Re: Thoughts from newcommer

2017-04-16 Thread Isaac Gouy via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 16 April 2017 at 08:44:07 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: When anyone mentions the Compiler Shootout for the last 10 years, Isaac always pops up and says he won't put it on his site. I wish he'd just go away. I wish the D community would stop using the benchmarks game as an excuse.

Re: Thoughts from newcommer

2017-04-16 Thread Isaac Gouy via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 16 April 2017 at 04:19:56 UTC, Joakim wrote: came out tops if I weighted time, memory, and source code size equally. Not always highest, as Free Pascal would sometimes beat it, but D usually won. You juggled the numbers to get a result ;-) This one doesn't show any benchmarks

Re: Thoughts from newcommer

2017-04-15 Thread Isaac Gouy via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 13 April 2017 at 03:29:26 UTC, Joakim wrote: Cooperative with what? He chose not to include D anymore, which at one point dominated the shootout, and says we should just start our own site: https://forum.dlang.org/post/no8klt$1d1i$1...@digitalmars.com When did D dominate?

Re: The Computer Language Benchmarks Game

2016-08-09 Thread Isaac Gouy via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 4 August 2016 at 20:15:35 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote: but the measurement code is available for others to use It's down to you -- "If you're interested in something not shown on the benchmarks game website then please take the program source code and the measurement scripts and

Re: The Computer Language Benchmarks Game

2016-08-08 Thread Isaac Gouy via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 8 August 2016 at 17:11:54 UTC, Meta wrote: Despite the fact that comparing benchmarks across languages tells you very little about how "fast" that language is … Doing so would at-least offer something for people to consider.

Re: The Computer Language Benchmarks Game

2016-08-08 Thread Isaac Gouy via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 8 August 2016 at 00:44:46 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 8/7/2016 10:53 AM, Isaac Gouy wrote: Rather than only being dismissive, How did you get from Yeah, I wouldn't bother with it, either. to If you've changed your mind about putting D back on the site, we'd be happy to help.

Re: The Computer Language Benchmarks Game

2016-08-08 Thread Isaac Gouy via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 8 August 2016 at 00:15:09 UTC, jmh530 wrote: I think he's referring to a HPC cluster running chapel vs. C++ versions of programs. Let's not speculate about Russel Winder's comment. The advantage to Chapel is its simplicity and expressiveness. That does seem to be the selling

Re: The Computer Language Benchmarks Game

2016-08-07 Thread Isaac Gouy via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 7 August 2016 at 21:19:54 UTC, qznc wrote: Comparing so many languages is too broad. We need more specific benchmarks which must be looked at in more detail. "Chapel programs versus C++ g++" just compares 2. Where are those "more specific benchmarks" ? If you want to answer the

Re: The Computer Language Benchmarks Game

2016-08-07 Thread Isaac Gouy via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 7 August 2016 at 05:04:29 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: Ultimately, my opinion is that the benchmark is outdated and not useful today. I ignore it, if anybody cites the benchmark game for performance measurements. Yeah, I wouldn't bother with it, either. Rather than only being

Re: The Computer Language Benchmarks Game

2016-08-07 Thread Isaac Gouy via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 7 August 2016 at 13:30:27 UTC, Russel Winder wrote: In the end a bit of X10 or Chapel code running on a Blue Gene ro Cray is going to annihilate any code written in Fortran, FORTRAN, C++, C, or any other language for performance.

Re: The Computer Language Benchmarks Game

2016-08-05 Thread Isaac Gouy via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 5 August 2016 at 05:22:07 UTC, ZombineDev wrote: ... It seems that this one has a more active community around it... ? https://alioth.debian.org/activity/?group_id=100815 ;-)

Re: The Computer Language Benchmarks Game

2016-08-05 Thread Isaac Gouy via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 4 August 2016 at 20:15:35 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote: but the measurement code is available for others to use: Someone had those benchmarks game measurement scripts working with D - a couple of years ago - but then … ? https://forum.dlang.org/post/lvajbi$1477$1...@digitalmars.com

Re: Benchmarking suite

2015-09-09 Thread Isaac Gouy via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 8 September 2015 at 21:06:26 UTC, qznc wrote: Afaik the Erlang runtime does not interrupt processes. Depends what you mean by "processes" :-) In this comparison it is actually interesting, because D has its own bignum implementation in the standard library. There you go! On

Re: Benchmarking suite

2015-09-08 Thread Isaac Gouy via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 8 September 2015 at 09:27:13 UTC, qznc wrote: For example, threadring measures context switching. thread-ring has aged badly. It was added when the measurements were only made on single-core hardware, and Erlang's huge number of lightweight processes seemed interesting ;-)

Re: Benchmarking suite

2015-09-08 Thread Isaac Gouy via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 29 August 2015 at 12:05:18 UTC, qznc wrote: I started something on my own. Kudos to qznc! The C/C++ programs were selected quite randomly. Note: There are separate C and C++ programs shown on the benchmarks game -- so for something like regex-dna there's a C program using

Re: dmd codegen improvements

2015-08-24 Thread Isaac Gouy via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 24 August 2015 at 08:59:57 UTC, ixid wrote: -snip- People love competitions, the current benchmark site that seems to weirdly dislike D is one of people's go to references. I do not have the ability to do this but it would seem like an excellent project for someone outside the major

Re: dmd codegen improvements

2015-08-24 Thread Isaac Gouy via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 24 August 2015 at 15:36:42 UTC, ixid wrote: -snip- Yes, it requires someone to pick up the baton for what is clearly a very significant task. Your site is excellent and it's very unfortunate that D is absent. iirc I asked Peter Alexander about progress last December and he had

Re: Benchmark of D against other languages

2015-04-27 Thread Isaac Gouy via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 3 April 2015 at 02:20:24 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote: not evaluated by the Computer Language Benchmarks Game any more. iirc Some people in the D community were going to make their own measurements of benchmarks game tasks and publish them. Has that happened? I just noticed someone

Re: Increasing D's visibility

2014-09-17 Thread Isaac Gouy via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 17 September 2014 at 18:30:37 UTC, David Nadlinger wrote: -snip- On a somewhat related note, I've been working on a CI system to keep tabs on the compile-time/run-time performance, memory usage and file size for our compilers. Maybe you've seen Emery Berger's work on

Re: Increasing D's visibility

2014-09-17 Thread Isaac Gouy via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 September 2014 at 00:59:41 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: -snip- Off-topic question: I've been wondering, how do you magically appear here every time the Shootout is mentioned? Google magic. The project was renamed 6 years ago, it's the benchmarks game. Google shootout and

Re: Increasing D's visibility

2014-09-16 Thread Isaac Gouy via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 16 September 2014 at 21:04:59 UTC, Peter Alexander wrote: -snip- I'll take a stab at it. Will give me something to do on my commute :-) (assuming his scripts work, or can be made to work on OS X). It'll be interesting to see which linux stuff is missing: -- without libgtop2 you

Re: Increasing D's visibility

2014-09-15 Thread Isaac Gouy via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 15 September 2014 at 20:09:31 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote: # unbelievable we're still missing in the programming language shootout http://benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org/ D is one of the 30 or so language implementations not measured on Q6600 that were measured on Pentium 4 before

Re: Increasing D's visibility

2014-09-15 Thread Isaac Gouy via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 15 September 2014 at 23:56:23 UTC, bearophile wrote: -snip- By now - if they had actually made measurements, and published and promoted them - their website would be highly ranked. This is probably false, for two or more reasons. It's so much less-effort to assume failure than to

Re: Increasing D's visibility

2014-09-15 Thread Isaac Gouy via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 16 September 2014 at 02:20:18 UTC, Freddy wrote: What The D community do wrong in the first place? Nothing. There are just too many language implementations. It takes more time than I choose to donate. Been there; done that.

Re: Increasing D's visibility

2014-09-15 Thread Isaac Gouy via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 16 September 2014 at 03:53:10 UTC, Thomas Mader wrote: I am in the progress of building a benchmarking suite … But don't expect fast progress. ;-) Well, for faster progress, someone could just take the Python scripts from the benchmarks game, measure programs and figure out how