Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-29 Thread Alexander Pánek
Nick Sabalausky wrote: Alexander P�nek alexander.pa...@brainsware.org wrote in message news:gvlrua$16p...@digitalmars.com... grauzone wrote: browsers. What's the big deal everyone have with Javascript? Look mah, JS and Flash combined in shiny modal windows:

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-29 Thread Alexander Pánek
Nick Sabalausky wrote: Alexander P�nek alexander.pa...@brainsware.org wrote in message news:gvm3qh$1ld...@digitalmars.com... grauzone wrote: Alexander P�nek wrote: grauzone wrote: Alexander P�nek wrote: Look mah, JS and Flash combined in shiny modal windows:

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-29 Thread BCS
Reply to Nick, [sniped rant about why the web sucks] I'll grant you most of that and I don't care about the rest. It's ironic that this should come up in the D community because it sounds a lot like C++ template are to the web like D template are to what the web should be. That is; the Web

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-29 Thread Nick Sabalausky
BCS a...@pathlink.com wrote in message news:78ccfa2d417fc8cbae8318d2e...@news.digitalmars.com... Reply to Nick, [sniped rant about why the web sucks] I'll grant you most of that and I don't care about the rest. Cool and Fair enough ;) It's ironic that this should come up in the D

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-28 Thread grauzone
Alexander Pánek wrote: grauzone wrote: browsers. What's the big deal everyone have with Javascript? It's unnecessary, annoying, slower, and adds security holes. When using Firefox, I usually use NoScript to block all scripts by default. Sometimes, some minor things don't work, and I have to

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-28 Thread grauzone
Alexander Pánek wrote: grauzone wrote: Alexander Pánek wrote: grauzone wrote: browsers. What's the big deal everyone have with Javascript? It's unnecessary, annoying, slower, and adds security holes. When using Firefox, I usually use NoScript to block all scripts by default. Sometimes,

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-25 Thread BCS
Hello Nick, I wish you were a higher-up at Epic ;) They seem to have pretty much the opposite attitude, and I get so worked-up every time I see a quote from CliffyB or any of the others... I'm sorry to disappoint, but gaming is the only case where building to the latest hardware has any

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread grauzone
browsers. What's the big deal everyone have with Javascript? It's unnecessary, annoying, slower, and adds security holes. When using Firefox, I usually use NoScript to block all scripts by default. Sometimes, some minor things don't work, and I have to enable JS. Now it's really rare to see

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread BCS
Hello Nick, Yes, yes, yes. This. All of it. [...] Anything that can be used for good can be used for ill. Yes, lots of sites out there are junk, but that would be true no matter what tools were available. The (long term) solution isn't to reject the tools but to figure out how to make

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Nick Sabalausky
grauzone n...@example.net wrote in message news:gvc6r3$2dm...@digitalmars.com... Nick Sabalausky wrote: Nick Sabalausky a...@a.a wrote in message news:gvc4kc$29b...@digitalmars.com... And, (and here's the real clincher), since I obviously can't enforce proper design on the web, the one

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Saaa
I'm starting to get the impression that you just have a _really slow Javascript interpreter_ in your browser. I have no idea what you're talking about with text input lag. I have never experienced that. And the Tango API opens in about 2 seconds with JS enabled for me. What browser are you

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Nick Sabalausky
Saaa em...@needmail.com wrote in message news:gvcac0$2k6...@digitalmars.com... The tango website is the slowest website I know, so I think it is an exceptionally bad example for showing js being slow as I know a lot of websites which use loads more of web 2.o stuff and show up in less than a

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Saaa
Nick Sabalausky a...@a.a wrote in message news:gvcb23$2lg...@digitalmars.com... Saaa em...@needmail.com wrote in message news:gvcac0$2k6...@digitalmars.com... The tango website is the slowest website I know, so I think it is an exceptionally bad example for showing js being slow as I know

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Nick Sabalausky
Jarrett Billingsley jarrett.billings...@gmail.com wrote in message news:mailman.165.1243195228.13405.digitalmars-d-annou...@puremagic.com... I'm starting to get the impression that you just have a _really slow Javascript interpreter_ in your browser. I have no idea what you're talking about

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Nick Sabalausky
Saaa em...@needmail.com wrote in message news:gvcb0n$2l9...@digitalmars.com... And then there's FlashBlock, which I *would* absolutely love...except it *only* works with JS enabled!!! ^$^%^^!!! And frankly, I just don't have the time to dig into FF extension-writing and do things the way I

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread grauzone
Adblock is essential. Most ads have gotten so completely out-of-hand, I seriously wouldn't even be using the web anymore if it weren't for Adblock. Definitely. It's also useful for blocking other obnoxious stuff like emoticons or avatars in those phpBB forums. IIRC, I think NoScript does let

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread grauzone
What browser are you *using*? Firefox. But I often use Konqueror for serious work (!= entertainment, wasting time). With Konqueror, some sites become dead slow with Java Script enabled. Oh, and although Konqueror is a very nice browser, scripting often causes malfunctions. That all just

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Jarrett Billingsley
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Nick Sabalausky a...@a.a wrote: Jarrett Billingsley jarrett.billings...@gmail.com wrote in message news:mailman.165.1243195228.13405.digitalmars-d-annou...@puremagic.com... I'm starting to get the impression that you just have a _really slow Javascript

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread grauzone
to get a new machine? They're like $12 now. Where can I buy 12$ computers?

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Saaa
And then there's FlashBlock, which I *would* absolutely love...except it *only* works with JS enabled!!! ^$^%^^!!! And frankly, I just don't have the time to dig into FF extension-writing and do things the way I really want them. Just use noscript for blocking flash I don't like the way

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Saaa
My only concern with NoScript is, enabling a site reloads all tabs containing a script from that site. Oh, and by default, it shows some sort of GUI animation when loading a site with blocked scripts. But you can disable it. As you can disable the reloading ;)

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Jarrett Billingsley
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 5:12 PM, grauzone n...@example.net wrote: to get a new machine?  They're like $12 now. Where can I buy 12$ computers? lern2hyperbole.

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Saaa
Some sort of multi-core 64-bit? I don't care if that's all that the stores are currently trying to sell, lol

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread grauzone
Saaa wrote: My only concern with NoScript is, enabling a site reloads all tabs containing a script from that site. Oh, and by default, it shows some sort of GUI animation when loading a site with blocked scripts. But you can disable it. As you can disable the reloading ;) Thanks. And going

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread grauzone
Jarrett Billingsley wrote: On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 5:12 PM, grauzone n...@example.net wrote: to get a new machine? They're like $12 now. Where can I buy 12$ computers? lern2hyperbole. Needing brand new PC hardware for using heavy websites is not really an exaggeration, though. As soon

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Robert Clipsham
grauzone wrote: Needing brand new PC hardware for using heavy websites is not really an exaggeration, though. As soon as you have several instances of that website loaded (in different browser windows, tabs, etc.), things are _definitely_ starting to get no fun, even with an overclocked, 64

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Nick Sabalausky
Jarrett Billingsley jarrett.billings...@gmail.com wrote in message news:mailman.166.1243199156.13405.digitalmars-d-annou...@puremagic.com... On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Nick Sabalausky a...@a.a wrote: I use Firefox too. My computer isn't even a fire-breathing monster by today's

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Nick Sabalausky
Saaa em...@needmail.com wrote in message news:gvcdpg$2q8...@digitalmars.com... Some sort of multi-core 64-bit? I don't care if that's all that the stores are currently trying to sell, lol Just trying to anticipate that argument. It's amazing how many times I've seen people try to argue that

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread BCS
Hello Nick, Just trying to anticipate that argument. It's amazing how many times I've seen people try to argue that something isn't worth developing for just because the stores don't sell them. What matters is what is people are *using*, not what the stores are selling. Should they stop

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Nick Sabalausky
Ary Borenszweig a...@esperanto.org.ar wrote in message news:gvcehp$2rd...@digitalmars.com... grauzone escribió: browsers. What's the big deal everyone have with Javascript? It's unnecessary, annoying, slower, and adds security holes. Anything which connects to the internet poses a security

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Nick Sabalausky
BCS n...@anon.com wrote in message news:a6268ff64568cbaad2fa3b9...@news.digitalmars.com... Hello Nick, Just trying to anticipate that argument. It's amazing how many times I've seen people try to argue that something isn't worth developing for just because the stores don't sell them. What

OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-23 Thread Ary Borenszweig
BCS escribió: Hello Nick, what they can do is additionally provide a non-youtube/flash version. Which should be really [censored] easy since they had to have already had one in order to upload it to craptube in the first place. If they can, yes, but they might not have access to general file

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-23 Thread Charles Hixson
Ary Borenszweig wrote: BCS escribió: Hello Nick, what they can do is additionally provide a non-youtube/flash version. Which should be really [censored] easy since they had to have already had one in order to upload it to craptube in the first place. If they can, yes, but they might not