On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 02:40:15AM +0200, Timon Gehr via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On 24.06.2016 01:58, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 01:33:46AM +0200, Timon Gehr via Digitalmars-d
> > wrote:
> > > On 24.06.2016 00:53, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> > > > > >
On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 05:22:11AM +0200, Timon Gehr via Digitalmars-d wrote:
[...]
> (BTW: It would be fine with me if 0.0^^0.0 was NaN -- that's a
> completely different case than the one at hand: pow on integers.)
That's even worse. So 0^0=1 if 0 is regarded as an integer, and 0^0=NaN
if 0 is r
On 24/06/16 01:22, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
Considering the possible use cases for something like this, I think we
are better off having this limitation than not being able to use opApply
with inout.
-Steve
I am not sure I followed the discussion correctly. If I did, however, it
seems to
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 07:46:41 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
FWIW, this thread has inspired me to begin work on a project
I've titled 'The DUB Handbook'. I've been meaning to write some
tutorials about DUB (among other things) for learningd.org, but
I think a detailed guide would be a more wor
On 24.06.2016 05:22, Timon Gehr wrote:
... break the laws of physics by
arbitrarily defining something to be true when it is not.
...
Utter nonsense. (Also note that the 'laws of physics' typically give
rise to piecewise analytic functions, and if you only consider analytic
functions, 0 ^ 0
On 24.06.2016 04:36, Smoke Adams wrote:
You do realize that e^(-1/t)^t is a counter example?
e^(-1/t) -> 0 as t -> 0
t -> 0 as t -> 0
That's not a counterexample to anything I said. ^ is discontinuous at
(0,0) and indeed, you can force the limit to an arbitrary value by
choosing t
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 19:24:49 UTC, Seb wrote:
Let me start with the good news: since the DLang Tour was
launched by André last month, we had about 3K unique visitors
and continuously have between 100-200 visitors per day.
However here are the bad news: We loose about 40% of all
visito
On Friday, 24 June 2016 at 01:49:27 UTC, Timon Gehr wrote:
On 24.06.2016 02:14, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 01:58:01AM +0200, Timon Gehr via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
On 24.06.2016 01:18, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 11:14:08PM +, de
On 24.06.2016 02:14, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 01:58:01AM +0200, Timon Gehr via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On 24.06.2016 01:18, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 11:14:08PM +, deadalnix via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Thursday, 23 June 2016
Thank you for the input but considering that the deprecation
message for this wasn't triggered a single time while compiling
Phobos, I suspect that very few will be bothered by this special
case. I have submitted a PMR, so we can all fight over it there:
https://github.com/dlang/phobos/pull/44
On Friday, 24 June 2016 at 00:26:52 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
My biggest bugbear is actually the opposite of what you are
point out here: people doing careful benchmarking and
asm-inspection of small code-fragments in isolation when in
reality it is always going to be inlined and optimised in
co
On 24.06.2016 01:58, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 01:33:46AM +0200, Timon Gehr via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On 24.06.2016 00:53, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
Because 0^^0 = 1, and 1 is representable.
E.g. n^^m counts the number of functions from an m-set to an
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 23:34:54 UTC, David Nadlinger wrote:
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 22:08:20 UTC, Seb wrote:
[1] https://github.com/wilzbach/perf-d/blob/master/test_pow.d
[2] https://github.com/wilzbach/perf-d/blob/master/test_powi.d
This is a bad way to benchmark. You are essential
On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 01:58:01AM +0200, Timon Gehr via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On 24.06.2016 01:18, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 11:14:08PM +, deadalnix via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> > > On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 22:53:59 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> > > > This a
On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 01:33:46AM +0200, Timon Gehr via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On 24.06.2016 00:53, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> > > >Because 0^^0 = 1, and 1 is representable.
> > > >
> > > >E.g. n^^m counts the number of functions from an m-set to an n-set,
> > > >and there is exactly on
On 24.06.2016 01:18, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 11:14:08PM +, deadalnix via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 22:53:59 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
This argument only works for discrete sets. If n and m are reals,
you'd need a different argument.
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 23:16:23 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
This is a problem with optional (), not text.
A valid point. But we aren't going to have this change.
Spreading the shit doesn't make it smell good.
test takes n parameters and return a string representation of
these
pa
I have plenty of work that needs being done as a dependency to a GUI
toolkit.
So what are you going to do to contribute? Money, time?
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 23:34:54 UTC, David Nadlinger wrote:
I get the following results:
(This is of course not intended to be a comprehensive analysis.
For example, the codegen for the two functions is actually
identical on GDC and LDC, the relative differences are due to
measurement
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 22:08:20 UTC, Seb wrote:
[1] https://github.com/wilzbach/perf-d/blob/master/test_pow.d
[2] https://github.com/wilzbach/perf-d/blob/master/test_powi.d
This is a bad way to benchmark. You are essentially testing the
compiler's ability to propagate your constants into
On 24.06.2016 00:53, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>Because 0^^0 = 1, and 1 is representable.
>
>E.g. n^^m counts the number of functions from an m-set to an n-set,
>and there is exactly one function from {} to {}.
This argument only works for discrete sets.
No, it works for any cardinal
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 11:14:08PM +, deadalnix via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 22:53:59 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> > This argument only works for discrete sets. If n and m are reals,
> > you'd need a different argument.
> >
>
> For reals, you can use limits/continuatio
On 6/23/16 6:46 PM, deadalnix wrote:
On Wednesday, 22 June 2016 at 15:39:11 UTC, Meta wrote:
If it is called with 0 arguments it will return null.
No it will return empty string.
null is an empty string. And it does return null specifically.
This behaviour has caused several bugs in my c
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 22:53:59 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
This argument only works for discrete sets. If n and m are
reals, you'd need a different argument.
For reals, you can use limits/continuation as argument.
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 11:30:51PM +0200, Timon Gehr via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On 23.06.2016 23:04, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> > On 06/23/2016 02:59 PM, Timon Gehr wrote:
> > > On 23.06.2016 19:22, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> > > > So I was looking for an efficient exponentiation implementation
On Wednesday, 22 June 2016 at 15:39:11 UTC, Meta wrote:
If it is called with 0 arguments it will return null.
No it will return empty string.
This behaviour has caused several bugs in my code because
combined with optional parens and UFCS, it is easy to
accidentally
call text with 0 args b
On 6/23/16 3:20 PM, Timon Gehr wrote:
On 23.06.2016 14:58, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On 6/21/16 5:19 PM, Timon Gehr wrote:
The problem here is that both variants make sense depending on context
and there is no syntax to distinguish between them. This proposal
interacts in a weird way with I
Can you post codegen for each ?
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 21:03:08 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 06/23/2016 02:37 PM, Seb wrote:
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 18:05:07 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 06/23/2016 01:34 PM, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
I don't understand why that goto is necessary.
Eh, thank
On 06/23/2016 12:24 PM, Seb wrote:
> We already tried to improve things a bit (slicker design, D-man on the
> front page), but we need your help to motivate future D-eists and
> inspire them!
Sorry to repeat myself:
- The first navigation link says "Install D Locally". I wouldn't click
that li
On 23.06.2016 23:04, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 06/23/2016 02:59 PM, Timon Gehr wrote:
On 23.06.2016 19:22, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
So I was looking for an efficient exponentiation implementation, and
http://www.stepanovpapers.com/PAM.pdf has a nice discussion starting at
page 54. Stepano
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 21:03:08 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
However you should test how it performs against the LLVM
intrinsics
available in LDC, e.g.:
llvm.intrinsincs.llvm_pow and llvm_powi (i = integer).
Cool! Is that a CPU operation?
Andrei
It is going to depend on the targe
On 6/23/2016 10:22 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
https://dpaste.dzfl.pl/e53acb41885a
Paste bin links are ephemeral. The code from the link:
/**
*/
int pow(int lhs, uint rhs, ref bool overflow)
{ return powImpl(lhs, rhs, overflow); }
/// ditto
long pow(long lhs, uint rhs, ref bool overflow)
{
On 06/23/2016 02:59 PM, Timon Gehr wrote:
On 23.06.2016 19:22, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
So I was looking for an efficient exponentiation implementation, and
http://www.stepanovpapers.com/PAM.pdf has a nice discussion starting at
page 54. Stepanov's solution, however, duplicates code, so I
elim
On 06/23/2016 02:37 PM, Seb wrote:
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 18:05:07 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 06/23/2016 01:34 PM, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
I don't understand why that goto is necessary.
Eh, thank you all who set me straight! I've been in my head for too
long. So wher
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 20:25:17 UTC, Carl Vogel wrote:
The main one is no visible TOC. The only way to move around the
tour is to go forward or backward one by one---making it hard
to skip around, or understand what topics are coming up. A div
on the side with all the section links woul
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 19:24:49 UTC, Seb wrote:
Let me start with the good news: since the DLang Tour was
launched by André last month, we had about 3K unique visitors
and continuously have between 100-200 visitors per day.
However here are the bad news: We loose about 40% of all
visito
On 23.06.2016 21:04, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 08:59:07PM +0200, Timon Gehr via Digitalmars-d wrote:
[...]
Unrelated comment: 0^^0 should not overflow.
Says who?
http://www.askamathematician.com/2010/12/q-what-does-00-zero-raised-to-the-zeroth-power-
-- Brace yourself: a very long post is coming --
Hi,
One month after the official GSoC start, I want to share with you
what's in std.experimental.xml and what will hopefully be there.
If you have any question/improvement or anything to say, just
leave a comment here or an issue on GitHub
(ht
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 19:24:54 UTC, via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 07:11:26PM +, deadalnix via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
| is bitwize or. || is binary or.
& is bitwize and. && is binary and.
^ is bitwize xor. ^^ is... no, never mind.
binary xor is !=
lol
3 != 5 i
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 19:05:34 UTC, Meta wrote:
Lurk more and you'll see that Walter and Andrei *are* making
those tough decisions.
If he lurked more, he would notice that threads like this pop up
every few months.
Let me start with the good news: since the DLang Tour was
launched by André last month, we had about 3K unique visitors and
continuously have between 100-200 visitors per day.
However here are the bad news: We loose about 40% of all visitors
directly on the front page and we loose the majority
On 23.06.2016 14:58, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On 6/21/16 5:19 PM, Timon Gehr wrote:
The problem here is that both variants make sense depending on context
and there is no syntax to distinguish between them. This proposal
interacts in a weird way with IFTI.
I know you are probably right, b
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 07:11:26PM +, deadalnix via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> | is bitwize or. || is binary or.
> & is bitwize and. && is binary and.
> ^ is bitwize xor. ^^ is... no, never mind.
binary xor is !=
lol
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 18:49:56 UTC, ketmar wrote:
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 18:35:23 UTC, jmh530 wrote:
You're thinking of pow in std.math. I don't see
opBinary!("^^") anywhere in there. I only see ^^ in comments.
the "^^" is very special, 'cause it is the one and only thing
that co
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 08:59:07PM +0200, Timon Gehr via Digitalmars-d wrote:
[...]
> Unrelated comment: 0^^0 should not overflow.
Says who?
http://www.askamathematician.com/2010/12/q-what-does-00-zero-raised-to-the-zeroth-power-equal-why-do-mathematicians-and-high-school-teachers-disagr
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 17:24:23 UTC, Joerg Joergonson wrote:
So, 10 companies are using phobos!! That's amazing, sure shows
how great it is! I wonder if they use use import std.stdio; or
actually USE phobos.
Phobos clearly is hacked together shit... maybe not all, but at
least some.
T
On 23.06.2016 19:22, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
So I was looking for an efficient exponentiation implementation, and
http://www.stepanovpapers.com/PAM.pdf has a nice discussion starting at
page 54. Stepanov's solution, however, duplicates code, so I eliminated it:
https://dpaste.dzfl.pl/e53acb41
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 17:24:23 UTC, Joerg Joergonson wrote:
So, 10 companies are using phobos!! That's amazing, sure shows
how great it is! I wonder if they use use import std.stdio; or
actually USE phobos.
It's not a complete list and anyone with half a brain would be
able to surmise
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 18:35:23 UTC, jmh530 wrote:
You're thinking of pow in std.math. I don't see opBinary!("^^")
anywhere in there. I only see ^^ in comments.
the "^^" is very special, 'cause it is the one and only thing
that compiler recognizes as "function call" in expression
parsin
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 06:35:23PM +, jmh530 via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 18:20:00 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 02:05:07PM -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu via
> > Digitalmars-d wrote:
> > > On 06/23/2016 01:34 PM, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 18:05:07 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 06/23/2016 01:34 PM, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
I don't understand why that goto is necessary.
Eh, thank you all who set me straight! I've been in my head for
too long. So where is the current implementation of
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 18:20:00 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 02:05:07PM -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu
via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On 06/23/2016 01:34 PM, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> I don't understand why that goto is necessary.
Eh, thank you all who set me straight!
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 14:28:08 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
Is there a way to tell? Thanks! -- Andrei
ld --version
I presume.
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 02:05:07PM -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> On 06/23/2016 01:34 PM, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> > I don't understand why that goto is necessary.
>
> Eh, thank you all who set me straight! I've been in my head for too
> long. So where is the c
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 14:28:08 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 06/23/2016 03:14 AM, Nordlöw wrote:
On Wednesday, 22 June 2016 at 19:20:42 UTC, deadalnix wrote:
You methodology is flawed. You are essentially measuring link
time
against the standard lib.
If you're sitting on Linux ma
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 17:57:33 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 06/23/2016 01:33 PM, David Nadlinger wrote:
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 17:24:34 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On my Ubuntu, /usr/bin/ld -> x86_64-linux-gnu-ld. What does
that mean?
-- Andrei
`ld --version` should cl
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 18:05:07 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 06/23/2016 01:34 PM, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
I don't understand why that goto is necessary.
Eh, thank you all who set me straight! I've been in my head for
too long. So where is the current implementation of
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 17:24:23 UTC, Joerg Joergonson wrote:
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 14:34:44 UTC, Jack Stouffer wrote:
[...]
So, 10 companies are using phobos!! That's amazing, sure shows
how great it is! I wonder if they use use import std.stdio; or
actually USE phobos.
[...]
On 06/23/2016 01:34 PM, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
I don't understand why that goto is necessary.
Eh, thank you all who set me straight! I've been in my head for too
long. So where is the current implementation of "^^"? If it's not as
fast as this, we should replace it. -- Andrei
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 17:39:45 UTC, Daniel Kozak wrote:
[kozzi@samuel ~]$ dmd -defaultlib=libphobos2.so a.d
[kozzi@samuel ~]$ time for t in {1..1000}; do ./a; done >
/dev/null
real0m7.187s
user0m4.470s
sys0m0.943s
[kozzi@samuel ~]$ dmd -defaultlib=libphobos2.a a.d
[kozzi@s
On 06/23/2016 01:33 PM, David Nadlinger wrote:
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 17:24:34 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On my Ubuntu, /usr/bin/ld -> x86_64-linux-gnu-ld. What does that mean?
-- Andrei
`ld --version` should clear that up. ;)
GNU ld (GNU Binutils for Ubuntu) 2.26
So how do I get
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 17:48:40 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
On 6/23/16 1:24 PM, Joerg Joergonson wrote:
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 14:34:44 UTC, Jack Stouffer wrote:
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 12:57:47 UTC, Steven
Schveighoffer wrote:
[...]
AFAIK the all of the companies on th
On 6/23/16 1:24 PM, Joerg Joergonson wrote:
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 14:34:44 UTC, Jack Stouffer wrote:
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 12:57:47 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
I don't mean this as disproof, but many companies are not using
Phobos, even though they use D.
Sociomantic definit
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 17:22:55 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
So I was looking for an efficient exponentiation
implementation, and http://www.stepanovpapers.com/PAM.pdf has a
nice discussion starting at page 54. Stepanov's solution,
however, duplicates code, so I eliminated it:
https:
On 6/23/16 1:22 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
So I was looking for an efficient exponentiation implementation, and
http://www.stepanovpapers.com/PAM.pdf has a nice discussion starting at
page 54. Stepanov's solution, however, duplicates code, so I eliminated it:
https://dpaste.dzfl.pl/e53acb418
// Loop invariant: r * (b ^^ e) is the actual result
for (;;)
{
if (e % 2 != 0)
{
r = mul(r, b, overflow);
if (e == 1) return r;
}
b = mul(b, b, overflow);
e /= 2;
}
?
Dne 23.6.2016 v 19:24 Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d napsal(a):
On 06/23/2016 10:36 AM, ketmar wrote:
as of the linker itsef, on most systems /usr/bin/ld is just a symling to
either ld.bfd or ld.gold. we can include some notion in DMD
documentation regarding to that.
On my Ubuntu, /usr
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 01:22:55PM -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> So I was looking for an efficient exponentiation implementation, and
> http://www.stepanovpapers.com/PAM.pdf has a nice discussion starting
> at page 54. Stepanov's solution, however, duplicates code, so I
> e
Dne 23.6.2016 v 16:39 ketmar via Digitalmars-d napsal(a):
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 13:32:35 UTC, Daniel Kozak wrote:
Or on linux use ld.gold instead of ld.bfd. Using .so instead of .a
has another problem with speed. Application link against static
phobos lib is much faster than against dyn
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 17:24:34 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On my Ubuntu, /usr/bin/ld -> x86_64-linux-gnu-ld. What does
that mean? -- Andrei
`ld --version` should clear that up. ;)
— David
On 06/23/2016 10:36 AM, ketmar wrote:
as of the linker itsef, on most systems /usr/bin/ld is just a symling to
either ld.bfd or ld.gold. we can include some notion in DMD
documentation regarding to that.
On my Ubuntu, /usr/bin/ld -> x86_64-linux-gnu-ld. What does that mean?
-- Andrei
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 14:34:44 UTC, Jack Stouffer wrote:
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 12:57:47 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
I don't mean this as disproof, but many companies are not
using Phobos, even though they use D.
Sociomantic definitely does not (they use D1 currently, and
th
So I was looking for an efficient exponentiation implementation, and
http://www.stepanovpapers.com/PAM.pdf has a nice discussion starting at
page 54. Stepanov's solution, however, duplicates code, so I eliminated it:
https://dpaste.dzfl.pl/e53acb41885a
The cost is the use of one goto. Can the
On Wednesday, 22 June 2016 at 18:25:51 UTC, jmh530 wrote:
On Wednesday, 22 June 2016 at 17:55:11 UTC, Joerg Joergonson
wrote:
Have you every used .NET considerably?
You're comparing D to something created and maintained by one
of the largest software companies in the world...
Sounds like a
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 12:57:47 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
[…] I believe Weka.io does not [use Phobos] either.
Weka actually uses Phobos quite liberally – `fgrep -rI "import
std." weka` yields several thousand results (I'm sure Liran will
be happy to share more details). It's just
On 06/23/2016 04:04 PM, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>> Sociomantic definitely does not (they use D1 currently, and their D2
>> port probably uses a port of their library as well), and I believe
>> Weka.io does not either.
>
> AFAIK, the reason Sociomantic doesn't use Phobos is because thei
http://melpon.org/wandbox/permlink/u8lpOZ9owC7QXfa3
hi, that code is based on ideas and code from this[1] thread.
some examples:
// named and in order
args!(fun, a=>6, b=>65, s=>"test", f=>1.4);
// named and out of order
args!(fun, b=>65, f=>1.4, s=>"test", a=>6);
// unnamed and in
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 15:03:20 UTC, jmh530 wrote:
You had recommended looking through json/sdl files from
existing projects to learn how to use dub properly. If someone
took this advice for learning D, it would be to look at source
code in random projects to try to understand the lang
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 01:43:32 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
On Wednesday, 22 June 2016 at 19:20:30 UTC, jmh530 wrote:
I will touch dub, but I still felt like shouting "well then
why doesn't the next edition of Learning D just tell people to
look at some D source code and figure it out" whe
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 08:52:06 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
Honest question: have you ever looked into Kaizen and lean
management https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaizen? Because
stopping everything in Phobos and waiting for "breakthroughs"
is a dead on arrival plan. A continuous impro
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 12:57:47 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
I don't mean this as disproof, but many companies are not using
Phobos, even though they use D.
Sociomantic definitely does not (they use D1 currently, and
their D2 port probably uses a port of their library as well),
and
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 13:32:35 UTC, Daniel Kozak wrote:
Or on linux use ld.gold instead of ld.bfd. Using .so instead of
.a has another problem with speed. Application link against
static phobos lib is much faster than against dynamic version.
either i didn't understood you right, or...
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 14:28:08 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
The GNU gold linker should be the default on newer
distributions.
Is there a way to tell? Thanks! -- Andrei
it's not something dmd should enforce: it is the system setting
under user control. there may be many various reas
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 11:25:46 UTC, qznc wrote:
Now that Python has won over Ruby [0], it is the dominant
scripting language.
[0]
https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=python%20language%2C%20ruby%20language&cmpt=q&tz=Etc%2FGMT-2
Tried to add javascript to the chart, but got a strang
On 06/23/2016 03:14 AM, Nordlöw wrote:
On Wednesday, 22 June 2016 at 19:20:42 UTC, deadalnix wrote:
You methodology is flawed. You are essentially measuring link time
against the standard lib.
If you're sitting on Linux make sure that you're using the GNU gold
linker (`ld.gold`) by default (`l
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 13:33:03 UTC, Wyatt wrote:
Yes, this is a good idea. It took me most of a day of trying
to wrestle my project into a dub-compatible state and I
honestly ended up giving up because my old Makefile is shorter,
faster, and much easier to understand. (IIRC, the last s
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 13:31:37 UTC, Guido wrote:
But I have to say that more detailed descriptions of commands
is not what I had in mind. What are the best coding practices
and why?
I obviously haven't started using dub yet, so I won't be able
to judge whether a code example is mere
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 07:46:41 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
My intention with the text is to provide a detailed description
of every dub command and configuration directive, along with
examples of how to use them in both JSON and SDLang formats.
Yes, this is a good idea. It took me most of
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 07:46:41 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
FWIW, this thread has inspired me to begin work on a project
I've titled 'The DUB Handbook'. I've been meaning to write some
tutorials about DUB (among other things) for learningd.org, but
I think a detailed guide would be a more wor
Or on linux use ld.gold instead of ld.bfd. Using .so instead of .a has
another problem with speed. Application link against static phobos lib
is much faster than against dynamic version.
Dne 22.6.2016 v 21:33 ketmar via Digitalmars-d napsal(a):
On Wednesday, 22 June 2016 at 19:25:13 UTC, Jack
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 08:57:47AM -0400, Steven Schveighoffer via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On 6/23/16 8:31 AM, Jack Stouffer wrote:
[...]
> > Phobos is "obviously" production ready as it's being used in
> > production at many companies https://dlang.org/orgs-using-d.html
> >
> > So companies are w
On 6/22/16 1:12 PM, Jack Stouffer wrote:
On Wednesday, 22 June 2016 at 17:04:54 UTC, Meta wrote:
Intentional or not, I don't see any downside to disallowing calling
text with 0 args (aside from backwards-compatibility concerns). It
doesn't even return anything useful, just null.
Well, the idea
On 6/22/16 6:28 AM, Kagamin wrote:
On Monday, 20 June 2016 at 15:09:22 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
int opApply(scope int delegate(ref inout T value) dg) inout
The inout inside the delegate is wrapped just like the inout of the
'this' parameter. effectively, this becomes equivalent to sever
On 6/21/16 5:19 PM, Timon Gehr wrote:
The problem here is that both variants make sense depending on context
and there is no syntax to distinguish between them. This proposal
interacts in a weird way with IFTI.
I know you are probably right, but can you explain maybe via an example
what you
On 6/23/16 8:31 AM, Jack Stouffer wrote:
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 08:55:07 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote:
The DMD developers refuse to use Phobos in the D compiler, so Phobos
is obviously not production ready.
Ridiculous. One data point does not make a trend.
Phobos is "obviously" produc
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 08:52:06 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
This is not true.
Please elaborate.
There are many development methodologies and most of them are
not suitable for designing programming languages, including all
"lean" methodologies.
D is a continually improving languag
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 08:55:07 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
The DMD developers refuse to use Phobos in the D compiler, so
Phobos is obviously not production ready.
Ridiculous. One data point does not make a trend.
Phobos is "obviously" production ready as it's being used in
producti
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 09:18:47 UTC, sdds wrote:
On Thursday, 23 June 2016 at 08:33:39 UTC, qznc wrote:
For Rust, D is even mentioned. For the question "What
programming languages are you most comfortable with?" 68 of
3085 people selected D.
1666 ppl selected Python. For the same Q in t
I agree with the need for a D3 and a completely redesigned
standard library though. But it will only happen as a fork, not
from within the current team...
http://volt-lang.org/ as variant
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