On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 13:59 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
[…]
rhythmbox is a miserable program (at least on Ubuntu). It has a marvy feature
where it randomly stops playing, and only a cold boot will bring it back. It
also has random problems syncing with my music file database which is on a
On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 20:31 +0100, Jordi Sayol wrote:
[…]
Walter, to avoid this problem you can install a rolling release like Linux
Mint Debian Edition, based on Debian testing.
You just need to keep it upgraded with mintUpdate manager (shield on
panel). Read the Update pack info before.
1/3/2013 12:22 PM, Russel Winder пишет:
On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 13:59 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
[…]
rhythmbox is a miserable program (at least on Ubuntu). It has a marvy feature
where it randomly stops playing, and only a cold boot will bring it back. It
also has random problems syncing with my
On 1/3/2013 12:25 AM, Dmitry Olshansky wrote:
1/3/2013 12:22 PM, Russel Winder пишет:
I threw in the towel on Ubuntu when Unity came out as the default UI.
Going OT but can't agree more :)
I use a command prompt, and don't particular care about the UI g.
On 1/2/2013 11:53 PM, Russel Winder wrote:
On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 13:18 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
[…]
I don't store email on the server, I store it locally.
I think that this is at the heart of your mail problems. It means you
rely on one and only one computer for email. I would find this
Newly discovered changes in C++11 on using const and mutable for
thread safety
http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/C-and-Beyond-2012-Herb-Sutter-You-dont-know-blank-and-blank
On 1/3/2013 12:06 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 11:30 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
Does the latest Ubuntu work properly with SSD drives? I know 10.10 does not. I
have an extra SSD drive I want to try.
No idea I'm afraid.
Googling it reveals the usual wishy-washy answers in
Changes:
- Compiles on DMD 2.061 (and Win64)
- The Win32 back end supports TCP sockets
- Form and REST interface generators have been improved and can handle more
types
- Diet templates support arbitrary D expressions instead of just static
strings for HTML
attributes now. Boolean
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 00:55 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
[…]
Googling it reveals the usual wishy-washy answers in Ubuntu support forums,
even
for 12.10. Nobody seems to know.
Googling for anything to do with Ubuntu is not the issue, the issue is
Linux and SSD. Given the issue about a special
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 00:34 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/3/2013 12:25 AM, Dmitry Olshansky wrote:
1/3/2013 12:22 PM, Russel Winder пишет:
I threw in the towel on Ubuntu when Unity came out as the default UI.
Going OT but can't agree more :)
I use a command prompt, and don't
On 1/3/2013 1:20 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
(*) SSD should have all the flashing management algorithms built in to
the firmware, the OS should not be able to distinguish an SSD from a
random access sequence of bytes accessed as a SATA device. We were
using flash devices in 2004 when all this was
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 01:26 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
[…]
This is incorrect. Google SSD TRIM for why. The short version is yes, SSD
drives
will work without TRIM, but will run slowly. Operating system TRIM support is
necessary for fast SSD operation. TRIM is how the operating system tells
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 01:06:46 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/2/2013 2:45 PM, deadalnix wrote:
On Wednesday, 2 January 2013 at 07:01:02 UTC, Bernard Helyer
wrote:
I am getting a whole _mess_ of warning: statement not
reachable
on everything after a final switch.
I can confirm this.
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 01:26 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
[…]
Windows 7 has TRIM support, Windows XP does not. I have an SSD drive in an XP
machine, it runs as slow as a spinning disk. An SSD in Win7, with TRIM, runs
like lightning.
Linux had TRIM support since 2008, but until late 2010 it
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 09:19:57 UTC, Sönke Ludwig wrote:
Changes:
- Compiles on DMD 2.061 (and Win64)
- The Win32 back end supports TCP sockets
- Form and REST interface generators have been improved and
can handle more types
- Diet templates support arbitrary D expressions
May I suggest you need to do some marketing against:
node.js
vert.x
goweb
revel
Play!
Django
Grails
Ruby on Rails
Flask
Sinatra
Ratpack
Why would anyone want to use vibe.d in preference to any of the above?
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 10:40:40 UTC, Chris wrote:
Pretty cool stuff, congratulations. I've had a look at it and
as I am always looking for alternatives to generally (and
sheepishly) accepted will do technologies like PHP, JS etc. I
would like to test and possibly use it for my own web
Last time I was performance testing vibe it was almost 4x faster
than node.js and 1.5 faster than similar Erlang framework (can't
remember its name now). Plus all static typing and sane async
syntax goodies as a cherry on top. Was enough to convince me, but
other language lovers will probably
On 2013-01-02 22:19, Walter Bright wrote:
Having backups doesn't work so good when the versions and settings
change with a new OS.
I mean, before you upgrade the OS you make sure you have everything
backed up. Then if the installation trashes everything you can at least
rollback to the
On 2013-01-03 11:54, Russel Winder wrote:
May I suggest you need to do some marketing against:
node.js
vert.x
goweb
revel
Play!
Django
Grails
Ruby on Rails
Flask
Sinatra
Ratpack
Why would anyone want to use
On 2013-01-02 22:19, Walter Bright wrote:
Having backups doesn't work so good when the versions and settings
change with a new OS.
I can also add that the latest upgrades I have performed I cloned the
hard drive containing the OS. Then I perform the upgrade on the clone,
if everything works
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 10:55:06 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
May I suggest you need to do some marketing against:
node.js
vert.x
goweb
revel
Play!
Django
Grails
Ruby on Rails
Flask
Sinatra
Ratpack
Why
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 01:06:46 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/2/2013 2:45 PM, deadalnix wrote:
On Wednesday, 2 January 2013 at 07:01:02 UTC, Bernard Helyer
wrote:
I am getting a whole _mess_ of warning: statement not
reachable
on everything after a final switch.
I can confirm this.
On 2 January 2013 18:07, Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote:
On 1/2/2013 9:59 AM, Iain Buclaw wrote:
On Wednesday, 2 January 2013 at 17:53:58 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/2/2013 4:12 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2013-01-02 00:46, Walter Bright wrote:
2. the OS X package
On 3 January 2013 11:45, Iain Buclaw ibuc...@ubuntu.com wrote:
On 2 January 2013 18:07, Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote:
On 1/2/2013 9:59 AM, Iain Buclaw wrote:
On Wednesday, 2 January 2013 at 17:53:58 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/2/2013 4:12 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 10:57:06 UTC, simendsjo wrote:
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 10:40:40 UTC, Chris wrote:
I'm using dmd and vibe on a Linode server without installing
them.
Haven't had a single problem with it.
Good news, but in this case there may be restrictions depending
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 11:53:01 UTC, Chris wrote:
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 10:57:06 UTC, simendsjo wrote:
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 10:40:40 UTC, Chris wrote:
I'm using dmd and vibe on a Linode server without installing
them.
Haven't had a single problem with it.
Good
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 12:22:33 UTC, simendsjo
You only have to download the vibe and dmd zips. As long as you
can run executables you download you should be fine. I haven't
installed them myself, just added some symlinks to the
executables.
I've only created a small vibe site, so
On 01/02/2013 04:18 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
Why would you need to? If your mail store is IMAP, just let it rebuild.
I don't store email on the server, I store it locally.
I gave that up years ago when I ended up with more than one device. Too
much did I get that email on my laptop or my
On 01.01.2013 18:45, Zhenya wrote:
On Tuesday, 1 January 2013 at 17:11:31 UTC, thedeemon wrote:
After switching to this version it started to build my windows app as
a console one. It seems to ignore the subsystem choice, I don't see
any mention of -L/SUBSYSTEM: in generated build scripts
Al 03/01/13 09:26, En/na Russel Winder ha escrit:
On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 20:31 +0100, Jordi Sayol wrote:
[…]
Walter, to avoid this problem you can install a rolling release like Linux
Mint Debian Edition, based on Debian testing.
You just need to keep it upgraded with mintUpdate manager
On 3 January 2013 09:29, Russel Winder rus...@winder.org.uk wrote:
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 00:34 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/3/2013 12:25 AM, Dmitry Olshansky wrote:
1/3/2013 12:22 PM, Russel Winder пишет:
I threw in the towel on Ubuntu when Unity came out as the default UI.
On 1/3/13 3:32 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/2/2013 11:53 PM, Russel Winder wrote:
On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 13:18 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
[…]
I don't store email on the server, I store it locally.
I think that this is at the heart of your mail problems. It means you
rely on one and only one
deadalnix:
I still have code broken all over the place.
D2 is getting its corner case problems sorted out and fixed, but
this still causes some breakage in user code. As more people use
D2, issues are found, discussed and fixed, the breakages will get
more and more uncommon.
Bye,
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 16:43:06 UTC, bearophile wrote:
deadalnix:
I still have code broken all over the place.
D2 is getting its corner case problems sorted out and fixed,
but this still causes some breakage in user code. As more
people use D2, issues are found, discussed and
Am 03.01.2013 11:54, schrieb Russel Winder:
May I suggest you need to do some marketing against:
node.js
vert.x
goweb
revel
Play!
Django
Grails
Ruby on Rails
Flask
Sinatra
Ratpack
Why would anyone want to use
On 01/01/2013 03:46 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
1. the dlang.org isn't updated yet.
Is the change log available somewhere else? I want to spread the news
but it is not very interesting without knowing what has changed. :)
Ali
Fixed here:
http://www.dsource.org/projects/visuald/browser/downloads/VisualD-v0.3.36rc2.exe
Fixed indeed. Thanks a lot!
On 1/3/2013 1:22 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
I don't see that local or server-based storage makes any difference to
the ability to manage email. But maybe I am missing something about your
particular workflow.
1. I control the backups
2. Third parties don't have access to my email history. I
On 1/3/2013 8:28 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 1/3/13 3:32 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
I know. On the other hand, you have control over your email data.
FWIW it's all an illusion. Mail is sent unsecured so securing the mail sent and
received is futile.
I know it doesn't guarantee that there
On 1/3/2013 5:20 AM, Matthew Caron wrote:
On 01/02/2013 04:18 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
Why would you need to? If your mail store is IMAP, just let it rebuild.
I don't store email on the server, I store it locally.
I gave that up years ago when I ended up with more than one device. Too much
On Thursday, January 03, 2013 17:59:22 deadalnix wrote:
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 16:43:06 UTC, bearophile wrote:
deadalnix:
I still have code broken all over the place.
D2 is getting its corner case problems sorted out and fixed,
but this still causes some breakage in user code.
On 1/3/2013 2:17 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
The very existence of TRIM indicates a systemic
problem.
I think you misunderstand what TRIM is. Nobody anticipated a need for TRIM
before SSDs, so no operating system issued TRIM commands.
It's like saying C has a systemic problem because it
Great news, keep up the good work!
Last month I used previous version to make a simple online app
for one contest. I developed in Windows and deployed in Linux (a
small VPS, installed dmd from some package and vibe.d from the
zip archive). I had only a few hours to make that app and
Am Thu, 03 Jan 2013 17:43:03 +0100
schrieb bearophile bearophileh...@lycos.com:
deadalnix:
I still have code broken all over the place.
D2 is getting its corner case problems sorted out and fixed, but
this still causes some breakage in user code. As more people use
D2, issues are
On 1/3/2013 3:27 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
I can also add that the latest upgrades I have performed I cloned the hard drive
containing the OS. Then I perform the upgrade on the clone, if everything works
ok I either run the clone instead or does the same on the original disk.
That's probably
On Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:26:51 Walter Bright wrote:
2. Third parties don't have access to my email history. I don't care what
their privacy policy says - if they have it, they will use it as they
please. You have no way to even discover what they do with it
Unless you're managing your
On 1/3/2013 2:40 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 01:26 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
[…]
Windows 7 has TRIM support, Windows XP does not. I have an SSD drive in an XP
machine, it runs as slow as a spinning disk. An SSD in Win7, with TRIM, runs
like lightning.
Linux had TRIM
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 10:26 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
[…]
1. I control the backups
I run my own SMTP and IMAP server, including it's backing up. I like
control!
2. Third parties don't have access to my email history. I don't care what
their
privacy policy says - if they have it, they
On 01/03/2013 01:26 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/3/2013 1:22 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
I don't see that local or server-based storage makes any difference to
the ability to manage email. But maybe I am missing something about your
particular workflow.
1. I control the backups
The hosting
On 01/03/2013 01:36 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/3/2013 3:27 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
I can also add that the latest upgrades I have performed I cloned the
hard drive
containing the OS. Then I perform the upgrade on the clone, if
everything works
ok I either run the clone instead or does the
On 1/3/2013 10:53 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 10:26 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
[…]
1. I control the backups
I run my own SMTP and IMAP server, including it's backing up. I like
control!
I agree that is the best solution.
On 1/3/2013 10:41 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
Unless you're managing your own e-mail server (which you may be doing - I have
no idea), then even if you store your e-mail locally and delete it from the
server, you're still not saved from this.
I know - but it's less likely, and most ISPs delete
On 1/3/13 1:53 PM, Russel Winder wrote:
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 10:26 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
[…]
1. I control the backups
I run my own SMTP and IMAP server, including it's backing up. I like
control!
2. Third parties don't have access to my email history. I don't care what their
privacy
On Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:49:08 Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/3/2013 10:11 AM, Ali Çehreli wrote:
On 01/01/2013 03:46 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
1. the dlang.org isn't updated yet.
Is the change log available somewhere else? I want to spread the news but
it is not very interesting
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 19:36:31 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
In fact, I think that _every_ item in Phobos' changelog.d was
lost. That information needs to be presented to users.
Agreed – while it is great to finally see the manually maintained
list of fixed bugs being replaced with a
Johannes Pfau, el 3 de January a las 19:37 me escribiste:
Am Thu, 03 Jan 2013 17:43:03 +0100
schrieb bearophile bearophileh...@lycos.com:
deadalnix:
I still have code broken all over the place.
D2 is getting its corner case problems sorted out and fixed, but
this still causes
On 2013-01-03 19:53, Russel Winder wrote:
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 10:26 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
[…]
1. I control the backups
I run my own SMTP and IMAP server, including it's backing up. I like
control!
Next step: becoming your own ISP ?
--
/Jacob Carlborg
Am 03.01.2013 19:37, schrieb thedeemon:
Great news, keep up the good work!
Last month I used previous version to make a simple online app for one
contest. I developed in
Windows and deployed in Linux (a small VPS, installed dmd from some package
and vibe.d from the zip
archive). I had
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 14:17 -0500, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
[…]
Whoa. Four instances I run my own SMTP and IMAP server in about as
many paragraphs. You must feel quite strongly about that...
:-)
Originally I was doing it to make sure I could sys admin
Apache/Postfix/Dovecot (previously
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:00 PM, David Nadlinger s...@klickverbot.at wrote:
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 19:36:31 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
In fact, I think that _every_ item in Phobos' changelog.d was lost. That
information needs to be presented to users.
Agreed – while it is great to
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 21:08 +0100, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
[…]
Next step: becoming your own ISP ?
Define ISP ;-)
--
Russel.
=
Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: sip:russel.win...@ekiga.net
41 Buckmaster
On Wednesday, 2 January 2013 at 18:38:08 UTC, notna wrote:
On 02.01.2013 19:24, Chris wrote:
A D-ating site? :-)
:D Hopefully on the way to something like that... then mainly
for business dating ;)
Ha, cool, thanks for creating this group!
04-Jan-2013 00:12, Russel Winder пишет:
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 21:08 +0100, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
[…]
Next step: becoming your own ISP ?
Define ISP ;-)
Then go for autonomous system aka AS g
--
Dmitry Olshansky
Walter Bright, el 1 de January a las 15:46 me escribiste:
The big news is Win64 is now supported (in alpha).
http://www.digitalmars.com/d/download.html
D 1.076 changelog: http://www.digitalmars.com/d/1.0/changelog.html
BTW, Changelogs looks extremely naked now, I think release notes are
On 13-01-03 3:11 PM, Philippe Sigaud wrote:
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:00 PM, David Nadlinger s...@klickverbot.at
mailto:s...@klickverbot.at wrote:
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 19:36:31 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
In fact, I think that _every_ item in Phobos' changelog.d was
On 3 January 2013 20:27, Leandro Lucarella l...@llucax.com.ar wrote:
Walter Bright, el 1 de January a las 15:46 me escribiste:
The big news is Win64 is now supported (in alpha).
http://www.digitalmars.com/d/download.html
D 1.076 changelog:
On 01/03/2013 10:49 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/3/2013 10:11 AM, Ali Çehreli wrote:
On 01/01/2013 03:46 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
1. the dlang.org isn't updated yet.
Is the change log available somewhere else? I want to spread the news
but it is
not very interesting without knowing what
Pretty cool stuff, congratulations.
+1)
On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 12:11:23 +0100
mist n...@none.none wrote:
Last time I was performance testing vibe it was almost 4x faster
than node.js and 1.5 faster than similar Erlang framework (can't
remember its name now). Plus all static typing and sane async
syntax goodies as a cherry on top.
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 18:36:32 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
On Thursday, January 03, 2013 17:59:22 deadalnix wrote:
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 16:43:06 UTC, bearophile wrote:
deadalnix:
I still have code broken all over the place.
D2 is getting its corner case problems sorted
Well, come ;)
Btw, many of us have to thank you... for the fantastic Mono-D!!!
On 03.01.2013 21:18, alex wrote:
Ha, cool, thanks for creating this group!
Iain Buclaw, el 3 de January a las 21:48 me escribiste:
On 3 January 2013 20:27, Leandro Lucarella l...@llucax.com.ar wrote:
Walter Bright, el 1 de January a las 15:46 me escribiste:
The big news is Win64 is now supported (in alpha).
http://www.digitalmars.com/d/download.html
On Tuesday, 1 January 2013 at 23:46:32 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
The big news is Win64 is now supported (in alpha).
http://www.digitalmars.com/d/download.html
D 1.076 changelog:
http://www.digitalmars.com/d/1.0/changelog.html
A couple issues:
1. the dlang.org isn't updated yet.
2. the OS X
On 1/3/2013 11:17 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Andrei I don't yet run my own SMTP and IMAP server Alexandrescu
Sheesh. How can you ever hold your head up again after that admission?
On 1/3/2013 11:36 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
Oh. Those are links. I was wondering when the data was actually going to be
posted. When compared to the previous ones, it looks like there's only headers
with no information.
The idea is to add explanatory information to the bugzilla issue being
On 1/3/2013 12:27 PM, Leandro Lucarella wrote:
BTW, Changelogs looks extremely naked now, I think release notes are
really needed now. Al least for new features. Is far from ideal to make
people go through a bug report to know how they can adapt their code to
new features.
On the other hand,
On 1/3/2013 3:38 AM, deadalnix wrote:
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 01:06:46 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Please post example to bugzilla.
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=9263
Thank you. (And whaddya know, Kenji just fixed it!)
On 1/3/2013 4:22 PM, deadalnix wrote:
Ran into some trouble to make it work, but awesome news : the GC collecting live
stuff problem is gone (most likely a closure bug rather than a GC bug).
There are still a couple of memory-corrupting closure bugs left. Turns out they
are rather hard to
On Friday, 4 January 2013 at 03:21:46 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/3/2013 3:38 AM, deadalnix wrote:
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 01:06:46 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
Please post example to bugzilla.
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=9263
Thank you. (And whaddya know, Kenji
On 1/3/13 10:07 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/3/2013 11:17 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Andrei I don't yet run my own SMTP and IMAP server Alexandrescu
Sheesh. How can you ever hold your head up again after that admission?
I actually used to, heh. Communigate Pro they called it, beautiful
Walter Bright, el 3 de January a las 19:10 me escribiste:
On 1/3/2013 11:36 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
Oh. Those are links. I was wondering when the data was actually going to be
posted. When compared to the previous ones, it looks like there's only
headers
with no information.
The idea
On Thursday, January 03, 2013 19:10:59 Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/3/2013 11:36 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
Oh. Those are links. I was wondering when the data was actually going to
be
posted. When compared to the previous ones, it looks like there's only
headers with no information.
The
On 13-01-03 10:18 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/3/2013 12:27 PM, Leandro Lucarella wrote:
BTW, Changelogs looks extremely naked now, I think release notes are
really needed now. Al least for new features. Is far from ideal to make
people go through a bug report to know how they can adapt their
On Thursday, January 03, 2013 19:18:25 Walter Bright wrote:
As for what's new, the failure here is the failure to document those
changes. This is not a failure of the changelog - it's a failure of the
documentation pages. The bugzilla should have a link to the relevant
documentation.
I do
Walter Bright, el 3 de January a las 19:18 me escribiste:
On 1/3/2013 12:27 PM, Leandro Lucarella wrote:
BTW, Changelogs looks extremely naked now, I think release notes are
really needed now. Al least for new features. Is far from ideal to make
people go through a bug report to know how they
On 1/3/2013 9:54 PM, Pierre Rouleau wrote:
However, for outsiders like me, that manages development groups and is waiting
for D2 to become stable enough to start investing preliminary prototypes in D2
and developing software in house (first for tools while training new developers
with it) and
On 1/3/2013 9:54 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
I do *not* think that a changelog new feature entry takes the place of
updating the documentation, and I do not agree with writing the
documentation twice (changelog and documentation).
In general, the only new features which need to be in the
On 1/3/2013 9:20 PM, Leandro Lucarella wrote:
Examples:
http://python.org/download/releases/3.3.0/
I see a list, one line per, with a clickable link. The only real difference is
that there's one extra click to get that list in the D changelog, but then it's
a list, one line per, with a
On 1/3/2013 8:51 PM, Leandro Lucarella wrote:
Please, please, consider adding release notes, at least for new features is not
good enough to just use bugzilla links, you need a clear, succinct explanation
of the feature. Where would you put it? In the bug report itself? Most of the
time is not
On Thursday, January 03, 2013 22:24:34 Walter Bright wrote:
Please note that the documentation that was there before in the changelog,
but with no corresponding bugzilla entry, has been cut pasted into the
enhancement request bugzilla entry that I created for it.
Nothing has been lost or
On 1/3/2013 9:49 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
but other lines like
$(LI std.string: $(RED The implementations of std.string.format and
string.sformat have been replaced with improved implementations which conform
to writef. In some, rare cases, this will break code. Please see the
documentation
On 1/3/2013 8:25 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Andrei I know better than run my own SMTP/IMAP servers Alexandrescu
All we need now is a Penny.
On 1/3/2013 7:44 PM, Bernard Helyer wrote:
* I'm still going to complain. :P
My dad always told me that the time to worry is when there's no grumbling :-)
On Thursday, January 03, 2013 23:03:23 Walter Bright wrote:
This is 3 separate enhancements, each of which should be its own issue, and
will certainly fit as the issue title.
If you think that these work as titles in bugzilla issues, you're missing the
point. They're notes that need to be
On 1/3/2013 10:42 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
Nobody has put forth that effort in the
past, resulting in the changelog being pretty crummy and woefully incomplete.
I apologize to Jonathan for that remark, because Jonathan has been putting out
an effort on this.
On 1/3/2013 11:15 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Thursday, January 03, 2013 23:03:23 Walter Bright wrote:
This is 3 separate enhancements, each of which should be its own issue, and
will certainly fit as the issue title.
If you think that these work as titles in bugzilla issues, you're
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