Al 03/01/13 09:26, En/na Russel Winder ha escrit:
On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 20:31 +0100, Jordi Sayol wrote:
[…]
Walter, to avoid this problem you can install a rolling release like Linux
Mint Debian Edition, based on Debian testing.
You just need to keep it upgraded with mintUpdate manager
On 3 January 2013 09:29, Russel Winder rus...@winder.org.uk wrote:
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 00:34 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/3/2013 12:25 AM, Dmitry Olshansky wrote:
1/3/2013 12:22 PM, Russel Winder пишет:
I threw in the towel on Ubuntu when Unity came out as the default UI.
On 1/3/13 3:32 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/2/2013 11:53 PM, Russel Winder wrote:
On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 13:18 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
[…]
I don't store email on the server, I store it locally.
I think that this is at the heart of your mail problems. It means you
rely on one and only one
deadalnix:
I still have code broken all over the place.
D2 is getting its corner case problems sorted out and fixed, but
this still causes some breakage in user code. As more people use
D2, issues are found, discussed and fixed, the breakages will get
more and more uncommon.
Bye,
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 16:43:06 UTC, bearophile wrote:
deadalnix:
I still have code broken all over the place.
D2 is getting its corner case problems sorted out and fixed,
but this still causes some breakage in user code. As more
people use D2, issues are found, discussed and
On 01/01/2013 03:46 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
1. the dlang.org isn't updated yet.
Is the change log available somewhere else? I want to spread the news
but it is not very interesting without knowing what has changed. :)
Ali
On 1/3/2013 1:22 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
I don't see that local or server-based storage makes any difference to
the ability to manage email. But maybe I am missing something about your
particular workflow.
1. I control the backups
2. Third parties don't have access to my email history. I
On 1/3/2013 8:28 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 1/3/13 3:32 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
I know. On the other hand, you have control over your email data.
FWIW it's all an illusion. Mail is sent unsecured so securing the mail sent and
received is futile.
I know it doesn't guarantee that there
On 1/3/2013 5:20 AM, Matthew Caron wrote:
On 01/02/2013 04:18 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
Why would you need to? If your mail store is IMAP, just let it rebuild.
I don't store email on the server, I store it locally.
I gave that up years ago when I ended up with more than one device. Too much
On Thursday, January 03, 2013 17:59:22 deadalnix wrote:
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 16:43:06 UTC, bearophile wrote:
deadalnix:
I still have code broken all over the place.
D2 is getting its corner case problems sorted out and fixed,
but this still causes some breakage in user code.
On 1/3/2013 2:17 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
The very existence of TRIM indicates a systemic
problem.
I think you misunderstand what TRIM is. Nobody anticipated a need for TRIM
before SSDs, so no operating system issued TRIM commands.
It's like saying C has a systemic problem because it
Am Thu, 03 Jan 2013 17:43:03 +0100
schrieb bearophile bearophileh...@lycos.com:
deadalnix:
I still have code broken all over the place.
D2 is getting its corner case problems sorted out and fixed, but
this still causes some breakage in user code. As more people use
D2, issues are
On 1/3/2013 3:27 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
I can also add that the latest upgrades I have performed I cloned the hard drive
containing the OS. Then I perform the upgrade on the clone, if everything works
ok I either run the clone instead or does the same on the original disk.
That's probably
On Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:26:51 Walter Bright wrote:
2. Third parties don't have access to my email history. I don't care what
their privacy policy says - if they have it, they will use it as they
please. You have no way to even discover what they do with it
Unless you're managing your
On 1/3/2013 2:40 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 01:26 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
[…]
Windows 7 has TRIM support, Windows XP does not. I have an SSD drive in an XP
machine, it runs as slow as a spinning disk. An SSD in Win7, with TRIM, runs
like lightning.
Linux had TRIM
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 10:26 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
[…]
1. I control the backups
I run my own SMTP and IMAP server, including it's backing up. I like
control!
2. Third parties don't have access to my email history. I don't care what
their
privacy policy says - if they have it, they
On 01/03/2013 01:26 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/3/2013 1:22 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
I don't see that local or server-based storage makes any difference to
the ability to manage email. But maybe I am missing something about your
particular workflow.
1. I control the backups
The hosting
On 01/03/2013 01:36 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/3/2013 3:27 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
I can also add that the latest upgrades I have performed I cloned the
hard drive
containing the OS. Then I perform the upgrade on the clone, if
everything works
ok I either run the clone instead or does the
On 1/3/2013 10:53 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 10:26 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
[…]
1. I control the backups
I run my own SMTP and IMAP server, including it's backing up. I like
control!
I agree that is the best solution.
On 1/3/2013 10:41 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
Unless you're managing your own e-mail server (which you may be doing - I have
no idea), then even if you store your e-mail locally and delete it from the
server, you're still not saved from this.
I know - but it's less likely, and most ISPs delete
On 1/3/13 1:53 PM, Russel Winder wrote:
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 10:26 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
[…]
1. I control the backups
I run my own SMTP and IMAP server, including it's backing up. I like
control!
2. Third parties don't have access to my email history. I don't care what their
privacy
On Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:49:08 Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/3/2013 10:11 AM, Ali Çehreli wrote:
On 01/01/2013 03:46 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
1. the dlang.org isn't updated yet.
Is the change log available somewhere else? I want to spread the news but
it is not very interesting
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 19:36:31 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
In fact, I think that _every_ item in Phobos' changelog.d was
lost. That information needs to be presented to users.
Agreed – while it is great to finally see the manually maintained
list of fixed bugs being replaced with a
Johannes Pfau, el 3 de January a las 19:37 me escribiste:
Am Thu, 03 Jan 2013 17:43:03 +0100
schrieb bearophile bearophileh...@lycos.com:
deadalnix:
I still have code broken all over the place.
D2 is getting its corner case problems sorted out and fixed, but
this still causes
On 2013-01-03 19:53, Russel Winder wrote:
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 10:26 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
[…]
1. I control the backups
I run my own SMTP and IMAP server, including it's backing up. I like
control!
Next step: becoming your own ISP ?
--
/Jacob Carlborg
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 14:17 -0500, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
[…]
Whoa. Four instances I run my own SMTP and IMAP server in about as
many paragraphs. You must feel quite strongly about that...
:-)
Originally I was doing it to make sure I could sys admin
Apache/Postfix/Dovecot (previously
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:00 PM, David Nadlinger s...@klickverbot.at wrote:
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 19:36:31 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
In fact, I think that _every_ item in Phobos' changelog.d was lost. That
information needs to be presented to users.
Agreed – while it is great to
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 21:08 +0100, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
[…]
Next step: becoming your own ISP ?
Define ISP ;-)
--
Russel.
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Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: sip:russel.win...@ekiga.net
41 Buckmaster
04-Jan-2013 00:12, Russel Winder пишет:
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 21:08 +0100, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
[…]
Next step: becoming your own ISP ?
Define ISP ;-)
Then go for autonomous system aka AS g
--
Dmitry Olshansky
Walter Bright, el 1 de January a las 15:46 me escribiste:
The big news is Win64 is now supported (in alpha).
http://www.digitalmars.com/d/download.html
D 1.076 changelog: http://www.digitalmars.com/d/1.0/changelog.html
BTW, Changelogs looks extremely naked now, I think release notes are
On 13-01-03 3:11 PM, Philippe Sigaud wrote:
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:00 PM, David Nadlinger s...@klickverbot.at
mailto:s...@klickverbot.at wrote:
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 19:36:31 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
In fact, I think that _every_ item in Phobos' changelog.d was
On 3 January 2013 20:27, Leandro Lucarella l...@llucax.com.ar wrote:
Walter Bright, el 1 de January a las 15:46 me escribiste:
The big news is Win64 is now supported (in alpha).
http://www.digitalmars.com/d/download.html
D 1.076 changelog:
On 01/03/2013 10:49 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/3/2013 10:11 AM, Ali Çehreli wrote:
On 01/01/2013 03:46 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
1. the dlang.org isn't updated yet.
Is the change log available somewhere else? I want to spread the news
but it is
not very interesting without knowing what
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 18:36:32 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
On Thursday, January 03, 2013 17:59:22 deadalnix wrote:
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 16:43:06 UTC, bearophile wrote:
deadalnix:
I still have code broken all over the place.
D2 is getting its corner case problems sorted
Iain Buclaw, el 3 de January a las 21:48 me escribiste:
On 3 January 2013 20:27, Leandro Lucarella l...@llucax.com.ar wrote:
Walter Bright, el 1 de January a las 15:46 me escribiste:
The big news is Win64 is now supported (in alpha).
http://www.digitalmars.com/d/download.html
On Tuesday, 1 January 2013 at 23:46:32 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
The big news is Win64 is now supported (in alpha).
http://www.digitalmars.com/d/download.html
D 1.076 changelog:
http://www.digitalmars.com/d/1.0/changelog.html
A couple issues:
1. the dlang.org isn't updated yet.
2. the OS X
On 1/3/2013 11:17 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Andrei I don't yet run my own SMTP and IMAP server Alexandrescu
Sheesh. How can you ever hold your head up again after that admission?
On 1/3/2013 11:36 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
Oh. Those are links. I was wondering when the data was actually going to be
posted. When compared to the previous ones, it looks like there's only headers
with no information.
The idea is to add explanatory information to the bugzilla issue being
On 1/3/2013 12:27 PM, Leandro Lucarella wrote:
BTW, Changelogs looks extremely naked now, I think release notes are
really needed now. Al least for new features. Is far from ideal to make
people go through a bug report to know how they can adapt their code to
new features.
On the other hand,
On 1/3/2013 3:38 AM, deadalnix wrote:
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 01:06:46 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Please post example to bugzilla.
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=9263
Thank you. (And whaddya know, Kenji just fixed it!)
On 1/3/2013 4:22 PM, deadalnix wrote:
Ran into some trouble to make it work, but awesome news : the GC collecting live
stuff problem is gone (most likely a closure bug rather than a GC bug).
There are still a couple of memory-corrupting closure bugs left. Turns out they
are rather hard to
On Friday, 4 January 2013 at 03:21:46 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/3/2013 3:38 AM, deadalnix wrote:
On Thursday, 3 January 2013 at 01:06:46 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
Please post example to bugzilla.
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=9263
Thank you. (And whaddya know, Kenji
On 1/3/13 10:07 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/3/2013 11:17 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Andrei I don't yet run my own SMTP and IMAP server Alexandrescu
Sheesh. How can you ever hold your head up again after that admission?
I actually used to, heh. Communigate Pro they called it, beautiful
Walter Bright, el 3 de January a las 19:10 me escribiste:
On 1/3/2013 11:36 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
Oh. Those are links. I was wondering when the data was actually going to be
posted. When compared to the previous ones, it looks like there's only
headers
with no information.
The idea
On Thursday, January 03, 2013 19:10:59 Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/3/2013 11:36 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
Oh. Those are links. I was wondering when the data was actually going to
be
posted. When compared to the previous ones, it looks like there's only
headers with no information.
The
On 13-01-03 10:18 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/3/2013 12:27 PM, Leandro Lucarella wrote:
BTW, Changelogs looks extremely naked now, I think release notes are
really needed now. Al least for new features. Is far from ideal to make
people go through a bug report to know how they can adapt their
On Thursday, January 03, 2013 19:18:25 Walter Bright wrote:
As for what's new, the failure here is the failure to document those
changes. This is not a failure of the changelog - it's a failure of the
documentation pages. The bugzilla should have a link to the relevant
documentation.
I do
Walter Bright, el 3 de January a las 19:18 me escribiste:
On 1/3/2013 12:27 PM, Leandro Lucarella wrote:
BTW, Changelogs looks extremely naked now, I think release notes are
really needed now. Al least for new features. Is far from ideal to make
people go through a bug report to know how they
On 1/3/2013 9:54 PM, Pierre Rouleau wrote:
However, for outsiders like me, that manages development groups and is waiting
for D2 to become stable enough to start investing preliminary prototypes in D2
and developing software in house (first for tools while training new developers
with it) and
On 1/3/2013 9:54 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
I do *not* think that a changelog new feature entry takes the place of
updating the documentation, and I do not agree with writing the
documentation twice (changelog and documentation).
In general, the only new features which need to be in the
On 1/3/2013 9:20 PM, Leandro Lucarella wrote:
Examples:
http://python.org/download/releases/3.3.0/
I see a list, one line per, with a clickable link. The only real difference is
that there's one extra click to get that list in the D changelog, but then it's
a list, one line per, with a
On 1/3/2013 8:51 PM, Leandro Lucarella wrote:
Please, please, consider adding release notes, at least for new features is not
good enough to just use bugzilla links, you need a clear, succinct explanation
of the feature. Where would you put it? In the bug report itself? Most of the
time is not
On Thursday, January 03, 2013 22:24:34 Walter Bright wrote:
Please note that the documentation that was there before in the changelog,
but with no corresponding bugzilla entry, has been cut pasted into the
enhancement request bugzilla entry that I created for it.
Nothing has been lost or
On 1/3/2013 9:49 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
but other lines like
$(LI std.string: $(RED The implementations of std.string.format and
string.sformat have been replaced with improved implementations which conform
to writef. In some, rare cases, this will break code. Please see the
documentation
On 1/3/2013 8:25 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Andrei I know better than run my own SMTP/IMAP servers Alexandrescu
All we need now is a Penny.
On 1/3/2013 7:44 PM, Bernard Helyer wrote:
* I'm still going to complain. :P
My dad always told me that the time to worry is when there's no grumbling :-)
On Thursday, January 03, 2013 23:03:23 Walter Bright wrote:
This is 3 separate enhancements, each of which should be its own issue, and
will certainly fit as the issue title.
If you think that these work as titles in bugzilla issues, you're missing the
point. They're notes that need to be
On 1/3/2013 10:42 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
Nobody has put forth that effort in the
past, resulting in the changelog being pretty crummy and woefully incomplete.
I apologize to Jonathan for that remark, because Jonathan has been putting out
an effort on this.
On 1/3/2013 11:15 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Thursday, January 03, 2013 23:03:23 Walter Bright wrote:
This is 3 separate enhancements, each of which should be its own issue, and
will certainly fit as the issue title.
If you think that these work as titles in bugzilla issues, you're
Are you going to remove the D1 compiler parts of code in the D2
compiler source code? A leaner source base will help.
Also this transitional moment seems a good moment to rename the
.c suffix of the frontend+backend C++ files to .cpp or
something like that.
I have to warn people that if they
On Wednesday, January 02, 2013 09:12:49 bearophile wrote:
I have to warn people that if they want to suddenly switch from
2.060 to 2.061 with no intermediate steps, probably some of their
code will break, and they will have to work to fix it.
Why?
- Jonathan M davis
Jonathan M Davis:
Why?
Because the two numbers 2.060 and 2.061 look very very
similar, so people that see them risk thinking they are just two
nearly identical releases of the same compiler. But many months
have passed between those two versions, many bugs have being
removed, several
On Wednesday, January 02, 2013 10:19:54 bearophile wrote:
Jonathan M Davis:
Why?
Because the two numbers 2.060 and 2.061 look very very
similar, so people that see them risk thinking they are just two
nearly identical releases of the same compiler. But many months
have passed between
Jonathan M Davis:
And how is that any different from any other release?
How much time used to pass between two adjacent releases, in past?
Bye,
bearophile
On 2013-01-02 00:46, Walter Bright wrote:
2. the OS X package hasn't been built yet (problems with the package
script).
What isn't working? Is there something I can do to help?
--
/Jacob Carlborg
On 2013-01-02 12:55, bearophile wrote:
Jonathan M Davis:
And how is that any different from any other release?
How much time used to pass between two adjacent releases, in past?
Bye,
bearophile
Around a month, perhaps.
--
/Jacob Carlborg
On 2013-01-02 00:46, Walter Bright wrote:
2. the OS X package hasn't been built yet (problems with the package
script).
I think this will fix the problem:
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/installer/pull/9
I don't know if this is the problem you encountered but:
PackageMaker is
On Wednesday, 2 January 2013 at 08:20:41 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
On Wednesday, January 02, 2013 09:12:49 bearophile wrote:
I have to warn people that if they want to suddenly switch from
2.060 to 2.061 with no intermediate steps, probably some of
their
code will break, and they will have
Am Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:14:53 +0100
schrieb David Eagen davidea...@mailinator.com:
On Wednesday, 2 January 2013 at 08:20:41 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
On Wednesday, January 02, 2013 09:12:49 bearophile wrote:
I have to warn people that if they want to suddenly switch from
2.060 to 2.061
On 1/2/2013 4:12 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2013-01-02 00:46, Walter Bright wrote:
2. the OS X package hasn't been built yet (problems with the package
script).
What isn't working? Is there something I can do to help?
The various packages are all built on Ubuntu. The OS X one failed
On Wednesday, 2 January 2013 at 17:53:58 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/2/2013 4:12 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2013-01-02 00:46, Walter Bright wrote:
2. the OS X package hasn't been built yet (problems with the
package
script).
What isn't working? Is there something I can do to help?
On 1/2/2013 7:27 AM, Johannes Pfau wrote:
That's unfortunately normal for every dmd release. We try to stay API
compatible, but ABI usually breaks with every compiler/druntime/phobos
update. This means you can't mix object/library files compiled with
different compiler versions.
I go to some
On 1/2/2013 9:59 AM, Iain Buclaw wrote:
On Wednesday, 2 January 2013 at 17:53:58 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/2/2013 4:12 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2013-01-02 00:46, Walter Bright wrote:
2. the OS X package hasn't been built yet (problems with the package
script).
What isn't working?
On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 09:53 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
[…]
The various packages are all built on Ubuntu. The OS X one failed because it
couldn't find ruby, and ruby does not work on Ubuntu (at least my version of
Ubuntu - there is no ruby package for it).
There has been a Ruby package on
On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 10:07 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
[…]
Yeah, really. sudo apt-get ruby fails on Ubuntu 10.10.
Any and all apt-related commands are likely to fail for that version of
Ubuntu, it is no longer supported. Definitely need to stick with LTS
version of Ubuntu or keep up to date,
Al 02/01/13 19:07, En/na Walter Bright ha escrit:
Really? http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/ruby
Yeah, really. sudo apt-get ruby fails on Ubuntu 10.10.
$ sudo apt-get install ruby
--
Jordi Sayol
On 1/2/2013 10:37 AM, Jordi Sayol wrote:
Al 02/01/13 19:07, En/na Walter Bright ha escrit:
Really? http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/ruby
Yeah, really. sudo apt-get ruby fails on Ubuntu 10.10.
$ sudo apt-get install ruby
That's what I did try, and yes, it fails too.
On 1/2/2013 10:17 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 10:07 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
[…]
Yeah, really. sudo apt-get ruby fails on Ubuntu 10.10.
Any and all apt-related commands are likely to fail for that version of
Ubuntu, it is no longer supported. Definitely need to stick
On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 10:47 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/2/2013 10:37 AM, Jordi Sayol wrote:
Al 02/01/13 19:07, En/na Walter Bright ha escrit:
Really? http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/ruby
Yeah, really. sudo apt-get ruby fails on Ubuntu 10.10.
$ sudo apt-get install ruby
On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 10:51 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
[…]
I've been avoiding upgrading Ubuntu, because the last time I did that the
installer trashed everything. Lost a day on that one.
Just because it happened once doesn't mean it will always happen.
Until I abandoned all use of Ubuntu, I
Al 02/01/13 19:47, En/na Walter Bright ha escrit:
On 1/2/2013 10:37 AM, Jordi Sayol wrote:
Al 02/01/13 19:07, En/na Walter Bright ha escrit:
Really? http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/ruby
Yeah, really. sudo apt-get ruby fails on Ubuntu 10.10.
$ sudo apt-get install ruby
That's what I
On 1/2/2013 11:09 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 10:51 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
[…]
I've been avoiding upgrading Ubuntu, because the last time I did that the
installer trashed everything. Lost a day on that one.
Just because it happened once doesn't mean it will always
On 1/2/2013 11:09 AM, Jordi Sayol wrote:
I don't know why.
mercury ~ sudo apt-get install ruby
[sudo] password for walter:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
On 1/2/2013 11:05 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
To be expected in the circumstances since 10.10 is no longer supported.
Looks like I'll have to hold my nose and push the upgrade button, but after this
release is settled down.
Does the latest Ubuntu work properly with SSD drives? I know 10.10
On Wednesday, January 02, 2013 03:20:27 Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Wednesday, January 02, 2013 10:19:54 bearophile wrote:
Jonathan M Davis:
Why?
Because the two numbers 2.060 and 2.061 look very very
similar, so people that see them risk thinking they are just two
nearly identical
Al 02/01/13 20:28, En/na Walter Bright ha escrit:
On 1/2/2013 11:09 AM, Jordi Sayol wrote:
I don't know why.
mercury ~ sudo apt-get install ruby
[sudo] password for walter:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages
Al 02/01/13 19:51, En/na Walter Bright ha escrit:
On 1/2/2013 10:17 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 10:07 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
[…]
Yeah, really. sudo apt-get ruby fails on Ubuntu 10.10.
Any and all apt-related commands are likely to fail for that version of
Ubuntu, it
1/2/2013 11:24 PM, Walter Bright пишет:
On 1/2/2013 11:09 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 10:51 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
[…]
I've been avoiding upgrading Ubuntu, because the last time I did that
the
installer trashed everything. Lost a day on that one.
Just because it
On 2013-01-02 20:09, Russel Winder wrote:
I have the opposite experience, Apple hardware seems incapable of
upgrading operating systems. Their policy seems to be you want a new
operating system, then buy a new piece of hardware from the store.
I've been updating a couple of Macs from 10.6
On 2013-01-02 19:51, Walter Bright wrote:
I've been avoiding upgrading Ubuntu, because the last time I did that
the installer trashed everything. Lost a day on that one.
That's what backups are for :)
--
/Jacob Carlborg
On 1/2/2013 12:01 PM, Dmitry Olshansky wrote:
P.S. I like calendar programs, but on Windows and Ubuntu, upgrading the
OS inevitably deletes the calendar database. None of those frackin'
calendar programs ever deign to tell me where they store their frackin'
database, so I can back it up. I
On 2013-01-02 18:53, Walter Bright wrote:
The various packages are all built on Ubuntu. The OS X one failed
because it couldn't find ruby, and ruby does not work on Ubuntu (at
least my version of Ubuntu - there is no ruby package for it).
Looks like my mistake is I should have run it on OS X.
On 2013-01-02 21:37, Walter Bright wrote:
Windows has gotten better in this regard, that is true.
But it's still bizarre that, with Thunderbird, you can export/import the
address book, but not the mail database.
A welcome improvement would be to have a button to export/import the
whole
On 01/02/2013 03:37 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
But it's still bizarre that, with Thunderbird, you can export/import the
address book, but not the mail database.
Why would you need to? If your mail store is IMAP, just let it rebuild.
A welcome improvement would be to have a button to
On 1/2/2013 12:47 PM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2013-01-02 21:37, Walter Bright wrote:
Windows has gotten better in this regard, that is true.
But it's still bizarre that, with Thunderbird, you can export/import the
address book, but not the mail database.
A welcome improvement would be to
On 1/2/2013 12:56 PM, Matthew Caron wrote:
On 01/02/2013 03:37 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
But it's still bizarre that, with Thunderbird, you can export/import the
address book, but not the mail database.
Why would you need to? If your mail store is IMAP, just let it rebuild.
I don't store
On 1/2/2013 12:36 PM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2013-01-02 19:51, Walter Bright wrote:
I've been avoiding upgrading Ubuntu, because the last time I did that
the installer trashed everything. Lost a day on that one.
That's what backups are for :)
Having backups doesn't work so good when the
On Wednesday, January 02, 2013 13:18:02 Walter Bright wrote:
What is the rationale behind import/export of address books, and not doing
that for anything else?
I don't know. kmail has basically the same problem. It drives me nuts that you
can't export accounts. It makes setting up a new
On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 11:24 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
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It does when you don't remember what goes in the host file, what you had
installed, redoing all the ssh keys, etc. It also deleted all my virtual
boxes,
I never did figure out how to get them working again. I simply gave up on
On 1/2/2013 1:29 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Wednesday, January 02, 2013 13:18:02 Walter Bright wrote:
What is the rationale behind import/export of address books, and not doing
that for anything else?
I don't know. kmail has basically the same problem. It drives me nuts that you
can't
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