Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-24 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 23 January 2016 at 18:58:21 UTC, Artur Skawina wrote: On 01/23/16 02:11, ronaldmc via Digitalmars-d wrote: Linux development works because Linus is right often enough. It really is that simple. But I also think Linus weighs different solutions (and implementations and

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-24 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 23 January 2016 at 00:30:17 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: got this strange notion from. Walter is the one who invented this language, and he has been generous enough to let the rest of us participate in its development. Yes, I agree with this. If anything, bringing too much democracy

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-24 Thread anonymous via Digitalmars-d
On 22.01.2016 00:46, anonymous wrote: http://i.imgur.com/eJaKFtx.png [...] For dlang.org, I'd choose the version with the wide background arc. I think it looks nice on the menu bar, and it puts a little more emphasis there than just the core shape. But just the core shape looks fine, too. I

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-24 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 24 January 2016 at 13:03:36 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: Meritocracy is not a horrible concept though. Err, type. I meant to say that is a horrible concept. It is better than seniority, but makes no sense outside a hierarchical power structure IMO.

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-23 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 2016-01-22 00:46, anonymous wrote: http://i.imgur.com/eJaKFtx.png The first one is the current logo. The last one shows just the core shape (D + moons), of course. I vote the last one as the official out of context logo. I vote the third one for the web site. -- /Jacob Carlborg

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-23 Thread Mike Parker via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 23 January 2016 at 01:23:20 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: This is not the governance of a country. If you don't like the way the decisions are being made, you always have the freedom to take the source code (except for the proprietary backend), fork it, and build your own community.

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-23 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
I always wanted it to be a gif so the planet would appear to be subtly rotating and the edge of Deimos might twinkle slightly :-)

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-23 Thread Artur Skawina via Digitalmars-d
On 01/23/16 02:11, ronaldmc via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > What happens if a technical feature is vetoed by someone is charge even if it > has merit? Every wrong decision affects the project negatively. > Linux Foundation has a board members to approve or not new features or > changes, and

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-23 Thread karabuta via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 23 January 2016 at 08:25:49 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: I always wanted it to be a gif so the planet would appear to be subtly rotating and the edge of Deimos might twinkle slightly :-) If it was meant to be a git then it makes more sense why it was as it is originally (but

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-23 Thread karabuta via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 22 January 2016 at 20:28:57 UTC, anonymous wrote: On 22.01.2016 20:53, ronaldmc wrote: I don't want to start a war, but this isn't community? I mean aren't we trying to make things better, because the way you said it seems like a dictatorship. It's dictatorship insofar as Walter

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-23 Thread ronaldmc via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 23 January 2016 at 01:23:20 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: ... And besides, calling something a "dictatorship" is again confusing the development of a programming language with running a government. I still fail to see the connection between the two. Because maybe you don't read too

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-23 Thread rsw0x via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 23 January 2016 at 15:41:43 UTC, ronaldmc wrote: On Saturday, 23 January 2016 at 01:23:20 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: [...] Because maybe you don't read too much (outside programming), you can easily find the term being used on open source. i.e:

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-23 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 1/23/2016 11:47 AM, karabuta wrote: On Saturday, 23 January 2016 at 08:25:49 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: I always wanted it to be a gif so the planet would appear to be subtly rotating and the edge of Deimos might twinkle slightly :-) If it was meant to be a git then it makes more sense why

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-22 Thread Wyatt via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 22 January 2016 at 00:04:33 UTC, tsbockman wrote: On Thursday, 21 January 2016 at 23:49:39 UTC, cym13 wrote: On Thursday, 21 January 2016 at 23:46:26 UTC, anonymous wrote: The logo is repeatedly being called out as a weak spot of the D brand. But so far Walter has been adamant about

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-22 Thread anonymous via Digitalmars-d
On 22.01.2016 20:53, ronaldmc wrote: I don't want to start a war, but this isn't community? I mean aren't we trying to make things better, because the way you said it seems like a dictatorship. It's dictatorship insofar as Walter and Andrei have veto power. If they don't want something in, it

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-22 Thread ronaldmc via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 22 January 2016 at 20:28:57 UTC, anonymous wrote: And of all things, the logo wouldn't be a good reason to divide over, in my opinion. No, of course not. But I've saw something like this with features to be added on the language, like for example 300+ discussion thread with

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-22 Thread rsw0x via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 22 January 2016 at 20:28:57 UTC, anonymous wrote: On 22.01.2016 20:53, ronaldmc wrote: I don't want to start a war, but this isn't community? I mean aren't we trying to make things better, because the way you said it seems like a dictatorship. It's dictatorship insofar as Walter

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-22 Thread ixid via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 22 January 2016 at 19:53:32 UTC, ronaldmc wrote: On Thursday, 21 January 2016 at 23:46:26 UTC, anonymous wrote: The logo is repeatedly being called out as a weak spot of the D brand. But so far Walter has been adamant about keeping it the way it is. I don't want to start a war,

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-22 Thread sclytrack via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 22 January 2016 at 20:28:57 UTC, anonymous wrote: On 22.01.2016 20:53, ronaldmc wrote: I don't want to start a war, but this isn't community? I mean aren't we trying to make things better, because the way you said it seems like a dictatorship. It's dictatorship insofar as Walter

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-22 Thread ronaldmc via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 21 January 2016 at 23:46:26 UTC, anonymous wrote: The logo is repeatedly being called out as a weak spot of the D brand. But so far Walter has been adamant about keeping it the way it is. I don't want to start a war, but this isn't community? I mean aren't we trying to make

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-22 Thread anonymous via Digitalmars-d
On 22.01.2016 16:48, WebFreak001 wrote: (First I have fixed these weird curves on the D's bottom left and top left corner.) What's weird about them? As far as I see, you made the corners more pointed, though it's hard to tell at that size. I'm not sure if that's an improvement.

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-22 Thread WebFreak001 via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 22 January 2016 at 19:00:41 UTC, anonymous wrote: On 22.01.2016 16:48, WebFreak001 wrote: (First I have fixed these weird curves on the D's bottom left and top left corner.) What's weird about them? As far as I see, you made the corners more pointed, though it's hard to tell at

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-22 Thread anonymous via Digitalmars-d
On 22.01.2016 20:08, WebFreak001 wrote: Original: https://i.imgur.com/6M1Eoy2.png Fixed: https://i.imgur.com/uLuUgJY.png :D Yeah, uhm, that's totally an improvement, of course.

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-22 Thread ixid via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 21 January 2016 at 23:46:26 UTC, anonymous wrote: The logo is repeatedly being called out as a weak spot of the D brand. But so far Walter has been adamant about keeping it the way it is. I certainly agree the logo is weak, to me the planets look more like a bad lens flare

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-22 Thread WebFreak001 via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 21 January 2016 at 23:46:26 UTC, anonymous wrote: For dlang.org, I'd choose the version with the wide background arc. I think it looks nice on the menu bar, and it puts a little more emphasis there than just the core shape. But just the core shape looks fine, too. For me its a

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-22 Thread H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 09:26:12PM +, ronaldmc via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Friday, 22 January 2016 at 20:28:57 UTC, anonymous wrote: > >And of all things, the logo wouldn't be a good reason to divide over, > >in my opinion. > > No, of course not. But I've saw something like this with

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-22 Thread anonymous via Digitalmars-d
On 22.01.2016 20:08, WebFreak001 wrote: Original: https://i.imgur.com/6M1Eoy2.png Fixed: https://i.imgur.com/uLuUgJY.png Can you post the fixed SVG code, so that I can update my stuff?

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-22 Thread Brad Anderson via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 22 January 2016 at 15:48:04 UTC, WebFreak001 wrote: On Friday, 22 January 2016 at 15:25:25 UTC, anonymous wrote: Here's the SVG. Go crazy. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/421e80748f1c885f7620 (First I have fixed these weird curves on the D's bottom left and top left corner.)

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-22 Thread Marc Schütz via Digitalmars-d
For the website, definitely number 3. As a standalone version, the fourth one can be used. Or if we insist on the "horizon" arc, maybe a version can be made that fades out the arc much closer to the "D", so that the entire logo fits into a nearly-square rectangle.

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-22 Thread anonymous via Digitalmars-d
On 22.01.2016 15:44, WebFreak001 wrote: However I dont have an SVG for that and I basically just used the logo from the imgur screenshot, cut of a rounded rectangle (5px border radius) and added a simple box shadow (0px 1px 3px rgba(0,0,0,0.3)) Here's the SVG. Go crazy.

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-22 Thread Gary Willoughby via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 21 January 2016 at 23:46:26 UTC, anonymous wrote: The logo is repeatedly being called out as a weak spot of the D brand. But so far Walter has been adamant about keeping it the way it is. I agree with him that changing it to a completely different one would probably not be a

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-22 Thread WebFreak001 via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 22 January 2016 at 15:25:25 UTC, anonymous wrote: Here's the SVG. Go crazy. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/421e80748f1c885f7620 (First I have fixed these weird curves on the D's bottom left and top left corner.) OK I have cropped it now and also tried to add a slight box

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-22 Thread WebFreak001 via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 22 January 2016 at 14:26:21 UTC, Marc Schütz wrote: For the website, definitely number 3. As a standalone version, the fourth one can be used. Or if we insist on the "horizon" arc, maybe a version can be made that fades out the arc much closer to the "D", so that the entire logo

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-22 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 22 January 2016 at 00:04:33 UTC, tsbockman wrote: On Thursday, 21 January 2016 at 23:49:39 UTC, cym13 wrote: On Thursday, 21 January 2016 at 23:46:26 UTC, anonymous wrote: The logo is repeatedly being called out as a weak spot of the D brand. But so far Walter has been adamant about

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-22 Thread ronaldmc via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 23 January 2016 at 00:30:17 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: ... What ought to rule in a programming language is technical merit, not popularity. What happens if a technical feature is vetoed by someone is charge even if it has merit? And you're comparing Apples vs Oranges with the rest

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-22 Thread H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d
On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 01:11:20AM +, ronaldmc via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Saturday, 23 January 2016 at 00:30:17 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: > >... What ought to rule in a programming language is technical merit, > >not popularity. > > What happens if a technical feature is vetoed by someone is

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-21 Thread cym13 via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 21 January 2016 at 23:46:26 UTC, anonymous wrote: The logo is repeatedly being called out as a weak spot of the D brand. But so far Walter has been adamant about keeping it the way it is. [...] I love the third one from the top, it is close enough from the official logo to

[dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-21 Thread anonymous via Digitalmars-d
The logo is repeatedly being called out as a weak spot of the D brand. But so far Walter has been adamant about keeping it the way it is. I agree with him that changing it to a completely different one would probably not be a good move, losing whatever brand recognition we have. But I think

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-21 Thread tsbockman via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 21 January 2016 at 23:49:39 UTC, cym13 wrote: On Thursday, 21 January 2016 at 23:46:26 UTC, anonymous wrote: The logo is repeatedly being called out as a weak spot of the D brand. But so far Walter has been adamant about keeping it the way it is. [...] I love the third one

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-21 Thread Bubbasaur via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 21 January 2016 at 23:46:26 UTC, anonymous wrote: ... For me the last one. It's simple and clear. I really don't think the currently Logo is good for the new layout, I really dislike the black border. I don't know what the big deal with changing the Logo, since any big

Re: [dlang.org] Let's talk about the logo

2016-01-21 Thread rsw0x via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 21 January 2016 at 23:46:26 UTC, anonymous wrote: ... bottom two are the best. mixing matte and glossy is just *ugly*