On 2011-12-05 08:13, Somedude wrote:
Le 04/12/2011 21:24, Jacob Carlborg a écrit :
But the problem remains, CoffeeScript compiles to JavaScript so you are
still limited by JS.
What about Lua ?
I find it pretty powerful for such a small language. And I do think it
makes sens to base a GUI on a
Jacob Carlborg Wrote:
> On 2011-12-04 22:07, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
> > On 12/4/11, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
> >> If Microsoft kills GDI and uses some DirectX/OpenGL backend for its GUI,
> >> then that will be the native GUI. Just because GDI/Win32 has been the
> >> native GUI for Windows doesn't me
Le 04/12/2011 18:51, Nick Sabalausky a écrit :
> "Somedude" wrote in message
> news:jbeva3$2785$1...@digitalmars.com...
>> Le 04/12/2011 03:40, Don a écrit :
>>> If you work in an environment where practically all apps are fast,
>>> Eclipse stands out as being slow. The startup time is particular
On 05/12/11 17:51, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2011-12-04 21:46, Andrew Wiley wrote:
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 1:42 AM, Jonathan M
Davis wrote:
On Sunday, December 04, 2011 01:24:02 Andrew Wiley wrote:
This should work, right? I'm not just going crazy or something?
import std.concurrency;
import s
On 2011-12-04 21:40, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
Jacob Carlborg Wrote:
Maybe you should take a look at SASS, it has if-statements, for-loops,
Yea, I've looked at it before (and like some of the ideas - their lighten,
darken,
etc. functions are nice and I intend to implement them myself as I find th
On 2011-12-04 22:07, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
On 12/4/11, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
If Microsoft kills GDI and uses some DirectX/OpenGL backend for its GUI,
then that will be the native GUI. Just because GDI/Win32 has been the
native GUI for Windows doesn't mean it can't be replaced with a new
native
On 2011-12-04 21:46, Andrew Wiley wrote:
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 1:42 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Sunday, December 04, 2011 01:24:02 Andrew Wiley wrote:
This should work, right? I'm not just going crazy or something?
import std.concurrency;
import std.stdio;
class Bob {
}
void main() {
Am 04.12.2011 12:50, schrieb Jacob Carlborg:
> On 2011-12-02 17:38, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>> "Joshua Niehus" wrote in message
>> news:mailman.1243.1322814889.24802.digitalmar...@puremagic.com...
On 12/1/11 2:59 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 12/1/2011 2:42 AM, Gour wrote:
> I'd like t
Le 04/12/2011 21:24, Jacob Carlborg a écrit :
>
> But the problem remains, CoffeeScript compiles to JavaScript so you are
> still limited by JS.
>
What about Lua ?
I find it pretty powerful for such a small language. And I do think it
makes sens to base a GUI on a scripting language. As for the c
"Jacob Carlborg" wrote in message
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>
> I think CoffeeScript works really well, it's been around a while and it's
> the default way to handle JavaScript in Rails 3.1 and later versions (SASS
> is the default way of handling CSS).
That seems slightly stran
On 12/3/2011 6:53 PM, Don wrote:
It's the things like:
is (foo bar == super)
which I think you can't understand without looking up the spec every time. We
still don't have a nice way of expressing such things.
I agree, but that's a low priority for now, because at least you can get work
done w
On 12/5/2011 2:51 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
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- hundreds of plugins
If it needs that many plug-ins then something is very, very wrong. For
example, maybe some of those should be built-in. And if you meant "hundreds"
literal
On 12/4/11 10:34 PM, Brad Anderson wrote:
What's the plan with doing I/O and other irreversible actions during
STM transactions then?
Andrei
One of the PyPy guys briefly answers this in the comments of this
article on the subject of PyPy and removal of the GIL.
http://morepypy.blog
On Sunday, December 04, 2011 23:41:08 dsimcha wrote:
> Thanks for the benchmark. I ended up deciding to just create a second
> function, rt_finalize_gc, that gets rid of a whole bunch of cruft that
> isn't necessary in the GC case. I think it's worth the small amount of
> code duplication it crea
Thanks for the benchmark. I ended up deciding to just create a second
function, rt_finalize_gc, that gets rid of a whole bunch of cruft that
isn't necessary in the GC case. I think it's worth the small amount of
code duplication it creates. Here are the results of my efforts so far:
https:/
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu <
seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org> wrote:
> On 12/4/11 3:51 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 2011-12-03 at 09:39 -0600, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/3/11 3:02 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
>>>
The PyPy JIT is clearly a "big win". I
dsimcha:
> I've stumbled on the fact that rt_finalize is
> taking up a ridiculous share of the time (~30% of total runtime) on a
> benchmark where huge numbers of classes **that don't have destructors**
> are being created and collected.
DMD or LDC/GDC compiler?
> extern (C) void rt_finalize
On 12/4/11 4:32 PM, Andrew Wiley wrote:
In that case, no object copying is occurring, and I have message
passing for immutable objects working, although my current solution is
basically to check whether the object is immutable, and if so, memcpy
the reference. That breaks immutability, but only f
On Mon, 05 Dec 2011 02:46:27 +0100, dsimcha wrote:
I'm at my traditional passtime of trying to speed up D's garbage
collector again, and I've stumbled on the fact that rt_finalize is
taking up a ridiculous share of the time (~30% of total runtime) on a
benchmark where huge numbers of class
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Timon Gehr wrote:
> On 12/04/2011 11:32 PM, Andrew Wiley wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/4/11 4:16 PM, Andrew Wiley wrote:
>>>
So it looks like right now, message passing is copying objects, which
Timon Gehr:
> It is not fully implemented and apparently Walter would like a different
> solution, because it is quite ugly.
Do you know why it is ugly?
Bye,
bearophile
On 11/26/2011 10:13 PM, Steve Teale wrote:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 15:31:33 -0800, bls wrote:
Hi Steve
First of all : I am sorry about my harsh words within my last reply. ---
I am afraid that this feedback is also not very gentle.
Picking up ODBC in order to figure out how an generic database Int
I'm at my traditional passtime of trying to speed up D's garbage
collector again, and I've stumbled on the fact that rt_finalize is
taking up a ridiculous share of the time (~30% of total runtime) on a
benchmark where huge numbers of classes **that don't have destructors**
are being created and
On 12/3/11, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
> If you have a considerably better proposal for std.signals
Johannes Pfau made an updated one, not me. And I'd rather use it for a
while and hack in new features when necessary and debug it properly
than shove it into phobos and make it another DOA module that
On 12/05/2011 02:16 AM, Graham St Jack wrote:
My vote is for something like immutable(Object) ref, as Andrew suggested
earlier. This would allow mutable references to immutable objects to be
passed through a message channel without nasty typecasting.
std.typecons.Rebindable has always been an ug
On Monday, December 05, 2011 11:46:29 Graham St Jack wrote:
> My vote is for something like immutable(Object) ref, as Andrew suggested
> earlier. This would allow mutable references to immutable objects to be
> passed through a message channel without nasty typecasting.
>
> std.typecons.Rebindable
My vote is for something like immutable(Object) ref, as Andrew suggested
earlier. This would allow mutable references to immutable objects to be
passed through a message channel without nasty typecasting.
std.typecons.Rebindable has always been an ugly hack that doesn't quite
do the job. Certa
On 12/04/2011 11:32 PM, Andrew Wiley wrote:
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 12/4/11 4:16 PM, Andrew Wiley wrote:
So it looks like right now, message passing is copying objects, which
seems very bad. Check this out:
import std.stdio;
import std.concurren
On 12/2/2011 2:33 PM, Marco Leise wrote:
http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=4ed9478e4fb7b0e4886eeea2
In general, behavior for things we don't know what to do with should be
"failure". Then, when we do figure out what to do with it, we don't break
existing code.
On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 19:53:59 +0100, Martin Nowak wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 23:33:34 +0100, Marco Leise
> wrote:
>
>> http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=4ed9478e4fb7b0e4886eeea2
>
> auto s = "[\.]"; => Error: undefined escape sequence.
> Do you actually mean r"[\.]" or `[\.]`?
He was refer
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
> On 12/4/11 4:16 PM, Andrew Wiley wrote:
>>
>> So it looks like right now, message passing is copying objects, which
>> seems very bad. Check this out:
>>
>> import std.stdio;
>> import std.concurrency;
>>
>> class Bob {
>> }
>>
On 12/4/11 4:16 PM, Andrew Wiley wrote:
So it looks like right now, message passing is copying objects, which
seems very bad. Check this out:
import std.stdio;
import std.concurrency;
class Bob {
}
void main() {
auto tid = spawn(&func);
auto bob = new shared(Bob)();
On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 06:26:39 -0800, Don wrote:
On 02.12.2011 22:02, Adam Wilson wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 11:29:18 -0800, Gour wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 10:56:41 -0800
"Adam Wilson" wrote:
Hello Adam,
Gour, I'd love to talk to you more about GUI's. I am new to D, but I
have spent year
On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 22:09:40 +0100, Peter Alexander
wrote:
On 4/12/11 6:47 PM, Martin Nowak wrote:
On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 14:40:47 +0100, Peter Alexander
wrote:
DMD outputs quite a few symbols that end with a Z. For example:
module test;
class Foo {}
Gives me these three symbols (all .data
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Andrew Wiley wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 1:42 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
>> On Sunday, December 04, 2011 01:24:02 Andrew Wiley wrote:
>>> This should work, right? I'm not just going crazy or something?
>>>
>>> import std.concurrency;
>>> import std.stdio;
>>>
There we go, into the bee's nest. I'll just keep quiet.
On 12/04/2011 09:56 PM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
On 12/4/11, Marco Leise wrote:
Hmm, and no one commented either. I thought someone would jump in and say
that you could disable the GC.
Right, I've heard this story before but has anyone actually tried
using D without the GC? I'm genuinely curiou
On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 17:00:44 +0200, Don wrote:
On 03.12.2011 15:30, so wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 22:58:32 +0200, Paulo Pinto
wrote:
Ah ok, I thought you were starting a "C above all" thread. :)
Well that would not be a discussion, would it?
Anyone against it? C is above all for the thing
On 12/4/11, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
> If Microsoft kills GDI and uses some DirectX/OpenGL backend for its GUI,
> then that will be the native GUI. Just because GDI/Win32 has been the
> native GUI for Windows doesn't mean it can't be replaced with a new
> native GUI.
My point was popular apps rarely
On 4/12/11 6:47 PM, Martin Nowak wrote:
On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 14:40:47 +0100, Peter Alexander
wrote:
DMD outputs quite a few symbols that end with a Z. For example:
module test;
class Foo {}
Gives me these three symbols (all .data)
00013680 D _D4test4Foo16__initZ
000136e0 D _D4test4Foo16__vtb
On 12/4/11, Marco Leise wrote:
> Hmm, and no one commented either. I thought someone would jump in and say
> that you could disable the GC.
Right, I've heard this story before but has anyone actually tried
using D without the GC? I'm genuinely curious. I'd also wonder how
usable D would be withou
Den 04-12-2011 12:05, Vladimir Panteleev skrev:
On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 12:59:15 +0200, Jonas Drewsen
wrote:
Den 03-12-2011 21:58, Vladimir Panteleev skrev:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 21:17:25 +0200, Jonas Drewsen
wrote:
The standard example is downloading some content and saving it at the
same time.
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 1:42 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
> On Sunday, December 04, 2011 01:24:02 Andrew Wiley wrote:
>> This should work, right? I'm not just going crazy or something?
>>
>> import std.concurrency;
>> import std.stdio;
>>
>> class Bob {
>> }
>>
>> void main() {
>> auto tid = spa
Jacob Carlborg Wrote:
> Maybe you should take a look at SASS, it has if-statements, for-loops,
Yea, I've looked at it before (and like some of the ideas - their lighten,
darken,
etc. functions are nice and I intend to implement them myself as I find the
time - see color.d in that github page.)
On 2011-12-04 21:17, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
Jacob Carlborg Wrote:
I hide JavaScript behind CoffeeScript, makes it a bit more usable.
If you like the idea there, but want something a lot more conservative,
in my html.d (in here:
https://github.com/adamdruppe/misc-stuff-including-D-programming-la
On 2011-12-04 21:13, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
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On 2011-12-04 18:11, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Yea. I do appreciate how it's able to do so much with such simplicity (if
you ignore the bizarre semicolon rules), but only in the
On 2011-12-04 20:53, Timon Gehr wrote:
On 12/04/2011 08:50 PM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2011-12-04 15:38, Marco Leise wrote:
Am 04.12.2011, 13:41 Uhr, schrieb Jacob Carlborg :
On 2011-12-02 22:40, Somedude wrote:
Yes, the IDE takes care of a lot of boilerplate code. It's ugly, but
it's hard
Jacob Carlborg Wrote:
> I hide JavaScript behind CoffeeScript, makes it a bit more usable.
If you like the idea there, but want something a lot more conservative,
in my html.d (in here:
https://github.com/adamdruppe/misc-stuff-including-D-programming-language-web-stuff
)
there's now a Javascript
"Jacob Carlborg" wrote in message
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> On 2011-12-04 18:11, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>> Yea. I do appreciate how it's able to do so much with such simplicity (if
>> you ignore the bizarre semicolon rules), but only in the same sense that
>> I
>> appreciate Bra
On 12/4/2011 5:08 AM, Norbert Nemec wrote:
Indeed, malloc is not real-time safe. It is common wisdom that real-time audio
code should not handle any memory allocations.
To this point, D is just as safe as C++: don't do any operations that may
allocate memory in the audio thread, so the GC will n
On 2011-12-04 18:11, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Yea. I do appreciate how it's able to do so much with such simplicity (if
you ignore the bizarre semicolon rules), but only in the same sense that I
appreciate Brainfuck for the same reason.
I hide JavaScript behind CoffeeScript, makes it a bit more u
On 2011-12-04 18:00, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
"Russel Winder" wrote in message
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On Sat, 2011-12-03 at 13:16 -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
[...]
A few thoughts based mainly from Python use perspective.
#1: wx: Because it uses nati
On 12/04/2011 08:50 PM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2011-12-04 15:38, Marco Leise wrote:
Am 04.12.2011, 13:41 Uhr, schrieb Jacob Carlborg :
On 2011-12-02 22:40, Somedude wrote:
Yes, the IDE takes care of a lot of boilerplate code. It's ugly, but
it's hardly a productivity issue. One other thing
On 2011-12-04 15:38, Marco Leise wrote:
Am 04.12.2011, 13:41 Uhr, schrieb Jacob Carlborg :
On 2011-12-02 22:40, Somedude wrote:
Yes, the IDE takes care of a lot of boilerplate code. It's ugly, but
it's hardly a productivity issue. One other thing that's cool is
refactoring is no longer an iss
Indeed, but here the issue is actually opposite: you *don't* want the GC
to know about the audio-thread.
On 04.12.2011 18:05, Sean Kelly wrote:
You can make the GC know about any thread you want. Look at thread_attachThis
and related routines in core.thread.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 4, 2
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 23:33:34 +0100, Marco Leise wrote:
http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=4ed9478e4fb7b0e4886eeea2
auto s = "[\.]"; => Error: undefined escape sequence.
Do you actually mean r"[\.]" or `[\.]`?
I assume you're on some sort of 10GB multi-core machine as most Java users
have to be on, in which case: 12 sec startup is ridiculously slow. Even on
2GB x64 dual-core, that's still very, very slow.
just to throw some numbers in. out of curiosity i have done a fresh
install of eclipse on an 2GB
On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 14:40:47 +0100, Peter Alexander
wrote:
DMD outputs quite a few symbols that end with a Z. For example:
module test;
class Foo {}
Gives me these three symbols (all .data)
00013680 D _D4test4Foo16__initZ
000136e0 D _D4test4Foo16__vtblZ
00013690 D _D4test4Foo17__ClassZ
I
"Russel Winder" wrote in message
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>On Sun, 2011-12-04 at 12:00 -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>[...]
>
>> >PyQt has an unfriendly licence for anyone wishing to
>> >make proprietary systems.
>>
>> I didn't know that. Do you know if th
"Somedude" wrote in message
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> Le 04/12/2011 03:40, Don a écrit :
>> If you work in an environment where practically all apps are fast,
>> Eclipse stands out as being slow. The startup time is particularly
>> striking.
>> I don't see any reason for this. Mo
On Sun, 2011-12-04 at 12:00 -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
[...]
> >PyQt has an unfriendly licence for anyone wishing to
> >make proprietary systems.
>
> I didn't know that. Do you know if that's specific to PyQt, or inhereted
> from Qt?
As David pointed out, PyQt stayed GPL and commercial licen
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> On 2011-12-02 17:38, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>> "Joshua Niehus" wrote in message
>> news:mailman.1243.1322814889.24802.digitalmar...@puremagic.com...
On 12/1/11 2:59 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 12/1/2011 2:42 A
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> On 2011-12-02 19:15, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>>
>> The hell with mobile, eh? Making things look and act the same on
>> everything
>> is *terrible* UI design. Making things look and act *appropriate* for the
>> given platf
On 12/4/11 6:00 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
PyQt has an unfriendly licence for anyone wishing to
make proprietary systems.
I didn't know that. Do you know if that's specific to PyQt, or inhereted
from Qt?
This is specific to PyQt, they stayed at GPL when Qt changed its open
source license to
You can make the GC know about any thread you want. Look at thread_attachThis
and related routines in core.thread.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 4, 2011, at 5:08 AM, Norbert Nemec wrote:
> On 04.12.2011 09:10, Marco Leise wrote:
>> Am 03.12.2011, 19:47 Uhr, schrieb Andrej Mitrovic
>> :
>>
>>> O
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On Sat, 2011-12-03 at 13:16 -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>[...]
>
>A few thoughts based mainly from Python use perspective.
>
>> #1: wx: Because it uses native controls on pretty much all platforms
Le 04/12/2011 15:45, Timon Gehr a écrit :
> On 12/04/2011 06:09 AM, Somedude wrote:
>> [...] And Emacs is slow to start as well. [...]
>
> oO? No. It is up and running in less than 0.3s. Have you tested it?
See ? I can be as wrong as Nick Sabalausky when I base my prejudice from
dated experience.
On 12/4/11 3:51 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
On Sat, 2011-12-03 at 09:39 -0600, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 12/3/11 3:02 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
The PyPy JIT is clearly a "big win". I am sure Armin will come up with
more stuff :-)
Do they do anything about the GIL?
Soon. Having failed to c
On 03.12.2011 15:30, so wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 22:58:32 +0200, Paulo Pinto
wrote:
Ah ok, I thought you were starting a "C above all" thread. :)
Well that would not be a discussion, would it?
Anyone against it? C is above all for the things it was developed,
simple as that.
I'm against
On 12/04/2011 06:09 AM, Somedude wrote:
[...] And Emacs is slow to start as well. [...]
oO? No. It is up and running in less than 0.3s. Have you tested it?
I woke up this morning, great dawn, with a prayer on my breath.
See, I lost something precious and you will help me, from losing myself.
I think I know what's wrong.
On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 16:33:52 +0200, Marco Leise wrote:
Am 04.12.2011, 14:02 Uhr, schrieb Jacob Carlborg :
On 2011-12-03 05:26, dsimcha wrote:
I volunteered ages ago to manage the review for the second round of
Jonas Drewsen's CURL wrapper. After the first round it was decided
that,
after a
Am 04.12.2011, 13:41 Uhr, schrieb Jacob Carlborg :
On 2011-12-02 22:40, Somedude wrote:
Yes, the IDE takes care of a lot of boilerplate code. It's ugly, but
it's hardly a productivity issue. One other thing that's cool is
refactoring is no longer an issue, like it is in C or C++. With powerful
Am 04.12.2011, 14:02 Uhr, schrieb Jacob Carlborg :
On 2011-12-03 05:26, dsimcha wrote:
I volunteered ages ago to manage the review for the second round of
Jonas Drewsen's CURL wrapper. After the first round it was decided that,
after a large number of minor issues were fixed, a second round wou
On 02.12.2011 22:02, Adam Wilson wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 11:29:18 -0800, Gour wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 10:56:41 -0800
"Adam Wilson" wrote:
Hello Adam,
Gour, I'd love to talk to you more about GUI's. I am new to D, but I
have spent years working with GUI toolkits and studying their
con
On 2011-12-04 06:09, Somedude wrote:
Le 04/12/2011 03:40, Don a écrit :
If you work in an environment where practically all apps are fast,
Eclipse stands out as being slow. The startup time is particularly
striking.
I don't see any reason for this. Mostly when you open an IDE you want to
first o
On 2011-12-03 19:34, Marco Leise wrote:
Am 03.12.2011, 19:20 Uhr, schrieb Nick Sabalausky :
FWIW, SWT would probably be somewhere in the top 3, definitely above qt
(because I *think* SWT is true native...?), but not sure how I'd rank it
compared to wx b/c I'd have to actually try them both out.
On 2011-12-03 19:20, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
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"Nick Sabalausky" wrote:
I agree the look of apps should be user-configurable, but that
belongs a
DMD outputs quite a few symbols that end with a Z. For example:
module test;
class Foo {}
Gives me these three symbols (all .data)
00013680 D _D4test4Foo16__initZ
000136e0 D _D4test4Foo16__vtblZ
00013690 D _D4test4Foo17__ClassZ
I have two questions:
1. I know what __init and __vtbl are, but
On 04.12.2011 09:10, Marco Leise wrote:
Am 03.12.2011, 19:47 Uhr, schrieb Andrej Mitrovic
:
On 12/3/11, Marco Leise wrote:
Am 03.12.2011, 19:05 Uhr, schrieb Andrej Mitrovic
:
+1 on interest on having this. Back when I was attempting to port VST
to D I got asked by a Steinberg dev how I can
On 2011-12-03 05:26, dsimcha wrote:
I volunteered ages ago to manage the review for the second round of
Jonas Drewsen's CURL wrapper. After the first round it was decided that,
after a large number of minor issues were fixed, a second round would be
necessary.
Significant open issues:
1. Should
On 2011-12-03 02:44, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
Walter Bright Wrote:
It's too bad there's no way to 'bind' arbitrary data to shared executable
library files
Would using the resource compiler work on Windows? I'm pretty sure dlls
have icon resources just like exes, so having a string resource in ther
On 04.12.2011 12:53, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2011-12-03 19:05, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
+1 on interest on having this. Back when I was attempting to port VST
to D I got asked by a Steinberg dev how I can guarantee that D plugins
will work. But I couldn't guarantee it, if a GC collection were to r
On 2011-12-03 00:24, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
On 12/2/11, Walter Bright wrote:
Consider that existing successful GUI libraries have had *enormous*
resources poured into them.
I think a vast majority of that time was spent dealing with
OS-specific bugs due to the requirement that widgets must lo
On 2011-12-02 23:57, Walter Bright wrote:
On 12/2/2011 2:15 PM, Adam Wilson wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 12:15:55 -0800, Walter Bright
wrote:
On 12/2/2011 11:29 AM, Gour wrote:
Moreover, developing something from the scratch woudl require enormous
amount of time in comparison with *just* provi
On 2011-12-02 22:40, Somedude wrote:
Yes, the IDE takes care of a lot of boilerplate code. It's ugly, but
it's hardly a productivity issue. One other thing that's cool is
refactoring is no longer an issue, like it is in C or C++. With powerful
IDEs, you can refactor without fearing too much regr
On 2011-12-02 21:50, Timon Gehr wrote:
On 12/02/2011 09:44 PM, Timon Gehr wrote:
Except that _Eclipse_ does not do anything to achieve this. It just
invokes ant, which invokes javac, which is presumably written in C and
C++.
Seems like I was wrong about this.
Eclipse has its own Java compil
On 2011-12-02 21:04, Somedude wrote:
Le 30/11/2011 08:45, Jacob Carlborg a écrit :
Seems they complaining about libraries and the tool chain. I don't
understand the problem, just use the Java libraries. About the language,
shouldn't it be possible to just use the parts of Scala that also exists
On 2011-12-02 20:54, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Actually, I absolutely hate WinAmp (and all programs that are entirely
skinned). And WinAmp in particular is super butt-ugly. *And* the UI overall,
esp. the library, is screwy (read: buggy and poorly architected) as all
hell. iTunes is irritatinnly all-
On 2011-12-02 19:15, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
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On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 04:33:48 -0800, a wrote:
QML looks like it is (currently ?) targeted at the kind of GUI
programming when you make your own custom widgets for everythin
On 2011-12-03 19:05, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
+1 on interest on having this. Back when I was attempting to port VST
to D I got asked by a Steinberg dev how I can guarantee that D plugins
will work. But I couldn't guarantee it, if a GC collection were to run
the plugin would freeze, the host would c
On 04.12.2011 12:02, Somedude wrote:
Le 27/11/2011 18:41, alex a écrit :
Oh, another advantage of a real forum: you can ban users based on their
IP. Would be good for drunkards like SteveD alias Abraham alias Peter.
I'm not a huge fan of banning, but I was just thinking the same thing...
It d
On 2011-12-02 17:38, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
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On 12/1/11 2:59 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 12/1/2011 2:42 AM, Gour wrote:
I'd like to help with GUI bindings if D community would come more close
toge
well, fuck it, not to make it ok, of course I hate you but you have been
hated thousands of years. I should hate you more than I do. The more I
learn about you, the more I do.
On 2011-12-02 15:13, Bernard Helyer wrote:
I don't need to share GC memory across instances or anything,
but I would be interested in using a C interface if possible.
If not, what's blocking it. If yes, how would one initialise
the runtime? I know there's a Windows DLL article on the website,
bu
On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 12:59:15 +0200, Jonas Drewsen
wrote:
Den 03-12-2011 21:58, Vladimir Panteleev skrev:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 21:17:25 +0200, Jonas Drewsen
wrote:
The standard example is downloading some content and saving it at the
same time.
While your main thread saves a chunk to disk (
> #84,259,254: gtk: Because it doesn't give a rat's ass about native anything,
> plus it's just plain ugly (read: big-n-chunky) on all platforms, even Gnome.
Using XFCE right now, looks fine to me.
Le 27/11/2011 18:41, alex a écrit :
Oh, another advantage of a real forum: you can ban users based on their
IP. Would be good for drunkards like SteveD alias Abraham alias Peter.
Den 03-12-2011 21:58, Vladimir Panteleev skrev:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 21:17:25 +0200, Jonas Drewsen
wrote:
Den 03-12-2011 13:10, Vladimir Panteleev skrev:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 13:53:16 +0200, Jonas Drewsen
wrote:
As mentioned the async version performs the request in another thread
leaving th
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