Re: Pitching an investment bank on using D for their bond analytics

2015-04-16 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
On 2015-04-16 00:32, Kapps wrote: One of the biggest issues I can think of would be code breakage. While we're the point where most compiler updates no longer break my code, if you expect to use a codebase from 2 years ago without having to update your code, you'll be disappointed. I don't

Re: Pitching an investment bank on using D for their bond analytics

2015-04-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 22:32:52 +, Kapps wrote: On Tuesday, 14 April 2015 at 12:08:54 UTC, D Denizen since a year wrote: A friend has been invited to be a consultant for an investment bank that would like to build a set of analytics for fixed income products. The team is currently quite

Re: Pitching an investment bank on using D for their bond analytics

2015-04-15 Thread Kapps via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 14 April 2015 at 12:08:54 UTC, D Denizen since a year wrote: A friend has been invited to be a consultant for an investment bank that would like to build a set of analytics for fixed income products. The team is currently quite small - about 5 C++ developers - and the idea is to

Re: Pitching an investment bank on using D for their bond analytics

2015-04-15 Thread lobo via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 15 April 2015 at 22:32:53 UTC, Kapps wrote: On Tuesday, 14 April 2015 at 12:08:54 UTC, D Denizen since a year wrote: A friend has been invited to be a consultant for an investment bank that would like to build a set of analytics for fixed income products. The team is currently

Re: Pitching an investment bank on using D for their bond analytics

2015-04-15 Thread Andy Smith via Digitalmars-d
I've spent a few years in the trenches so here are a few additional points that come to mind.. (+1 for John and Rikki's points BTW). --- - what are the things to emphasise in building the case for trying D? the most effective

Pitching an investment bank on using D for their bond analytics

2015-04-14 Thread D Denizen since a year via Digitalmars-d
Hi. I have been here a year or so, and trust you will forgive my posting pseudonymously on this occasion. If you guess who it is, please be kind enough not to say for now. A friend has been invited to be a consultant for an investment bank that would like to build a set of analytics for

Re: Pitching an investment bank on using D for their bond analytics

2015-04-14 Thread Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d
On 15/04/2015 12:08 a.m., D Denizen since a year wrote: Hi. I have been here a year or so, and trust you will forgive my posting pseudonymously on this occasion. If you guess who it is, please be kind enough not to say for now. A friend has been invited to be a consultant for an investment

Re: Pitching an investment bank on using D for their bond analytics

2015-04-14 Thread bachmeier via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 14 April 2015 at 12:16:40 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote: On 15/04/2015 12:08 a.m., D Denizen since a year wrote: Hi. I have been here a year or so, and trust you will forgive my posting pseudonymously on this occasion. If you guess who it is, please be kind enough not to say for

Re: Pitching an investment bank on using D for their bond analytics

2015-04-14 Thread Daniel Murphy via Digitalmars-d
D Denizen since a year wrote in message news:qpharcskwrbfgkuub...@forum.dlang.org... - am I right in thinking C++ integration more or less works, except instantiating C++ templates from D? what are the gotchas? C++ integration can be made to work, as in data can be passed back and forth

Re: Pitching an investment bank on using D for their bond analytics

2015-04-14 Thread D Denizen since a year via Digitalmars-d
The best case scenario has happened at least once before in a similarly-based company. Hi Iain. What's best way to reach you by email for quick follow-up on this (if you would not mind - no hurry)?

Re: Pitching an investment bank on using D for their bond analytics

2015-04-14 Thread Benjamin Thaut via Digitalmars-d
- what are potential factors that might make D a bad choice in this scenario? I would like to use D certainly - but it is of course much more important that the client gets the best result, however it is done. You would have to asess if the analysis you should create is time critical. If

Re: Pitching an investment bank on using D for their bond analytics

2015-04-14 Thread D Denizen since a year via Digitalmars-d
John Colvin: A couple of big pluses: 1) Ease of changing code. D codebases tend to feel more flexible than C++ Thank you - and yes, I agree. 2) Easy to transparently make use of highly optimised low-level code in high level constructs, whether that means carefully written D, inline asm

Re: Pitching an investment bank on using D for their bond analytics

2015-04-14 Thread Dicebot via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 14 April 2015 at 12:08:54 UTC, D Denizen since a year wrote: - what are the things to emphasize in building the case for trying D? the most effective factors that persuade people are not identical with the technically strongest reasons, because often one needs to see it before one

Re: Pitching an investment bank on using D for their bond analytics

2015-04-14 Thread Justin Whear via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 12:08:53 +, D Denizen since a year wrote: I lead a group that uses D pretty much 100% for a number of different kinds of projects, so I've seen many sides to D's advantages. That said, I don't enough about investment banking analytics to know exactly what they value.

Re: Pitching an investment bank on using D for their bond analytics

2015-04-14 Thread D Denizen since a year via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 14 April 2015 at 14:21:26 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote: That too, but I was thinking more along the lines of writing some business logic. It is very possible outside of a cli app or even web that they would want to use c++ for the user interfacing. The very worse case scenario here

Re: Pitching an investment bank on using D for their bond analytics

2015-04-14 Thread Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d
On 15/04/2015 2:17 a.m., D Denizen since a year wrote: Rikki: Just a thought, try getting them to use D for prototyping. Worse case they will play around with D before settling on e.g. c++. Best case scenario they'll move it into production. Good point. Pick a small part of the project

Re: Pitching an investment bank on using D for their bond analytics

2015-04-14 Thread D Denizen since a year via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 14 April 2015 at 14:21:15 UTC, Benjamin Thaut wrote: - what are potential factors that might make D a bad choice in this scenario? I would like to use D certainly - but it is of course much more important that the client gets the best result, however it is done. You would

Re: Pitching an investment bank on using D for their bond analytics

2015-04-14 Thread Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d
On 15/04/2015 2:24 a.m., D Denizen since a year wrote: On Tuesday, 14 April 2015 at 14:21:26 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote: That too, but I was thinking more along the lines of writing some business logic. It is very possible outside of a cli app or even web that they would want to use c++ for

Re: Pitching an investment bank on using D for their bond analytics

2015-04-14 Thread D Denizen since a year via Digitalmars-d
Rikki: Just a thought, try getting them to use D for prototyping. Worse case they will play around with D before settling on e.g. c++. Best case scenario they'll move it into production. Good point. Pick a small part of the project (especially something I 'prepared earlier') and get them

Re: Pitching an investment bank on using D for their bond analytics

2015-04-14 Thread D Denizen since a year via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 14 April 2015 at 13:17:09 UTC, Daniel Murphy wrote: D Denizen since a year wrote in message news:qpharcskwrbfgkuub...@forum.dlang.org... - am I right in thinking C++ integration more or less works, except instantiating C++ templates from D? what are the gotchas? C++

Re: Pitching an investment bank on using D for their bond analytics

2015-04-14 Thread Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d
On 15/04/2015 1:44 a.m., bachmeier wrote: On Tuesday, 14 April 2015 at 12:16:40 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote: On 15/04/2015 12:08 a.m., D Denizen since a year wrote: Hi. I have been here a year or so, and trust you will forgive my posting pseudonymously on this occasion. If you guess who it

Re: Pitching an investment bank on using D for their bond analytics

2015-04-14 Thread John Colvin via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 14 April 2015 at 12:08:54 UTC, D Denizen since a year wrote: Hi. I have been here a year or so, and trust you will forgive my posting pseudonymously on this occasion. If you guess who it is, please be kind enough not to say for now. A friend has been invited to be a consultant

Re: Pitching an investment bank on using D for their bond analytics

2015-04-14 Thread Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d
On 14 April 2015 at 14:16, Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On 15/04/2015 12:08 a.m., D Denizen since a year wrote: Hi. I have been here a year or so, and trust you will forgive my posting pseudonymously on this occasion. If you guess who it is, please

Re: Pitching an investment bank on using D for their bond analytics

2015-04-14 Thread Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d
On 14 April 2015 at 16:21, D Denizen since a year via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: The best case scenario has happened at least once before in a similarly-based company. Hi Iain. What's best way to reach you by email for quick follow-up on this (if you would not mind -