Re: Find symbol in unknown module at compile time?

2014-12-06 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 07 Dec 2014 01:12:52 + bitwise via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: If the reflection mixin is in the same module that it's reflecting, it can be easily found, but in the case of a static library where reflection information has to be created in a separate

Re: Find symbol in unknown module at compile time?

2014-12-06 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 07 Dec 2014 05:42:31 + bitwise via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: what you actually want is some cross-module compile-time data storage. this is impossible to implement. at least to make it reliable. with separate compilation, for example, you can't get list of all

Re: Find symbol in unknown module at compile time?

2014-12-07 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 07 Dec 2014 21:44:51 + bitwise via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: I would like to be able to reflect private members though... Is there any way to give a module private access to an unrelated module? nope. and i hope there will be no such thing. ;-) I understand

Re: Recent repetitive spam?

2014-12-07 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 7 Dec 2014 20:55:04 +0530 Shriramana Sharma via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: I wonder if it is me or everyone is receiving some sort of kitchen-related spam via the mailing list? not that many. something about 5-6 letters withing a month (at it's maximum). The

problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-07 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
Hello. i don't like `size_t`. for many month i avoied using it wherever that was possible, 'cause i feel something wrong with it. and today i found the soultion! let's see how other D types are named: `int`, `uint`, `byte` (oh, well, this name sux), `ulong`. see the pattern? so i decided to

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-07 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 01:50:44 + Freddy via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: I would like if usize wasn't implictly convertable to uint or ulong me too, but this change is too radical. it will not break any of my own code ('cause i used to write casts for that stupid 64-bit

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-07 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 02:29:49 + Freddy via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Monday, 8 December 2014 at 02:04:58 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 01:50:44 + Freddy via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: I would like if usize

Re: Find symbol in unknown module at compile time?

2014-12-07 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 02:58:45 + bitwise via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: if you want to allow external pragmas that allows poking private module data... well, just make everything in that module public, you just killed the whole protection thing. ;-) This is

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 11:37:00 + Dominikus Dittes Scherkl via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Monday, 8 December 2014 at 08:46:49 UTC, bearophile wrote: Freddy: Why not keep size_t implictly convertable but disallow it for usize. This is an interesting idea.

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 14:00:25 + Jonathan Marler via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Monday, 8 December 2014 at 11:49:47 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 11:37:00 + Dominikus Dittes Scherkl via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 13:49:30 + Ivan Kazmenko via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Monday, 8 December 2014 at 08:46:49 UTC, bearophile wrote: Freddy: Why not keep size_t implictly convertable but disallow it for usize. This is an interesting idea. (But the name

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 13:49:30 + Ivan Kazmenko via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Monday, 8 December 2014 at 08:46:49 UTC, bearophile wrote: Freddy: Why not keep size_t implictly convertable but disallow it for usize. This is an interesting idea. (But the name

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 15:52:07 + bitwise via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: FWIW, I picked hp D ~2 months ago, and my first project was a reflection library, so I've had a chance to deal with most of the language features at least once so far. The naming and presence of

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 15:05:18 + Jonathan Marler via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: What about 'usize' and 'ptrdiff' ? `sptrdiff`, as i did it in my branch. `ssize` was just an example, i don't like it too. yet `sptrdiff` is still ugly. why 'ptr', what it has to do with

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 15:39:53 + Ivan Kazmenko via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Monday, 8 December 2014 at 14:31:50 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 13:49:30 + Ivan Kazmenko via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 16:03:42 + Kagamin via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Monday, 8 December 2014 at 08:46:49 UTC, bearophile wrote: Freddy: Why not keep size_t implictly convertable but disallow it for usize. This is an interesting idea. (But the name uword

Re: Symbol lookup rules and imports

2014-12-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 14:30:08 -0800 Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: The two-step lookup method, of current scope then imports in current scope, is misunderstood by nearly everyone. this is the clear sign of the existing problem. signature.asc Description:

Re: DIP69: problem with scope grammar - need a new keyword

2014-12-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 20:42:48 + deadalnix via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: If consistency is a measure, the proposal is a winner. ah, it seems to me that consistency never had high priority. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: DIP69: problem with scope grammar - need a new keyword

2014-12-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 23:15:25 + bearophile via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: Walter Bright: I have some ideas, but don't particularly like any of them. But I don't want to bias things, so what ideas do you guys have? In this thread I have seen lot of discussion

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 17:33:48 + Gary Willoughby via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Monday, 8 December 2014 at 01:30:35 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: Hello. i don't like `size_t`. for many month i avoied using it wherever that was possible, 'cause i

Re: D3

2014-12-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 21:08:03 + Brad Anderson via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Monday, 8 December 2014 at 20:21:51 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic via Digitalmars-d wrote: On 12/8/14, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: It seems that D3 is

Re: Symbol lookup rules and imports

2014-12-08 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 19:40:38 -0800 Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On 12/8/2014 7:34 PM, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 14:30:08 -0800 Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: The two-step lookup method

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-09 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 08:26:18 + Kagamin via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Tuesday, 9 December 2014 at 03:48:17 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: i can remember that too, but i prefer to have the things that i can logically deduce. i can deduce `usize`: ah

Re: D3

2014-12-09 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 08:15:00 + Puming via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Tuesday, 9 December 2014 at 05:04:35 UTC, Jeremy DeHaan wrote: On Tuesday, 9 December 2014 at 03:52:01 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 21:08:03 + Brad Anderson

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-09 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 11:09:44 + Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Mon, 2014-12-08 at 07:18 -0800, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote: […] Yeah, I find in my own experience that gdc -O3 tends to produce code that's consistently ~20% faster than dmd -O,

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-09 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 11:34:34 + Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: I am not up to compiling gdc from source, but compiling ldc2 is very straightforward, to the extent that i can't build git head. ;-) Works fine for me, I just built it 15 mins ago. to

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-09 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:34:24 + Gary Willoughby via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Tuesday, 9 December 2014 at 03:48:17 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: http://dlang.org/phobos/std_stdint.html ah, nobody uses that, and it's not even documented. a forgotten

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-09 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:34:24 + Gary Willoughby via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Tuesday, 9 December 2014 at 03:48:17 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: http://dlang.org/phobos/std_stdint.html ah, nobody uses that, and it's not even documented. a forgotten

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-09 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 17:28:15 + Ivan Kazmenko via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: A well-designed language allows to recover from errors with good probability if compiler can recover from error, it should not report the error at all -- 'cause it can fix the code for me.

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-09 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 16:55:22 + Gary Willoughby via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Tuesday, 9 December 2014 at 16:10:10 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: p.s. just out of curiousity: why do you need it? D int types has well-defined size, so i can't see any sense

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-09 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 18:08:48 + bitwise via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: somehow Walter can't accept that after emiting the first error compiler is in undefined state, and trying to pretend that it is in well-defined state or guess what well-defined state must

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-09 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 03:00:56 + bitwise via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: so let intellisense-like systems do the guesswork. i don't trust a compiler that tries to guess what i mean instead of reporting the error and stop right there. i.e. i once tried PL/1

Re: Very short anonymous survey

2014-12-10 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 08:02:22 + Kagamin via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: The form doesn't accept my input. Just provide your cool build system so people could use it to build the library. or even better: provide sh-script to build the thing. it can be suboptimal, but if

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-10 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 10:36:22 + Ivan Kazmenko via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Wednesday, 10 December 2014 at 02:15:04 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 17:28:15 + Ivan Kazmenko via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote

Re: No runtime attribute?

2014-12-10 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 10:46:56 + bearophile via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: The #[no_std] attribute is used to avoid the runtime in Rust. Do we have any use for a @noruntime attribute in D? All @noruntime functions are also @nogc (so you don't need to put both

Re: DIP69 - Implement scope for escape proof references

2014-12-11 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 23:06:13 -0800 Shammah Chancellor via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: Was afraid that would break too much code. No, this is super important. Break it all! alas, not in this life. each break our code just making resistance harder. ;-) signature.asc

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-11 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 17:17:11 -0800 Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On 12/10/2014 10:28 AM, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote: Yeah, the compiler cannot instantiate the template without access to the full body. It *could*, though, if we were to store

Re: problem with size_t and an easy solution

2014-12-11 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 05:56:23 + Ivan Kazmenko via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On the other hand, I'm fine with the current state, and without evidence from your side, it's not going to change. So the inversion of who should bring proofs is also a false claim. it's

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-11 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 08:57:56 + Tobias Pankrath via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: Storing it as body IR accomplishes nothing practical over storing it as source file, i.e. .di files. except that there's no need to parse source code over and over again, which

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-11 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 09:18:05 + Tobias Pankrath via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: Which usually hold an AST in memory anyway. We have a fast parser, parsing even a big codebase once is really not a problem, see DCD for example. If the only advantage is to skip a

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-11 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 09:44:49 + John Colvin via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: Parsing is so fast it's not worth spending huge numbers of man-hours building an effective cacheing system for it. and generating machine code is useless at all, it's enough to simply improve

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-11 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 10:51:21 + Tobias Pankrath via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: Come on, that is not even a half decent analogy. it is. you can't see any uses of (semi)compiled module files (and i can; it's essential for component framework, for example). i

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-11 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 12:04:28 + Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: BlackBox! A fellow user. :) yeah! i miss BCB almost every day i'm doing any coding. Another example, the Oberon operating system, specially the System 3 Gadgets framework. yep, they have the

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-11 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 12:02:43 + Tobias Pankrath via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Thursday, 11 December 2014 at 11:46:50 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: you can't see how this can help 'cause we don't have such AST-companions yet. i can see how

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-11 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 12:06:39 + Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: with AST-companions D is in position to occupy that niche. D is c-like, D has great metaprogramming abilities, D is open-source. it's doomed to win. To be honest, with .NET Native

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-11 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 12:11:35 + Tobias Pankrath via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: If what you have in mind is indeed impossible with current object files, it may be worthwhile to create our own. But as I see it, the only benefit of storing an AST is compilation speed,

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-11 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 08:32:39 +0100 Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On 2014-12-11 09:05, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: except that there's no need to parse source code over and over again, which is good for other tools (like completion suggesting

Re: Why do you write D2 compiler using C++ language?

2014-12-13 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 11:38:47 + ddj via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: You already have better D1. as D2 wasn't created from the scratch, it was easier to reuse already written c++ code. there is no big difference in having D2 compiler written in c++ or in D1, both of them

Re: Why do you write D2 compiler using C++ language?

2014-12-13 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 13:55:27 + ddj via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: Replacing unsupported D1 with unfinished D2 does not seem to me like good idea for language. that's right. we need D3, 'cause D2 is cluttered with legacy crap. ;-) But so many issues and bug fixes

Re: Why do you write D2 compiler using C++ language?

2014-12-13 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 14:48:03 + ddj via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: nobody forces you to use current developement versions. stick with the version of your choice (2.066 for example), that's all. Unfortunately it is unclear to me how many current bugs/issues are

Re: D game development: a call to action

2014-12-13 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 11:04:45 +1000 Manu via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: I'm also very interested in experiments writing game code on commercial-style engines. Hobby engines are nice, but we will get a much better feel for using D in the AAA games industry if a

Re: D game development: a call to action

2014-12-13 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 01:28:45 + Israel via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: What my problem is, why hasnt the D standard library implemented a multimedia library from the ones already available? instead of having to go and look for one. exactly why any other language except

Re: D game development: a call to action

2014-12-13 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 17:20:48 +1000 Manu via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On 14 December 2014 at 16:57, ketmar via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 11:04:45 +1000 Manu via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: I'm also

Re: D game development: a call to action

2014-12-14 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 17:45:06 +1000 Manu via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: Hard to describe... just the sort you'd find in a big commercial game. Perhaps I could say something like, highly optimised and purpose specific, as opposed to generalised and flexible/object

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-14 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 18:37:26 +1000 Manu via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: docs, even if they don't really know the language, after all, what is the point of documentation if not to teach the language... i think that something is *VERY* wrong with them. for teaching the

Re: DIP69 - Implement scope for escape proof references

2014-12-14 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 09:04:58 + Paolo Invernizzi via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: Philippe Sigaud Excellent D Templates: A Tutorial... the MANTRA... XXX templates are not XXXs, they are templates. With XXX being any of (function, struct, class, interface, union). and

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-14 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 22:13:13 +1300 Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: Now I'm back to the GUI situation. talking about GUI toolkits. there is NONE. yep, i know about DWT, GtkD and alot of other projects. they suck. they suck badly. there was a great project

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-14 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 11:24:30 +0200 ketmar via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 22:13:13 +1300 Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: Now I'm back to the GUI situation. talking about GUI toolkits. there is NONE. yep, i know

i want my bounty!

2014-12-14 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
there is preapproved bounty ER in bugzilla: https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11070 i did that, where is my bounty?! but talking seriously, i don't need any bounty, i just want somebody to take a look at that and either tell me what to fix or integrate it in mainline. along with this one:

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-14 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 22:52:59 +1300 Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: p.s. sorry for me being rude. DWT, GtkD and others are great project of great value. it's not about their authors doing wrong things, that's about i want something completely different!

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-14 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:18:26 + yawniek via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: well, i am not so sure that commercial models are needed, but instead of trying to invent a new gui library, make the os available for 32/64. fix all those projects that deal with db, gui etc.

Re: DUB fails to build a dynamic library on Linux

2014-12-14 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:24:13 + Gabor Mezo via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Sunday, 14 December 2014 at 16:06:25 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote: On 12/14/2014 03:50 PM, Gabor Mezo wrote: Hello, I've created a simple db dynamic lib project.

Re: DUB fails to build a dynamic library on Linux

2014-12-14 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:57:20 + Gabor Mezo via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: Thank you for your quick help, that was it. I do (or at least I'm trying to do) hobbyist D programming as you guys, that's why I come here to cry at Sunday evening. :) ah, that's ok. but you'd

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 07:48:36 + Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: Well, lots of Fortune 500 companies do. google? fb? twitter? instagram? watsapp? those are companies that processes massive traffic. without windows. i prefer to look at them instead of ACME

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 13:19:01 +1100 Daniel Murphy via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote in message news:mailman.3160.1418550079.9932.digitalmar...@puremagic.com... but talking seriously, i don't need any bounty, i just want somebody to take

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 09:14:26 + Dicebot via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: Choosing the way of throwing away code is up to you. Contributing in a way such it is acknowledged by upstream is defined by, coincidentally, upstream. The line gets drawn exactly at the moment

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 09:07:53 + uri via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: You were looking forward to that, in fact I'd say trolling for it... that's not the first time i asking why bugzilla is still able to host patches. i just wanted to make myself sure that any input is

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 09:46:29 + uri via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: Ideally there'd be a tool to turn Bugzilla patch submission into a Github PR. But again it's work *someone* has to do and it isn't *that* much of a hurdle to get onto Github with a made up account

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 10:01:03 + Dicebot via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Monday, 15 December 2014 at 09:31:28 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 09:07:53 + uri via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: You were looking

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 10:47:29 + John Colvin via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: The attachment feature is useful (and is used) for listing large test-cases, stack traces etc. It is not an exclusive feature for patches. i don't ever talked about disabling attaches. but

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 11:27:30 + Mengu via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: first of all, judging by your language, you don't seem like a guy who follows guidelines. why are you even complaining if it's written here or there? 'cause i see something strange in blaming me for

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 14:00:34 + MattCoder via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Monday, 15 December 2014 at 10:11:37 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: ... i'm accepting the fact that D is doomed to be a toy, which ocasionally used here and there. i tried to fight

Re: Bug in compiler?

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 16:01:35 +0200 Shachar Shemesh via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: Please consider the following program: import std.exception; void main() { struct A { int a; @disable this(this); @disable ref A opAssign(const ref

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 11:50:32 -0500 Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: your response was what, peasant? I don't care, that's my patch take it or leave it. It doesn't surprise me that your patch was missed or ignored. this is the equal answer to github or

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 12:51:47 -0500 Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: and this is not only about this particular patch, it's about the things i already mentioned in this discussion. such as having tools that says that they are for patches and then

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 19:04:36 + Piotrek via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Monday, 15 December 2014 at 18:05:22 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: i will not use github under any circumstances Can I ask why? Seriosly. If I may know what you care

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 19:01:19 + Jeremy DeHaan via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: I don't understand your desire to avoid github, but what ever your reasons if you are willing to write updates for D there should be a way for you to get that into a pull request. Perhaps

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 11:39:40 -0800 H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 09:30:59PM +0200, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 19:04:36 + Piotrek via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Monday, 15

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-15 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 21:08:57 + Wyatt via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Monday, 15 December 2014 at 20:29:23 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: sadly, i'm maintaining my patchset in the form of .patch files. git is great for continuous integration, but i

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-16 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 13:24:34 +1300 Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On 16/12/2014 8:30 a.m., ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: so as you can see this is not about GPL or something. this is about attitude which i don't like. maybe i'm overreacting, but i'm

Re: D game development: a call to action

2014-12-16 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 23:40:43 + bitwise via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: @manu I'm a little confused.. Looking through your Fuji/Source/Drivers folder, I see folders for IPhone and Android, among others... does your engine actually run on these platforms? I was

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-16 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 21:20:39 +1300 Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: Yes but in this case this is mute. You will talk about Github negatively. You having an account won't cause you to talk positively about it. but it will add one more user to their

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-17 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 18:06:25 +1000 Manu via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: I'd suggest to look at high-quality commercial documentation, like MSDN or wherever. please, no! the fact that you are used to it doesn't mean that msdn is a quality dox. besides, msdn references are

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-17 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 18:09:00 +1000 Manu via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On 15 December 2014 at 06:44, Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On 2014-12-14 09:37, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote: They immediately made comments about

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-17 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 18:41:06 +1000 Manu via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: Do we have any vector's into Microsoft to get fixes for D'd debugging experience into their debugger? Are there any sympathetic developers at MS? haha. they can't do C99 for decades, so i bet that

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-17 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 09:48:26 + Tobias Pankrath via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: std.container.Array(T) if(is(Unqual!T == bool)) vs. std.container.Array(T) if(!is(Unqual!T == bool)). That's super unhelpful for newcomers. that's why newcomers should NOT try to learn the

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-17 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 10:44:25 + Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Wednesday, 17 December 2014 at 10:21:53 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 18:41:06 +1000 Manu via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: Do we have

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-17 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 10:49:19 + Tobias Pankrath via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Wednesday, 17 December 2014 at 10:33:34 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 09:48:26 + Tobias Pankrath via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-17 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 15:01:30 + Wyatt via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: besides, msdn references are exactly what phobos documentation is: description of functions. will msdn reference dox help you to learn msvc? yet you citing it as high-quality and blaming phobos

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-17 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 16:08:43 + Chris via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: Btw, a guy I know could go into a D program I had written and change things as needed by simply looking at the code and the library reference. He had no previous knowledge of D. It is possible to

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-17 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 11:47:24 -0800 Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: Storing it as body IR accomplishes nothing practical over storing it as source file, i.e. .di files. except that there's no need to parse source code over and over again, which is good

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 08:17:47 + Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Wednesday, 17 December 2014 at 22:24:09 UTC, Sean Kelly wrote: On Wednesday, 17 December 2014 at 17:09:34 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 12/4/14 6:39 PM, deadalnix wrote: On

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 08:09:08 + via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Thursday, 18 December 2014 at 01:16:38 UTC, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 12:37:43AM +, via Digitalmars-d wrote: Regular HD I/O is quite slow, but with fast SSD

Re: i want my bounty!

2014-12-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 08:49:37 + Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On 17 December 2014 at 17:50, Nick Treleaven via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On 15/12/2014 19:39, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote: If you put your git repo online

Re: Do everything in Java…

2014-12-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 09:37:35 + via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Thursday, 18 December 2014 at 08:56:29 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: didn't i say that the whole 64-bit hype sux? ;-) that's about memory as database. Did you? :-) Regular HDD is at 100

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:24:36 +1000 Manu via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On 17 December 2014 at 20:33, ketmar via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 09:48:26 + Tobias Pankrath via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:13:33 +1000 Manu via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: One thing I know for sure, is when they are confronted with constraints, especially on templates, they have absolutely no idea what they're looking at... did they ever tried to learn the language?

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 10:23:32 + Ondra via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: What about stop flaming and do some research on this. Create some questionnare of some sort and ask D lang developers what was hard for them while learning. What they found difficult about language

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 10:54:22 + Ondra via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: No. There are almost no examples on practical usage of packages. Have you tried to use e.g.: std.json from scratch with only reading documentation without googling forums for help how to actually

Re: Lost a new commercial user this week :(

2014-12-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 21:15:25 +1000 Manu via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: I couldn't disagree more. People aren't allocated work time to read books. Books are for students or language enthusiasts who want to learn about programming in their home time. That doesn't apply

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