling linux systems

2005-10-12 Thread Daniel O. Escasa
Sabi ni Rene noong Tue, 11 Oct 2005 11:56:36 +0800 (HKT): > what we got here in the philippines that i can donate to elementary > schools is pentium 200 and 32 mb ram at about $60 > > do you know of any easy-install gui linux distribution that can run > happily with the above configuration? Kabay

RE: [DDN] A Digital Divide review: what to start with

2005-10-12 Thread Alfred Bork
Power is not necessary. Solar power is getting better and better. And mechanical means can generate power. Learning material for all forms of literacy is the best starting point, as I said. Alfred Bork University of California, Irvine -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:

RE: [DDN] A Littl' More On Bridging the Digital Divide in the US

2005-10-12 Thread Dr. Steve Eskow
< wrote: <> And of course Ronda is joined is this conviction by Negroponte and many others. My own hunch is that leaping the stage of "the social computer" and moving immediately to "the personal computer" is an invitation to failure. Unless the computers never need servicing, never get infe