Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-09 Thread Jay Norwood via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 5 October 2015 at 16:35:39 UTC, Russel Winder wrote: As far as I am aware SWT is only used in Eclipse. Eclipse can be used to create light-weight RCP apps which include SWT. For example, at work we've used swt-xy-graph in some light-weight apps. There is also a light-weight

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-06 Thread Johannes Pfau via Digitalmars-d
Am Mon, 05 Oct 2015 14:21:55 -0400 schrieb Nick Sabalausky : > > Lots of us use GNOME and are proud to do so. > > > > GNOME3? I'm surprised to hear that. My (perhaps inaccurate) > understanding was that it landed with quite a thud and alienated a > lot of

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-06 Thread Johannes Pfau via Digitalmars-d
Am Tue, 06 Oct 2015 13:41:48 + schrieb Jonathan M Davis : > On Tuesday, 6 October 2015 at 13:38:28 UTC, Gerald wrote: > > My limited experience with gtkd has been very positive, while > > the documentation is primarily reference material it's not very > > difficult to

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-06 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
On 10/06/2015 02:21 AM, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Mon, 2015-10-05 at 14:21 -0400, Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d wrote: […] GNOME3? I'm surprised to hear that. My (perhaps inaccurate) understanding was that it landed with quite a thud and alienated a lot of its userbase

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-06 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
On 10/06/2015 02:53 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote: On Tuesday, 6 October 2015 at 18:40:17 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Well that's good to hear. KDE4 went through the same path. After spending time with KDE4, I found it to be it a terrible blunder of an upgrade even after, several point releases

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-06 Thread karabuta via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 4 October 2015 at 13:38:04 UTC, Manu wrote: On 4 October 2015 at 23:24, karabuta via Digitalmars-d wrote: For some time now I have been trying various GUIs options in D. I came to settle on gtkd and dlangui(stability is not my current priority). In

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-06 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
On 10/06/2015 11:33 AM, Johannes Pfau wrote: As of 2015, critical reception is much more positive.[48] Debian, a Linux distribution that had historically used GNOME 2, switched to Xfce when GNOME 3 was released. However, Debian readopted GNOME 3 in time for the release of Debian 8

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-06 Thread Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 2015-10-05 at 21:05 +, bachmeier via Digitalmars-d wrote: > […] > This was one of the more extreme cases though: > > - GNOME 3 was very different from GNOME 2. It had no appeal to > their existing users. Because they hadn't tried the new way, they just wanted the old way. I was in

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-06 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 5 October 2015 at 18:21:55 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On 10/05/2015 12:35 PM, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Sun, 2015-10-04 at 18:28 -0400, Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d wrote: […] I absolutely, positively cannot stand software that uses GTK for GUIs (including

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-06 Thread Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 2015-10-05 at 14:21 -0400, Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d wrote: > […] > GNOME3? I'm surprised to hear that. My (perhaps inaccurate) > understanding was that it landed with quite a thud and alienated a > lot > of its userbase (and even many of it's developers), moreso than the >

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-06 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 6 October 2015 at 19:23:40 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On 10/06/2015 02:53 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote: On Tuesday, 6 October 2015 at 18:40:17 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Well that's good to hear. KDE4 went through the same path. After spending time with KDE4, I found it to be it a

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-06 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 6 October 2015 at 18:40:17 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Well that's good to hear. KDE4 went through the same path. After spending time with KDE4, I found it to be it a terrible blunder of an upgrade even after, several point releases in, people were saying it had finally been fixed.

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-06 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 6 October 2015 at 13:38:28 UTC, Gerald wrote: My limited experience with gtkd has been very positive, while the documentation is primarily reference material it's not very difficult to figure out how things work with GTK based on examples from C or pyGTK. I do use Linix and Gnome

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-06 Thread Gerald via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 4 October 2015 at 13:24:23 UTC, karabuta wrote: In YHO, what keeps you from using any of those fully(mostly)? Gtkd first, followed by dlangui. I need to know what I am signing up for. I'm working on a search utility using gtkd, it's essentially a GUI for grep. I was using a

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-05 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
On 10/05/2015 12:35 PM, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Sun, 2015-10-04 at 18:28 -0400, Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d wrote: […] I absolutely, positively cannot stand software that uses GTK for GUIs (including Unity and GNOME...not that anybody actually uses GNOME anymore)

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-05 Thread Dicebot via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 5 October 2015 at 18:21:55 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: GNOME3? I'm surprised to hear that. My (perhaps inaccurate) understanding was that it landed with quite a thud and alienated a lot of its userbase (and even many of it's developers), moreso than the early days of KDE4 did. And

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-05 Thread Dicebot via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 4 October 2015 at 22:28:59 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: (including Unity and GNOME...not that anybody actually uses GNOME anymore) I can't resist but to post this https://www.archlinux.de/?page=FunStatistics :P On topic : I don't use gtkd simply because I never do GUI. Otherwise

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-05 Thread FreeSlave via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 4 October 2015 at 13:24:23 UTC, karabuta wrote: For some time now I have been trying various GUIs options in D. I came to settle on gtkd and dlangui(stability is not my current priority). In YHO, what keeps you from using any of those fully(mostly)? Gtkd first, followed by

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-05 Thread Dicebot via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 5 October 2015 at 21:05:11 UTC, bachmeier wrote: This was one of the more extreme cases though: - GNOME 3 was very different from GNOME 2. It had no appeal to their existing users. - GNOME users were told that GNOME 2 was dead so they had to "upgrade". - There was little advance

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-05 Thread bachmeier via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 5 October 2015 at 19:48:58 UTC, Dicebot wrote: As it usually happens, perception can be easily misguided by the fact that most unhappy users tend to also be most vocal - while the satisfied ones simply mind their own business. The link above shows that at least in Arch Linux KDE

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-05 Thread bachmeier via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 5 October 2015 at 21:35:49 UTC, Dicebot wrote: On Monday, 5 October 2015 at 21:05:11 UTC, bachmeier wrote: This was one of the more extreme cases though: - GNOME 3 was very different from GNOME 2. It had no appeal to their existing users. - GNOME users were told that GNOME 2 was

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-05 Thread thedeemon via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 4 October 2015 at 13:24:23 UTC, karabuta wrote: For some time now I have been trying various GUIs options in D. I came to settle on gtkd and dlangui(stability is not my current priority). In YHO, what keeps you from using any of those fully(mostly)? Gtkd first, followed by

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-05 Thread Kapps via Digitalmars-d
GTK is horrid on OSX, and I've had performance issues with it. I was interested in dlangui, it has promise, but I don't really want to rely on a library designed by one person that reinvents everything. It's guaranteed that that one person will want to move on at some point, and I don't want

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-05 Thread Jeremy via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 4 October 2015 at 14:53:57 UTC, Russel Winder wrote: On Sun, 2015-10-04 at 14:16 +, Suliman via Digitalmars-d wrote: > Qt is the defacto portable standard +1 I agree that for cross-platform, Qt is increasingly the right choice again. This thread is perfect. I am happy to

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-05 Thread Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 2015-10-04 at 19:29 +, Zekereth via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Sunday, 4 October 2015 at 14:48:57 UTC, Russel Winder wrote: > > Go only has QML bindings not a complete Qt5 binding. This turns > > out to be more than enough for good cross-platform > > applications. I suspect if there

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-05 Thread Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 2015-10-04 at 18:28 -0400, Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d wrote: > […] > I absolutely, positively cannot stand software that uses GTK for GUIs > (including Unity and GNOME...not that anybody actually uses GNOME > anymore) regardless of whether I'm running on Windows or Linux. So I >

What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-04 Thread karabuta via Digitalmars-d
For some time now I have been trying various GUIs options in D. I came to settle on gtkd and dlangui(stability is not my current priority). In YHO, what keeps you from using any of those fully(mostly)? Gtkd first, followed by dlangui. I need to know what I am signing up for.

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-04 Thread Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 2015-10-04 at 14:16 +, Suliman via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > Qt is the defacto portable standard > +1 I agree that for cross-platform, Qt is increasingly the right choice again. wx was the best choice for a while but it seems to have gone. Qt was good then lost focus (Nokia's fault)

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-04 Thread Manu via Digitalmars-d
On 4 October 2015 at 23:24, karabuta via Digitalmars-d wrote: > For some time now I have been trying various GUIs options in D. I came to > settle on gtkd and dlangui(stability is not my current priority). > > In YHO, what keeps you from using any of those

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-04 Thread bachmeier via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 4 October 2015 at 13:24:23 UTC, karabuta wrote: For some time now I have been trying various GUIs options in D. I came to settle on gtkd and dlangui(stability is not my current priority). In YHO, what keeps you from using any of those fully(mostly)? Gtkd first, followed by

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-04 Thread Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 2015-10-04 at 13:24 +, karabuta via Digitalmars-d wrote: > For some time now I have been trying various GUIs options in D. I > came to settle on gtkd and dlangui(stability is not my current > priority). > > In YHO, what keeps you from using any of those fully(mostly)? > Gtkd first,

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-04 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 4 October 2015 at 14:50:10 UTC, Russel Winder wrote: GTK is entirely fine and dandy when using GNOME. I don't like GNOME either. I suspect you are trying to use it in OSX or Windows. Well, I myself am on Linux on the desktop, but yeah, I do sometimes use my programs on my

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-04 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 4 October 2015 at 14:48:11 UTC, Jack Stouffer wrote: Uninformed opinion: isn't there a C binding for Qt? No, it is a pure C++ lib. D's C++ interop is getting to the point where it is good enough to get started with Qt though, but Qt is also a big library with a lot of other meta

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-04 Thread John Colvin via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 4 October 2015 at 15:19:21 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: On Sunday, 4 October 2015 at 14:48:11 UTC, Jack Stouffer wrote: Uninformed opinion: isn't there a C binding for Qt? No, it is a pure C++ lib. D's C++ interop is getting to the point where it is good enough to get started with

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-04 Thread Suliman via Digitalmars-d
Qt is the defacto portable standard +1 GTK is crap, and dlangui is single-man project, and also look not very native.

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-04 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 4 October 2015 at 14:49:18 UTC, karabuta wrote: By the way, I can draw icons. Tell me when you need icons for minigui. At least, I can drawn better than those used in gtk :) Cool, though I'm trying to use native ones wherever I can both to get the native look and the keep the size

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-04 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 4 October 2015 at 13:24:23 UTC, karabuta wrote: In YHO, what keeps you from using any of those fully(mostly)? Gtkd first, followed by dlangui. I need to know what I am signing up for. I don't like gtk as an end user, so I don't use it as a developer either. I've never tried

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-04 Thread karabuta via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 4 October 2015 at 13:41:56 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: On Sunday, 4 October 2015 at 13:24:23 UTC, karabuta wrote: In YHO, what keeps you from using any of those fully(mostly)? Gtkd first, followed by dlangui. I need to know what I am signing up for. I don't like gtk as an end

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-04 Thread Jack Stouffer via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 4 October 2015 at 13:38:04 UTC, Manu wrote: Qt is the defacto portable standard, including mobile devices. Sadly, there is no substitute, so as far as I'm concerned, D waits for a Qt5 binding. Uninformed opinion: isn't there a C binding for Qt? Why can't you just tie into that?

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-04 Thread Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 2015-10-04 at 13:41 +, Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d wrote: > […] > I don't like gtk as an end user, so I don't use it as a developer > either. I've never tried dlangui, it came out after I started > writing my own. > > What irks me about gtk as a user is that I have to install

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-04 Thread Zekereth via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 4 October 2015 at 14:48:57 UTC, Russel Winder wrote: Go only has QML bindings not a complete Qt5 binding. This turns out to be more than enough for good cross-platform applications. I suspect if there was a D/QML binding, this would be a good place to be. Have you seen this?

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-04 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
On 10/04/2015 09:24 AM, karabuta wrote: For some time now I have been trying various GUIs options in D. I came to settle on gtkd and dlangui(stability is not my current priority). In YHO, what keeps you from using any of those fully(mostly)? Gtkd first, followed by dlangui. I need to know

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-04 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
On 10/04/2015 10:53 AM, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Sun, 2015-10-04 at 14:16 +, Suliman via Digitalmars-d wrote: GTK is crap, and dlangui is single-man project, and also look not very native. GTK is perfect, definitely not crap. If you are using GNOME or one of the other UI

Re: What keeps you from using gtkd or dlangui

2015-10-04 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 4 October 2015 at 22:28:59 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: I absolutely, positively cannot stand software that uses GTK for GUIs (including Unity and GNOME...not that anybody actually uses GNOME anymore) regardless of whether I'm running on Windows or Linux. So I definitely won't write