Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-28 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 28/06/15 00:25, Jonathan M Davis wrote: I thought that 10.6 was the one that we dropped support for because it didn't support TLS or something like that. That's true, only 10.7 and later supports TLS. But we're still using emulated TLS, so it doesn't matter. LDC, which is using native

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-27 Thread Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d
On 27/06/2015 4:09 a.m., Dicebot wrote: Judging purely by feature set, Win 10 looks first Windows ever which will actually be usable for work. At least it will have multiple desktops Fun fact: WinAPI has pretty much always supported multiple desktops. The UI just didn't support changing

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-27 Thread Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d
On 26 June 2015 at 09:29, Iain Buclaw ibuc...@gdcproject.org wrote: On 26 Jun 2015 09:28, Iain Buclaw ibuc...@gdcproject.org wrote: On 25 Jun 2015 12:16, ponce via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Wednesday, 24 June 2015 at 16:10:44 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-27 Thread Kagamin via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 27 June 2015 at 06:39:18 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote: Also, does cv2pdb support converting D specific CV symbols? Ping, is there any program that understands these symbols? http://dlang.org/abi.html#codeview Ddbg is a dead link, and all I can find is a dead 'Ddbg successor' on

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-27 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 27/06/15 03:35, Jonathan M Davis wrote: And even then, we might support fewer versions (e.g. IIRC, we don't support all of the versions of Mac OS X that Apple does due to issues with what the OS itself supported). I'm not exactly sure which version we officially support but I'm pretty

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-27 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 27 June 2015 at 20:35:02 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 27/06/15 03:35, Jonathan M Davis wrote: And even then, we might support fewer versions (e.g. IIRC, we don't support all of the versions of Mac OS X that Apple does due to issues with what the OS itself supported). I'm not

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-26 Thread Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d
On 25 Jun 2015 12:16, ponce via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Wednesday, 24 June 2015 at 16:10:44 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/server-cloud/products/windows-server-2003/ Which means that (strictly speaking), in 3 weeks time, there will be *no*

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-26 Thread Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d
On 26 Jun 2015 09:28, Iain Buclaw ibuc...@gdcproject.org wrote: On 25 Jun 2015 12:16, ponce via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Wednesday, 24 June 2015 at 16:10:44 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/server-cloud/products/windows-server-2003/

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-26 Thread rsw0x via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 20:10:30 UTC, Dmitry Olshansky wrote: On 25-Jun-2015 23:06, Steven Schveighoffer wrote: On 6/25/15 3:58 PM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 25/06/15 18:46, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Heh, that's awesome actually :) Got a source for that? Windows 8 was a big failure.

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-26 Thread Dmitry Olshansky via Digitalmars-d
On 26-Jun-2015 10:35, rsw0x wrote: On Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 20:10:30 UTC, Dmitry Olshansky wrote: On 25-Jun-2015 23:06, Steven Schveighoffer wrote: On 6/25/15 3:58 PM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 25/06/15 18:46, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Heh, that's awesome actually :) Got a source for that?

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-26 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 26 June 2015 at 10:40:25 UTC, Dejan Lekic wrote: I do not know about others, but I am using XP, and have no plan to move to something else any time soon. However, I am using it rarely, in a VM, whenever I need to test something on Windows. I have no plan of buying a newer Windows. I

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-26 Thread Kapps via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 19:58:14 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 25/06/15 18:46, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Heh, that's awesome actually :) Got a source for that? Windows 8 was a big failure. Windows 10 is looking much better, I think it will get a much higher adaption rate. Off-topic,

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-26 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
On 06/25/2015 04:06 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote: On 6/25/15 3:58 PM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 25/06/15 18:46, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Heh, that's awesome actually :) Got a source for that? Windows 8 was a big failure. Windows 10 is looking much better, I think it will get a much higher

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-26 Thread Dicebot via Digitalmars-d
Judging purely by feature set, Win 10 looks first Windows ever which will actually be usable for work. At least it will have multiple desktops and primitive package management. And no, Windows XP was not usable by any means. It isn't a good enough reason to switch back to Windows though :)

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-26 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
On 06/26/2015 07:26 AM, weaselcat wrote: Might as well just use wine, it's pretty darn good nowadays. Relatively speaking. I'm definitely glad to have it, but I still have occasional problems with it, with various programs. For example, I had to give up my favorite code editor because of

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-26 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
On 06/26/2015 07:31 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote: Well, be aware that we don't officially support XP and haven't for a while. Odds are, it'll work in most cases, but there may be functionality in druntime or Phobos which relies on system calls added to Windows in Vista. So, while you're obviously

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-26 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
On 06/26/2015 07:34 AM, Dmitry Olshansky wrote: On 26-Jun-2015 10:35, rsw0x wrote: On Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 20:10:30 UTC, Dmitry Olshansky wrote: AFAIK they found that way too many apps do checks like: if(windowsVersion.startsWith(Windows 9){ // use crappy legacy-compatible code } else{

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-26 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
On 06/26/2015 12:09 PM, Dicebot wrote: Judging purely by feature set, Win 10 looks first Windows ever which will actually be usable for work. It'll still look like unicorn vomit, though. And they don't let you change that anymore. And MS doesn't let you reconfigure much these days, so you

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-26 Thread data man via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 24 June 2015 at 16:10:44 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote: [...] Win Xp, 7, 8, 10, ... ReactOS - This Is The Future! :-) http://reactos.org

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-26 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 26 June 2015 at 16:45:45 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On 06/26/2015 07:31 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote: Well, be aware that we don't officially support XP and haven't for a while. Odds are, it'll work in most cases, but there may be functionality in druntime or Phobos which relies on

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-26 Thread Dejan Lekic via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 24 June 2015 at 16:10:44 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/server-cloud/products/windows-server-2003/ Which means that (strictly speaking), in 3 weeks time, there will be *no* operating system that supports CodeView debugging. This is an elongated way of

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-26 Thread weaselcat via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 26 June 2015 at 10:40:25 UTC, Dejan Lekic wrote: On Wednesday, 24 June 2015 at 16:10:44 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote: [...] I do not know about others, but I am using XP, and have no plan to move to something else any time soon. However, I am using it rarely, in a VM, whenever I need

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-25 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 25/06/15 18:46, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Heh, that's awesome actually :) Got a source for that? Windows 8 was a big failure. Windows 10 is looking much better, I think it will get a much higher adaption rate. -- /Jacob Carlborg

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-25 Thread Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d
On 6/24/15 12:10 PM, Iain Buclaw wrote: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/server-cloud/products/windows-server-2003/ Which means that (strictly speaking), in 3 weeks time, there will be *no* operating system that supports CodeView debugging. This is an elongated way of asking Can I remove -gc

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-25 Thread Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d
On 6/25/15 3:58 PM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 25/06/15 18:46, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Heh, that's awesome actually :) Got a source for that? Windows 8 was a big failure. Windows 10 is looking much better, I think it will get a much higher adaption rate. With their track record of every

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-25 Thread ponce via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 24 June 2015 at 16:10:44 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/server-cloud/products/windows-server-2003/ Which means that (strictly speaking), in 3 weeks time, there will be *no* operating system that supports CodeView debugging. This is an elongated way of

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-25 Thread Dmitry Olshansky via Digitalmars-d
On 25-Jun-2015 23:06, Steven Schveighoffer wrote: On 6/25/15 3:58 PM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 25/06/15 18:46, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Heh, that's awesome actually :) Got a source for that? Windows 8 was a big failure. Windows 10 is looking much better, I think it will get a much higher

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-25 Thread Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d
On 6/25/15 4:10 PM, Dmitry Olshansky wrote: On 25-Jun-2015 23:06, Steven Schveighoffer wrote: On 6/25/15 3:58 PM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 25/06/15 18:46, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Heh, that's awesome actually :) Got a source for that? Windows 8 was a big failure. Windows 10 is looking much

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-25 Thread Kagamin via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 13:53:40 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote: And server OS migration moves much slower usually. Is it so? Do you mean windows server OS specifically?

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-25 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 13:53:40 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote: On 6/24/15 12:10 PM, Iain Buclaw wrote: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/server-cloud/products/windows-server-2003/ Which means that (strictly speaking), in 3 weeks time, there will be *no* operating system that supports

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-25 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
On 06/25/2015 09:53 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote: XP still has more market share right now than Windows 8.1, and that was EOL in April 2014. Heh, that's awesome actually :) Got a source for that?

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-25 Thread Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d
On 6/25/15 12:46 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On 06/25/2015 09:53 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote: XP still has more market share right now than Windows 8.1, and that was EOL in April 2014. Heh, that's awesome actually :) Got a source for that?

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-25 Thread Kagamin via Digitalmars-d
http://www.quora.com/What-is-the-windows-server-market-share-by-version Can't find any info on it.

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-25 Thread Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d
On 6/25/15 11:27 AM, Kagamin wrote: On Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 13:53:40 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote: And server OS migration moves much slower usually. Is it so? Do you mean windows server OS specifically? I mean people who are in charge of maintaining company-wide systems that are

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-25 Thread Kagamin via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 16:05:57 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote: I mean people who are in charge of maintaining company-wide systems that are expensive to upgrade do not upgrade their equipment or OS as often as those who buy desktops/laptops. To upgrade from XP you need to upgrade

Re: End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-25 Thread Kagamin via Digitalmars-d
cv2pdb?

End of life for Windows Server 2003 R2 is July 14, 2015

2015-06-24 Thread Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/server-cloud/products/windows-server-2003/ Which means that (strictly speaking), in 3 weeks time, there will be *no* operating system that supports CodeView debugging. This is an elongated way of asking Can I remove -gc yet? But as I'm not a Windows user,