RE: [DDN] bill gates transitions

2006-06-22 Thread Jesse Sinaiko
C'mon Don - Please don't get caustic. There is a difference between a mission and an opinion. I wish you luck in your mission of moving the leviathans. I think this thread has in fact seen better days. Jesse Sinaiko - Chicago, IL ___

Re: [DDN] bill gates transitions

2006-06-22 Thread Andy Carvin
Consider this thread over. Please take it off-list if you wish to continue it. I think this thread has in fact seen better days. -- -- Andy Carvin acarvin (at) edc . org andycarvin (at) yahoo . com http://www.andycarvin.com http://www.digitaldivide.net

RE: [DDN] bill gates transitions

2006-06-21 Thread Don Cameron
I just think it is the nature of the beast to eat everything that it can reach and that in the end we are better off breaking these outfits up into politically manageable pieces Hi Jesse, I think your concerns are much broader than the matter of corporate's supporting OSS, and I would need

Re: [DDN] bill gates transitions

2006-06-21 Thread Norbert Bollow
Jesse Sinaiko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has been shown over and over again that the creative side of this stuff has nothing to do with size. These outfits become as big and over-reaching as they are in order to grab and hold market share; that is, to sell us lots and lots of stuff, and to

RE: [DDN] bill gates transitions

2006-06-20 Thread Jesse Sinaiko
Don - Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I really mischaracterized it when I said over and over that the big boys - MS in particular - haven't done anything for me. What I really meant...seriously, I should have spent more time talking about what I believe is the hard-wired behavior of these

RE: [DDN] bill gates transitions

2006-06-19 Thread arun
Friends: To take this discussion a little away from Microsoft and OSS. The Gatses are among the largest funders of public health and school education programmes. Both of these can benefit a great deal if knowledge flows freely and unfettered. Currently the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation

RE: [DDN] bill gates transitions

2006-06-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At the risk of sounding like a misinformed idiot, why? They aren't doing much to support me. (snip) Hi Jesse, We seem to have some convergence of threads so I'll try to keep on topic... Far from misinformed your question inspires careful thought. Why? - perhaps a variety of reasons. Maybe

Re: [DDN] bill gates transitions

2006-06-18 Thread Andy Carvin
There really isn't any point in me continuing the 'Missing the point' thread when rational debate has gone walkies. Well said. Let's wrap this up. For those who have been a part of this discussion, feel free to post a concluding thought, but please take any new tacks or followups

RE: [DDN] bill gates transitions

2006-06-17 Thread Executive Director
thinks, Mike Michael F. Pitsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Shapiro Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 8:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [DDN] bill gates transitions hi DDN community - that's quite some news

[DDN] bill gates transitions

2006-06-16 Thread Phil Shapiro
hi DDN community - that's quite some news that bill gates will be stepping down from his full time job at microsoft. i was totally surprised to hear that he has also accepted an entry level position at red hat. considering the overwhelmingly dominant role microsoft has played in computers