Re: [OT Security PSA] Shellshock: Update your bash, now!
On Thursday, 2 October 2014 at 12:44:08 UTC, eles wrote: I doubt. At least, not easily. However, installing LMDE should be a one-time process (it's a rolling distribution). Do rolling distributions guarantee to not overwrite fstab? How mint package update differs from a rolling distro package update?
Re: [OT Security PSA] Shellshock: Update your bash, now!
On Friday, 3 October 2014 at 07:16:14 UTC, Kagamin wrote: On Thursday, 2 October 2014 at 12:44:08 UTC, eles wrote: I doubt. At least, not easily. However, installing LMDE should be a one-time process (it's a rolling distribution). Do rolling distributions guarantee to not overwrite fstab? How mint package update differs from a rolling distro package update? Arch Linux warns you about the conflict and installs the new files as e.g. /etc/fstab.pacnew. David
Re: [OT Security PSA] Shellshock: Update your bash, now!
On Friday, 3 October 2014 at 07:16:14 UTC, Kagamin wrote: On Thursday, 2 October 2014 at 12:44:08 UTC, eles wrote: I doubt. At least, not easily. However, installing LMDE should be a one-time process (it's a rolling distribution). Do rolling distributions guarantee to not overwrite fstab? How mint package update differs from a rolling distro package update? Debian and Debian-based asks you to confirm file overwrite (usually, the diff is displayed too).
Re: [OT Security PSA] Shellshock: Update your bash, now!
On Friday, 3 October 2014 at 11:31:07 UTC, eles wrote: On Friday, 3 October 2014 at 07:16:14 UTC, Kagamin wrote: On Thursday, 2 October 2014 at 12:44:08 UTC, eles wrote: I doubt. At least, not easily. However, installing LMDE should be a one-time process (it's a rolling distribution). Do rolling distributions guarantee to not overwrite fstab? How mint package update differs from a rolling distro package update? Mint is release-based. All packages are updated in a large group that is called a release, unlike rolling distributions, where packages are updated package-by-package, sometimes even on daily basis. The former attempt stability (because all packages are tested together, along with their interactions), while the latter attempt cutting-edge software (you update software as it gets produced). No matter the distribution, security packages usually comes in in rolling-manner (because very important). Unlike other release-style distribution, Mint simply does not support hot-upgrades, they recommend full reinstall (back-up your files, clean harddisk, install, restore files). Anyway, the fact that they do not support it does not mean is not possible. It's just that they disclaim responsibility and they do not want to invest support into that. So, it is possible, but you must be a bit of geek. And you cannot request their official helps/guides for that. Think of it as undocumented feature from their POV. I recently upgraded a mint install by changing any and all references to repositories to the corresponding ones for the new release and then running apt-get dist-upgrade It worked, but I wouldn't recommend it. Clean reinstalls or rolling release are better approaches to the problem of updating an OS. Ubuntu, Windows and OS X have all subtlely or not-so-subtley let me down with automated upgrades at one point or another.
Re: [OT Security PSA] Shellshock: Update your bash, now!
On Friday, 3 October 2014 at 11:31:07 UTC, eles wrote: The former attempt stability (because all packages are tested together, along with their interactions), while the latter attempt cutting-edge software (you update software as it gets produced). This generally true but not entirely true. Rolling release model also implies testing of package inter-operation but any guarantees only apply to versions that match specific repository snapshot - most problems arise from trying to update some of packages but not all. At least this is the case for Arch.
Re: [OT Security PSA] Shellshock: Update your bash, now!
On 10/3/2014 3:25 AM, David Nadlinger via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: On Friday, 3 October 2014 at 07:16:14 UTC, Kagamin wrote: On Thursday, 2 October 2014 at 12:44:08 UTC, eles wrote: I doubt. At least, not easily. However, installing LMDE should be a one-time process (it's a rolling distribution). Do rolling distributions guarantee to not overwrite fstab? How mint package update differs from a rolling distro package update? Arch Linux warns you about the conflict and installs the new files as e.g. /etc/fstab.pacnew. David I've used at various points in time Debian, Ubuntu, Redhat, Centos, and amazon linux. At no point has any of them ever lost my fstab file, or any other critical file for that matter. My oldest system at this point is about 8 years old and has been ubuntu since it was born and still is. It's current and has rolled through every intervening version quite easily, which is a good thing since it's a vm off in a data center. It's not hard to maintain systems, but they do require maintenance. I wouldn't really expect to neglect a system for many years and be able to rapidly jump it all the way to current. About once a year I go on a big maintenance spree, independent of more frequent minor maintenance. My 2 cents, Brad
Re: [OT Security PSA] Shellshock: Update your bash, now!
On Friday, 3 October 2014 at 17:20:11 UTC, Brad Roberts via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: On 10/3/2014 3:25 AM, David Nadlinger via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: On Friday, 3 October 2014 at 07:16:14 UTC, Kagamin wrote: On Thursday, 2 October 2014 at 12:44:08 UTC, eles wrote: My oldest system at this point is about 8 years old and has been ubuntu since it was born and still is. It's current and has rolled through every intervening version quite easily Yes. Ubuntu was not perfectly upgrading at its beginnings, but with years that passed they became better and better at this.
