On Thursday, 30 October 2014 at 13:04:26 UTC, First Try wrote:
1.) ADD Windows import of the C headers.
2.) ADD libraries such as Database and Gui
3.) Get a Scanner/Parser Generator going such as Antlr or Coco/r
Actually, with DFL and Pegged I'm easily building Windows GUI
apps now that use
On Thursday, 30 October 2014 at 17:11:40 UTC, First Try wrote:
If it wouldn't be impolite, i'd say that you are full of shit.
You are betraying people into believing that crap and because
of people like you, they will waste a lot of time.
All to be found is half-baked stuff - most of it
On Thursday, 30 October 2014 at 17:11:40 UTC, First Try wrote:
On Thursday, 30 October 2014 at 16:48:23 UTC, Gary Willoughby
wrote:
On Thursday, 30 October 2014 at 13:04:26 UTC, First Try wrote:
1.) ADD Windows import of the C headers.
2.) ADD libraries such as Database and Gui
3.) Get a
On Wednesday, 17 September 2014 at 15:41:02 UTC, Peter Alexander
wrote:
On Wednesday, 17 September 2014 at 14:59:48 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu wrote:
Awesome. Suggestion in order to leverage crowdsourcing: first
focus on setting up the test bed such that adding benchmarks
is easy. Then you and
On Thursday, 18 September 2014 at 03:25:19 UTC, deadalnix wrote:
On Thursday, 18 September 2014 at 02:54:33 UTC, Isaac Gouy
wrote:
On Thursday, 18 September 2014 at 00:59:41 UTC, Vladimir
Panteleev wrote:
Rule 34
Rule #34 There is porn of it. No exceptions.
They refer to checked or
On Thursday, 30 October 2014 at 10:24:56 UTC, eles wrote:
On Thursday, 18 September 2014 at 03:25:19 UTC, deadalnix wrote:
On Thursday, 18 September 2014 at 02:54:33 UTC, Isaac Gouy
wrote:
On Thursday, 18 September 2014 at 00:59:41 UTC, Vladimir
Panteleev wrote:
Rule 34
Rule #34 There is
1.) ADD Windows import of the C headers.
2.) ADD libraries such as Database and Gui
3.) Get a Scanner/Parser Generator going such as Antlr or Coco/r
For now I had to deinstall 'D' again and i guess a lot of other
people will do the same.
On Thursday, 30 October 2014 at 13:04:26 UTC, First Try wrote:
1.) ADD Windows import of the C headers.
2.) ADD libraries such as Database and Gui
3.) Get a Scanner/Parser Generator going such as Antlr or Coco/r
For now I had to deinstall 'D' again and i guess a lot of other
people will do the
On Thursday, 30 October 2014 at 16:48:23 UTC, Gary Willoughby
wrote:
On Thursday, 30 October 2014 at 13:04:26 UTC, First Try wrote:
1.) ADD Windows import of the C headers.
2.) ADD libraries such as Database and Gui
3.) Get a Scanner/Parser Generator going such as Antlr or
Coco/r
For now I
On Thursday, 30 October 2014 at 17:11:40 UTC, First Try wrote:
On Thursday, 30 October 2014 at 16:48:23 UTC, Gary Willoughby
wrote:
On Thursday, 30 October 2014 at 13:04:26 UTC, First Try wrote:
You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
Hey,
What about describing a bit more in detail the
On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 17:11:39 +
First Try via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
If it wouldn't be impolite, i'd say that you are full of shit.
You are betraying people into believing that crap and because of
people like you, they will waste a lot of time.
All to be found is
On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 21:04 +, Peter Alexander via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
[…]
I'll take a stab at it. Will give me something to do on my
commute :-) (assuming his scripts work, or can be made to work
on OS X).
I started doing something similar for Groovy a while back (with
@CompileStatic,
Andrei Alexandrescu:
https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13487
If the upload conditions and site are sufficiently good I am
willing to offer some implementations in D and to keep them
updated. I suggest to add two D versions for some benchmarks, one
that shows short high level code,
On Wednesday, 17 September 2014 at 06:59:40 UTC, bearophile wrote:
Andrei Alexandrescu:
https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13487
If the upload conditions and site are sufficiently good I am
willing to offer some implementations in D and to keep them
updated. I suggest to add two D
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 09:57:02 +
Peter Alexander via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
* CTFE version! (I imagine this will choke on most benchmarks
though...)
nope. it's not compile time that measured, it's execution time. so D
will tear apart any other language in this
Peter Alexander:
* Direct translation from the C++ version.
* High-level version using standard library, particularly ranges
(this should be @safe!)
* Low-level hand optimized using core.simd (when applicable).
* CTFE version! (I imagine this will choke on most benchmarks
though...)
The
On 9/16/14, 11:59 PM, bearophile wrote:
Andrei Alexandrescu:
https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13487
If the upload conditions and site are sufficiently good I am willing to
offer some implementations in D and to keep them updated. I suggest to
add two D versions for some benchmarks,
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 07:46:00AM -0700, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
On 9/16/14, 11:59 PM, bearophile wrote:
Andrei Alexandrescu:
https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13487
If the upload conditions and site are sufficiently good I am willing
to offer some
On 9/17/14, 2:57 AM, Peter Alexander wrote:
This is what I intend to do (time permitting)
* Direct translation from the C++ version.
* High-level version using standard library, particularly ranges
(this should be @safe!)
* Low-level hand optimized using core.simd (when applicable).
* CTFE
On Wednesday, 17 September 2014 at 14:59:48 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu wrote:
Awesome. Suggestion in order to leverage crowdsourcing: first
focus on setting up the test bed such that adding benchmarks is
easy. Then you and others can add a bunch of benchmarks.
Yep, sounds like a plan.
On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 07:46 -0700, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
[…]
Let's do it all on the github repo. Add a directory e.g.
tools/benchmarks/ and organize things in there.
A DVCS repository is clearly the correct infrastructure for this, but
perhaps it should be a separate
On 9/17/14, 8:59 AM, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 07:46 -0700, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
[…]
Let's do it all on the github repo. Add a directory e.g.
tools/benchmarks/ and organize things in there.
A DVCS repository is clearly the correct
On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 09:30 -0700, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
[…]
Nothing wrong with starting small and moving later to a larger pond when
the need arises. Let's just get this started without worrying too much
about minutia. -- Andrei
OK so to the minutiae :-) which
On Wednesday, 17 September 2014 at 14:45:59 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu wrote:
On 9/16/14, 11:59 PM, bearophile wrote:
Andrei Alexandrescu:
https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13487
If the upload conditions and site are sufficiently good I am
willing to
offer some implementations in D
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 06:45:21PM +0100, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 09:30 -0700, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
[…]
Nothing wrong with starting small and moving later to a larger pond
when the need arises. Let's just get this started without
On Wednesday, 17 September 2014 at 14:59:48 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu wrote:
Awesome. Suggestion in order to leverage crowdsourcing: first
focus on setting up the test bed such that adding benchmarks is
easy. Then you and others can add a bunch of benchmarks.
On a somewhat related note, I've
On Wednesday, 17 September 2014 at 18:30:37 UTC, David Nadlinger
wrote:
On Wednesday, 17 September 2014 at 14:59:48 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu wrote:
Awesome. Suggestion in order to leverage crowdsourcing: first
focus on setting up the test bed such that adding benchmarks
is easy. Then you and
On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 17:50 +, bachmeier via Digitalmars-d wrote:
[…]
which has gotten a lot of attention. It uses Python. I'd like to
write D versions of the programs to demonstrate that you can have
a language that's both nicer than Python and much, much faster.
You can no longer bet on
On Wednesday, 17 September 2014 at 18:58:20 UTC, Peter Alexander
wrote:
I imagine what you have could probably be extended to do
comparisons with other languages,
Not really. Well, I could always add some sort of reference
functionality to compare the results to equivalent C++/…
On Wednesday, 17 September 2014 at 18:30:37 UTC, David Nadlinger
wrote:
-snip-
On a somewhat related note, I've been working on a CI system to
keep tabs on the compile-time/run-time performance, memory
usage and file size for our compilers.
Maybe you've seen Emery Berger's work on
On 9/17/14, 10:45 AM, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 09:30 -0700, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
[…]
Nothing wrong with starting small and moving later to a larger pond when
the need arises. Let's just get this started without worrying too much
about
On Tuesday, 16 September 2014 at 05:27:15 UTC, Isaac Gouy wrote:
On Tuesday, 16 September 2014 at 02:20:18 UTC, Freddy wrote:
What The D community do wrong in the first place?
Nothing. There are just too many language implementations. It
takes more time than I choose to donate. Been there;
On Thursday, 18 September 2014 at 00:59:41 UTC, Vladimir
Panteleev wrote:
-snip-
Off-topic question: I've been wondering, how do you magically
appear here every time the Shootout is mentioned?
Google magic.
The project was renamed 6 years ago, it's the benchmarks game.
Google shootout and
On Thursday, 18 September 2014 at 02:54:33 UTC, Isaac Gouy wrote:
On Thursday, 18 September 2014 at 00:59:41 UTC, Vladimir
Panteleev wrote:
-snip-
Off-topic question: I've been wondering, how do you magically
appear here every time the Shootout is mentioned?
Google magic.
The project was
On Monday, 15 September 2014 at 20:09:31 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:
http://learnxinyminutes.com/
On Monday, 18 November 2013 at 12:38:31 UTC, anonymous wrote:
I had a go at it a while ago, but I lost interest. Here's what
I came up with: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7527033. If
anyone
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 20:37:50 -0700
Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com
wrote:
Isaac removed D for ease of maintenance reasons and a few in the
community rushed to accuse him of bias.
but he IS biased. why D? there are alot of other languages, so unless
there are
On Tuesday, 16 September 2014 at 13:39:07 UTC, ketmar via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 20:37:50 -0700
Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com
wrote:
Isaac removed D for ease of maintenance reasons and a few in
the community rushed to accuse him of bias.
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 13:51:14 +
bachmeier via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
Why does it matter why D was dropped?
it's not about D, it's about biasing. note that i'm not saying that
there were some bad intentions, i'm just saying that Isaac was biased,
in one way or
On 9/16/14, 7:04 AM, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 13:51:14 +
bachmeier via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
Why does it matter why D was dropped?
it's not about D, it's about biasing. note that i'm not saying that
there were some bad intentions, i'm
I'd say, run the damned benchmark for C and D. C would setup
performance scale. What would be interesting is to see, how
compiler switches affect performance, especially assert vs
release mode and bounds checking on/off.
Also:
http://forum.dlang.org/post/op.xl87ulu4eav7ka@stevens-macbook-pro-2.local
On 9/16/14, 9:44 AM, Kagamin wrote:
I'd say, run the damned benchmark for C and D. C would setup performance
scale. What would be interesting is to see, how compiler switches affect
performance, especially assert vs release mode and bounds checking on/off.
I agree that C and D should be
Dlang on 4chan
http://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/44196390/dlang
On 09/16/2014 07:32 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
I agree that C and D should be enough. Perhaps C++ and one more near the
top (Ada, Fortran) would be good for context.
Who wants to do this? Isaac made his setup publicly available.
There was actually someone working on this a year ago or
On Tuesday, 16 September 2014 at 17:32:39 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu wrote:
On 9/16/14, 9:44 AM, Kagamin wrote:
I'd say, run the damned benchmark for C and D. C would setup
performance
scale. What would be interesting is to see, how compiler
switches affect
performance, especially assert vs
On 16.9.2014 20:07, Anonymous via Digitalmars-d wrote:
Dlang on 4chan
http://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/44196390/dlang
Yeah, and the discussion is just in line with typical 4chan discussions :-)
A1) Andrei is fucking hot and he's not russian
A2) @A1: Andrei will never be your husbando
Why
On Tuesday, 16 September 2014 at 21:21:08 UTC, Martin Drasar via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
On 16.9.2014 20:07, Anonymous via Digitalmars-d wrote:
Dlang on 4chan
http://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/44196390/dlang
Yeah, and the discussion is just in line with typical 4chan
discussions :-)
A1)
On Tuesday, 16 September 2014 at 21:21:08 UTC, Martin Drasar via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
On 16.9.2014 20:07, Anonymous via Digitalmars-d wrote:
Dlang on 4chan
http://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/44196390/dlang
Yeah, and the discussion is just in line with typical 4chan
discussions :-)
A1)
On Tuesday, 16 September 2014 at 21:04:59 UTC, Peter Alexander
wrote:
-snip-
I'll take a stab at it. Will give me something to do on my
commute :-) (assuming his scripts work, or can be made to work
on OS X).
It'll be interesting to see which linux stuff is missing:
-- without libgtop2 you
On Tuesday, 16 September 2014 at 22:26:48 UTC, Isaac Gouy wrote:
On Tuesday, 16 September 2014 at 21:04:59 UTC, Peter Alexander
wrote:
-snip-
I'll take a stab at it. Will give me something to do on my
commute :-) (assuming his scripts work, or can be made to
work on OS X).
It'll be
On 9/16/14, 2:04 PM, Peter Alexander wrote:
On Tuesday, 16 September 2014 at 17:32:39 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 9/16/14, 9:44 AM, Kagamin wrote:
I'd say, run the damned benchmark for C and D. C would setup performance
scale. What would be interesting is to see, how compiler switches
Whenever I stumble about a list of programming languages, D is missing.
Not that most of those lists matter, but raising our presence would help
us to get more people and more contributions to the language and it's
ecosystem.
#
http://learnxinyminutes.com/
# unbelievable we're still missing
The benchmarks guy seems to have some kind of issue with D. He
claims it's too much effort or some nonsense.
On Monday, 15 September 2014 at 20:09:31 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:
Whenever I stumble about a list of programming languages, D is
missing.
Not that most of those lists matter, but
On Monday, 15 September 2014 at 20:09:31 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:
# unbelievable we're still missing in the programming language
shootout
http://benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org/
D is one of the 30 or so language implementations not measured on
Q6600 that were measured on Pentium 4 before
Isaac Gouy:
Why don't you include language X?
http://benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org/play.html#languagex
From that page:
By now - if they had actually made measurements, and published
and promoted them - their website would be highly ranked.
This is probably false, for two or more
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:56:21PM +, bearophile via Digitalmars-d wrote:
Isaac Gouy:
Why don't you include language X?
http://benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org/play.html#languagex
From that page:
By now - if they had actually made measurements, and published and
promoted them -
On Monday, 15 September 2014 at 23:56:23 UTC, bearophile wrote:
-snip-
By now - if they had actually made measurements, and published
and promoted them - their website would be highly ranked.
This is probably false, for two or more reasons.
It's so much less-effort to assume failure than to
On 9/15/14, 5:11 PM, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:56:21PM +, bearophile via Digitalmars-d wrote:
Isaac Gouy:
Why don't you include language X?
http://benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org/play.html#languagex
From that page:
By now - if they had actually
On Tuesday, 16 September 2014 at 01:43:15 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu wrote:
My understanding of this situation is different. We've wronged
the man in the past and a sign of good will from us would go a
long way. Andrei
What The D community do wrong in the first place?
On 9/15/14, 7:20 PM, Freddy wrote:
On Tuesday, 16 September 2014 at 01:43:15 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu wrote:
My understanding of this situation is different. We've wronged the man
in the past and a sign of good will from us would go a long way. Andrei
What The D community do wrong in the
On Tuesday, 16 September 2014 at 01:43:15 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu wrote:
That would be exactly what's needed. Who's volunteering?
I guess I already somehow did.
I am in the progress of building a benchmarking suite:
https://github.com/ThomasMader/benchmark
Currently it is possible to
On Tuesday, 16 September 2014 at 02:20:18 UTC, Freddy wrote:
What The D community do wrong in the first place?
Nothing. There are just too many language implementations. It
takes more time than I choose to donate. Been there; done that.
On Tuesday, 16 September 2014 at 03:53:10 UTC, Thomas Mader wrote:
I am in the progress of building a benchmarking suite
…
But don't expect fast progress. ;-)
Well, for faster progress, someone could just take the Python
scripts from the benchmarks game, measure programs and figure out
how
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