Re: Split digitalmars.D newsgroup into .D and .D2 newsgroups?

2009-05-12 Thread Georg Wrede
No. If we had D and D2, then we'll need D3 (and D4). And we don't need both a D([1]) and a D.learn newsgroup. Not enough volume three groups. We need _D.programming_ and _D.future_, that's all. Once they're up, we post into d.learn that please post in D.programming instead, and in D

Re: Split digitalmars.D newsgroup into .D and .D2 newsgroups?

2009-05-12 Thread Leandro Lucarella
Jarrett Billingsley, el 12 de mayo a las 01:01 me escribiste: On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote: Is this a good idea? My gut reaction is 'yes'. But what would be left on .D without the hundred-post threads about ranges? There really _isn't_

Re: dmd 1.045 / 2.030 release

2009-05-12 Thread Paul D. Anderson
Tomas Lindquist Olsen Wrote: Is there a reason for the missing announcement ? http://digitalmars.com/d/1.0/changelog.html#new1_045 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/2.0/changelog.html#new2_030 and what happened to 1.044 ? -Tomas Walter usuallly updates the changelog pages just before the

Re: dmd 1.045 / 2.030 release

2009-05-12 Thread Tomas Lindquist Olsen
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Paul D. Anderson paul.d.removethis.ander...@comcast.andthis.net wrote: Tomas Lindquist Olsen Wrote: Is there a reason for the missing announcement ? http://digitalmars.com/d/1.0/changelog.html#new1_045 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/2.0/changelog.html#new2_030

Re: dmd 1.045 / 2.030 release

2009-05-12 Thread Walter Bright
Tomas Lindquist Olsen wrote: Is there a reason for the missing announcement ? Yes, I sent it to people who'd asked for a prerelease so they could check their builds against it.

Re: dmd 1.045 / 2.030 release

2009-05-12 Thread dsimcha
== Quote from Tomas Lindquist Olsen (tomas.l.ol...@gmail.com)'s article Is there a reason for the missing announcement ? http://digitalmars.com/d/1.0/changelog.html#new1_045 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/2.0/changelog.html#new2_030 and what happened to 1.044 ? -Tomas Probably because it

Re: dmd 1.045 / 2.030 release

2009-05-12 Thread Tomas Lindquist Olsen
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote: Tomas Lindquist Olsen wrote: Is there a reason for the missing announcement ? Yes, I sent it to people who'd asked for a prerelease so they could check their builds against it. I do apologize if I made a lot

Re: dmd 1.045 / 2.030 release

2009-05-12 Thread Robert Jacques
On Tue, 12 May 2009 12:41:50 -0400, dsimcha dsim...@yahoo.com wrote: == Quote from Tomas Lindquist Olsen (tomas.l.ol...@gmail.com)'s article Is there a reason for the missing announcement ? http://digitalmars.com/d/1.0/changelog.html#new1_045

Re: dmd 1.045 / 2.030 release

2009-05-12 Thread grauzone
* added .typeinfo to ClassInfo Very nice. Maybe I can go remove some hacks from my code now...

Re: dmd 1.045 / 2.030 release

2009-05-12 Thread dsimcha
== Quote from Robert Jacques (sandf...@jhu.edu)'s article On Tue, 12 May 2009 12:41:50 -0400, dsimcha dsim...@yahoo.com wrote: == Quote from Tomas Lindquist Olsen (tomas.l.ol...@gmail.com)'s article Is there a reason for the missing announcement ?

Re: Split digitalmars.D newsgroup into .D and .D2 newsgroups?

2009-05-12 Thread Knud Soerensen
What about D.programming and D.compilers Then all programming questions goes to D.programming and D.compilers could be the goto group for discussion on compiler design. Close D.learn and D.gnu. I agree the D.learn sounds like it is for newbies. And I think that all the compilers could benefit

Re: dmd 1.045 / 2.030 release

2009-05-12 Thread Tomas Lindquist Olsen
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote: Tomas Lindquist Olsen wrote: Is there a reason for the missing announcement ? Yes, I sent it to people who'd asked for a prerelease so they could check their builds against it. I do apologize if I made a lot

Re: Split digitalmars.D newsgroup into .D and .D2 newsgroups?

2009-05-12 Thread Tomas Lindquist Olsen
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote: Is this a good idea? I think it's a great idea, there's some decent arguments that they should have more general names, but I like the idea that you'd always know which group to look in for specific issues, even

Re: dmd 1.045 / 2.030 release

2009-05-12 Thread Walter Bright
Tomas Lindquist Olsen wrote: I do apologize if I made a lot of people download a broken DMD release, but ... Some people watch the changelog, so if you don't want to release to be public, don't update the site! I suppose at this point we might as well make it official.

Re: dmd 1.045 / 2.030 release

2009-05-12 Thread Walter Bright
dsimcha wrote: Or is the automatic synchronization of shared variables part not supposed to be implemented yet? The implementation of the synchronization of shared variables is not done yet. It's a big step to just make the default thread local, and to upgrade the static type system.

Re: dmd 1.045 / 2.030 release

2009-05-12 Thread dsimcha
== Quote from Walter Bright (newshou...@digitalmars.com)'s article dsimcha wrote: Or is the automatic synchronization of shared variables part not supposed to be implemented yet? The implementation of the synchronization of shared variables is not done yet. It's a big step to just make

Re: Split digitalmars.D newsgroup into .D and .D2 newsgroups?

2009-05-12 Thread Walter Bright
Tomas Lindquist Olsen wrote: I think it's a great idea, there's some decent arguments that they should have more general names, but I like the idea that you'd always know which group to look in for specific issues, even when we're at D4! I do have reservations about the idea, based on

Re: Split digitalmars.D newsgroup into .D and .D2 newsgroups?

2009-05-12 Thread Tomas Lindquist Olsen
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote: Tomas Lindquist Olsen wrote: I think it's a great idea, there's some decent arguments that they should have more general names, but I like the idea that you'd always know which group to look in for specific

Re: dmd 1.045 / 2.030 release

2009-05-12 Thread bearophile
Walter Bright: I suppose at this point we might as well make it official. I can see a large number of bugfixes. Lot of work. DMD v1.042 compiles my dlibs fine. But if I try to compile them with v1.045 the compiler prints before stopping: Assertion failure: '0' on line 136 in file

Re: Split digitalmars.D newsgroup into .D and .D2 newsgroups?

2009-05-12 Thread BLS
Walter Bright wrote: Is this a good idea? No, promoting D also means having a couple of newsgroup entries each day. Otherwise you'll have several 10 entries a month D newsgroups and this imo not very appealing to new visitors. In other words, Bier erm, quantity rulez. Björn

Re: Split digitalmars.D newsgroup into .D and .D2 newsgroups?

2009-05-12 Thread Walter Bright
Tomas Lindquist Olsen wrote: However, why propose it if you don't like the idea in the first place ? I changed my mind.

Re: Split digitalmars.D newsgroup into .D and .D2 newsgroups?

2009-05-12 Thread Walter Bright
BLS wrote: No, promoting D also means having a couple of newsgroup entries each day. Otherwise you'll have several 10 entries a month D newsgroups and this imo not very appealing to new visitors. In other words, Bier erm, quantity rulez. Yeah, I had second thoughts along those same lines.

Re: Split digitalmars.D newsgroup into .D and .D2 newsgroups?

2009-05-12 Thread Lutger
Walter Bright wrote: Tomas Lindquist Olsen wrote: I think it's a great idea, there's some decent arguments that they should have more general names, but I like the idea that you'd always know which group to look in for specific issues, even when we're at D4! I do have reservations about

Re: dmd 1.045 / 2.030 release

2009-05-12 Thread Walter Bright
bearophile wrote: Walter Bright: I suppose at this point we might as well make it official. I can see a large number of bugfixes. Lot of work. DMD v1.042 compiles my dlibs fine. But if I try to compile them with v1.045 the compiler prints before stopping: Assertion failure: '0' on line 136

Re: dmd 1.045 / 2.030 release

2009-05-12 Thread dsimcha
== Quote from Walter Bright (newshou...@digitalmars.com)'s article bearophile wrote: Walter Bright: I suppose at this point we might as well make it official. I can see a large number of bugfixes. Lot of work. DMD v1.042 compiles my dlibs fine. But if I try to compile them with

Re: dmd 1.045 / 2.030 release

2009-05-12 Thread Walter Bright
dsimcha wrote: So __gshared is expected to stick around as part of the spec long term? Yes. It's not something that you just hacked in there for now so that, for example, druntime would compile? It's so users can cowboy quick and dirty changes to get their code to work. It isn't allowed

Re: Split digitalmars.D newsgroup into .D and .D2 newsgroups?

2009-05-12 Thread Derek Parnell
On Tue, 12 May 2009 15:59:05 -0500, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Walter Bright wrote: BLS wrote: No, promoting D also means having a couple of newsgroup entries each day. Otherwise you'll have several 10 entries a month D newsgroups and this imo not very appealing to new visitors. In other

Re: Split digitalmars.D newsgroup into .D and .D2 newsgroups?

2009-05-12 Thread BLS
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Walter Bright wrote: BLS wrote: No, promoting D also means having a couple of newsgroup entries each day. Otherwise you'll have several 10 entries a month D newsgroups and this imo not very appealing to new visitors. In other words, Bier erm, quantity rulez.

Re: Split digitalmars.D newsgroup into .D and .D2 newsgroups?

2009-05-12 Thread BLS
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Walter Bright wrote: BLS wrote: No, promoting D also means having a couple of newsgroup entries each day. Otherwise you'll have several 10 entries a month D newsgroups and this imo not very appealing to new visitors. In other words, Bier erm, quantity rulez.

Off topic

2009-05-12 Thread BLS
Derek Parnell wrote: On Tue, 12 May 2009 15:59:05 -0500, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Walter Bright wrote: BLS wrote: No, promoting D also means having a couple of newsgroup entries each day. Otherwise you'll have several 10 entries a month D newsgroups and this imo not very appealing to new

Re: Off topic

2009-05-12 Thread Derek Parnell
On Wed, 13 May 2009 00:46:25 +0200, BLS wrote: Derek, may I contact you by Skype ? Sure. -- Derek Parnell Melbourne, Australia skype: derek.j.parnell

Re: dmd 1.045 / 2.030 release

2009-05-12 Thread Christopher Wright
Leandro Lucarella wrote: Walter Bright, el 12 de mayo a las 09:40 me escribiste: Tomas Lindquist Olsen wrote: Is there a reason for the missing announcement ? Yes, I sent it to people who'd asked for a prerelease so they could check their builds against it. I think a better way to do

Re: Split digitalmars.D newsgroup into .D and .D2 newsgroups?

2009-05-12 Thread BCS
Hello BLS, (I think it is not really top secret to talk about what is in use. 1) OCAML, 2) C and 3) ADA ... ) The only surprise there (if any) is OCAML. *Everyone* uses C and, last I heard, Ada is still the #1 choice for Bugs==DeadBodiesOrWorse development. From what I've heard, it's

Re: Split digitalmars.D newsgroup into .D and .D2 newsgroups?

2009-05-12 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
Derek Parnell wrote: On Tue, 12 May 2009 15:59:05 -0500, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Walter Bright wrote: BLS wrote: No, promoting D also means having a couple of newsgroup entries each day. Otherwise you'll have several 10 entries a month D newsgroups and this imo not very appealing to new

Re: dmd 1.045 / 2.030 release

2009-05-12 Thread Leandro Lucarella
Christopher Wright, el 12 de mayo a las 19:14 me escribiste: Leandro Lucarella wrote: Walter Bright, el 12 de mayo a las 09:40 me escribiste: Tomas Lindquist Olsen wrote: Is there a reason for the missing announcement ? Yes, I sent it to people who'd asked for a prerelease so they could

Re: dmd 1.045 / 2.030 release

2009-05-12 Thread Georg Wrede
Tomas Lindquist Olsen wrote: Is there a reason for the missing announcement ? Well, traditionally (as during the last ten years), Walter has made the announcements of new D releases. It's hardly conceivable that he'd forget to do so, all of a sudden. If there's no announcement, then