Re: [DDN] Intel: Poor Want 'Real' Computers (fwd)

2005-12-14 Thread BBracey
In a message dated 12/13/05 4:55:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Of course I see your point (otherwise I would not be involved so deeply in digital equity/digital divide issues) but, as with the case of Barrett announcing that everyone needs a real computer, shouldn't the point be that

RE: [DDN] Intel: Poor Want 'Real' Computers (fwd)

2005-12-14 Thread Ken Callaghan
Hi Cindy Your comments are so straightforward and incisive. We are in danger of blaming technology, or the lack of it, for the digital divide, whereas people seldom consider themselves as having some responsibility for their own position. This is not to minimize the problems that exist where

Re: [DDN] Intel: Poor Want 'Real' Computers (fwd)

2005-12-13 Thread Sandra Andrews
Good point about sharing. Similarly, I have been hearing from an elder that, in the case of a cultural group that I am working with in Mexico, they'd also want to start with just a few laptops. Giving laptops to all the children would impact the culture too much too quickly. Who knows what the

RE: [DDN] Intel: Poor Want 'Real' Computers (fwd)

2005-12-13 Thread Cindy Lemcke-Hoong
Hello Paul, What you have described is what I have been saying. Perhaps not as directly and as powerful as you just did. Someone wrote about innovation. And that set me thinking this afternoon. Innovation -- big or small, any shapes and sizes, any flavours -- will only materialize

Re: [DDN] Intel: Poor Want 'Real' Computers (fwd)

2005-12-13 Thread BBracey
the Nokia Foundation and Ayala have projects using ubiquitous computing in the way of phones . This is the UN book. This work is not just done in one country. This is in developing countries as well as various other countries. I can send individually a e-copy of the initiative. Tri-sector

Re: [DDN] Intel: Poor Want 'Real' Computers (fwd)

2005-12-13 Thread Jon maddog Hall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Giving laptops to all the children would impact the culture too much too quickly. I am not sure that I agree with this. We should help them use their computers wisely, and help them understand that it is a tool, not an end. In Western Samoa many years ago the

Re: [DDN] Intel: Poor Want 'Real' Computers (fwd)

2005-12-13 Thread Sandra Andrews
Jon, Of course I see your point (otherwise I would not be involved so deeply in digital equity/digital divide issues) but, as with the case of Barrett announcing that everyone needs a real computer, shouldn't the point be that those concerned should be making the decisions about their future? :-)

Re: [DDN] Intel: Poor Want 'Real' Computers (fwd)

2005-12-12 Thread rengab
hi all as the $100 laptop is configured it's a 'real' enough computer for us here in the philippines actually it's over the top to give each child one laptop (not ok financially and environmentally) in 'sharing' societies like we have (as compared to 'personal' societies) the $100 laptop can

Re: [DDN] Intel: Poor Want 'Real' Computers (fwd)

2005-12-12 Thread David Rosen
I wonder if someone could summarize what we know about the OLCP M.I.T. Media Lab $100 laptop: I heard there were five Asian companies bidding to produce it. Has one been selected? Has an actual production timeline been announced? Have any of the identified countries committed the money

RE: [DDN] Intel: Poor Want 'Real' Computers (fwd)

2005-12-12 Thread Paul Mondesire
Yet when investment arrives and when agencies offer FREE training on FREE computers these same people disappear into the mist because they have no excuse left, or realize that their bluff has been called and the reality is that they never really WANTED to use the facility, but it was something

Re: [DDN] Intel: Poor Want 'Real' Computers (fwd)

2005-12-11 Thread Jaroy Investments
I support Intels CEO;s school of thougth on the $100 computer because Nigerian computer teachers will find a used $100 computer more useful and beneficial to the students than the $100 laptop which will not be availble in the indusrtial and commercial setting where the training is to be

RE: [DDN] Intel: Poor Want 'Real' Computers (fwd)

2005-12-11 Thread Jesse Sinaiko
I would be curious to know where Mr. Barrett gets all this information about what poor people want and/or will accept. Not that he's necessarily wrong, but for me it gets tiresome listening to the Great and the Good pontificating about what the third world and/or economically excluded populations

Re: [DDN] Intel: Poor Want 'Real' Computers (fwd)

2005-12-11 Thread Tom Brough
Andy Carvin wrote: The latest twist in the $100 laptop debate... -andy Intel: Poor Want 'Real' Computers Potential computer users in the developing world will not want a basic $100 hand-cranked laptop due to be rolled out to millions, according to Craig Barrett, ECO of Intel.

Re: [DDN] Intel: Poor Want 'Real' Computers (fwd)

2005-12-11 Thread Satish Jha
C K Prahlad has also argued that the poor are not content with sub-standard offerings.. For instance they will spend on education even when free government schools are available just to ensure they get a better product or service. Similarly in the case of computing.. They want what works and

Re: [DDN] Intel: Poor Want 'Real' Computers (fwd

2005-12-11 Thread Terry King
INTEL thinks it's a bad idea? I bet this was right after they lost out to AMD with the MIT developers... At WSIS, I got a good look at the circuit boards of the $100 laptop prototype, and talked to a knowledgeable member of the group about the chips used and the limitations. One comment he

Re: [DDN] Intel: Poor Want 'Real' Computers (fwd)

2005-12-11 Thread Tom Brough
Jaroy Investments wrote: I support Intels CEO;s school of thougth on the $100 computer because Nigerian computer teachers will find a used $100 computer more useful and beneficial to the students than the $100 laptop which will not be availble in the indusrtial and commercial setting where

[DDN] Intel: Poor Want 'Real' Computers (fwd)

2005-12-09 Thread Andy Carvin
The latest twist in the $100 laptop debate... -andy Intel: Poor Want 'Real' Computers Potential computer users in the developing world will not want a basic $100 hand-cranked laptop due to be rolled out to millions, according to Craig Barrett, ECO of Intel. Schoolchildren in Brazil,