On Thursday, 16 August 2018 at 20:30:26 UTC, John Belmonte wrote:
These are novel control structures for managing concurrency.
Combining this with cooperative multitasking and explicit,
plainly-visible context switching (i.e. async/await-- sorry
Olshansky) yields something truly at the
On Tuesday, 28 August 2018 at 20:05:32 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
But that is the point, this is Python specific, and yet the
motivating example is a misunderstanding of how Go is used.
This inconsistency seriously undermines the general argument.
I don't believe I misunderstand how Go is
On Tue, 2018-08-28 at 03:36 +, John Belmonte via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> On Wednesday, 22 August 2018 at 16:49:01 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
> > Have you tried asyncio in the Python standard library? Is Trio
> > better?
>
> The library that Guido admits is a disaster?
>
On Wednesday, 22 August 2018 at 16:49:01 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
Have you tried asyncio in the Python standard library? Is Trio
better?
The library that Guido admits is a disaster?
https://twitter.com/gvanrossum/status/938445451908472832
Trio and libraries like it have evolved out of
On Wed, 2018-08-22 at 12:00 -0700, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
[…]
>
> I approached the article from a language-independent viewpoint. While
> I
> know a little bit of Python, I wasn't really very interested in the
> Python-specific aspects of the article, nor in the specific
>
On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 05:56:09PM +0100, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-08-16 at 16:33 -0700, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> […]
> > I read both articles, and am quite impressed by the revolutionary
> > way of looking at concurrency. It provides a clean(er)
On Fri, 2018-08-17 at 18:36 +1200, rikki cattermole via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> After reading the article I can say, it isn't any better than async
> and
> await for dependencies. You still need an event loop.
>
> […]
Or a work stealing threadpool.
Event loops are only really needed in contexts
On Thu, 2018-08-16 at 16:33 -0700, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>
[…]
> I read both articles, and am quite impressed by the revolutionary way
> of
> looking at concurrency. It provides a clean(er) abstraction that can
> be
> reasoned about much more easily than currently prevalent models
On Thu, 2018-08-16 at 20:30 +, John Belmonte via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> This is actually not about war; rather the peace and prosperity
> of people writing concurrent programs.
>
> (Andrei, I hope you are reading and will check out
>
On Friday, 17 August 2018 at 06:36:36 UTC, rikki cattermole wrote:
Because we have an event loop, we don't need a nursery! It
comes free of charge. It also means we don't need that with
statement... hang on that now becomes await and async! Just
without the await (auto added in scope(exit),
On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 06:36:36PM +1200, rikki cattermole via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> After reading the article I can say, it isn't any better than async
> and await for dependencies. You still need an event loop.
>
> The problem is that joining that happens at the end of that block
> needs to
After reading the article I can say, it isn't any better than async and
await for dependencies. You still need an event loop.
The problem is that joining that happens at the end of that block needs
to run the event loop for iterations until it completes. Which is
wonderful if you're not doing
On Thursday, 16 August 2018 at 23:33:04 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
However, it would seem to require language support, no? It's
going to be a tough sell to Walter & Andrei if it requires
language support. (Though IMO it's worth it.)
To implement scoped nursery and cancellation? I hope it could
On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 08:30:26PM +, John Belmonte via Digitalmars-d wrote:
[...]
> (Andrei, I hope you are reading and will check out
> https://vorpus.org/blog/notes-on-structured-concurrency-or-go-statement-considered-harmful/
> and
This is actually not about war; rather the peace and prosperity
of people writing concurrent programs.
(Andrei, I hope you are reading and will check out
https://vorpus.org/blog/notes-on-structured-concurrency-or-go-statement-considered-harmful/
and
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