Re: Beta D 2.068.0-b1

2015-06-25 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 04:06:15 UTC, Ilya Yaroshenko wrote:

Would Summator be merged?


That sure looks useful, but I lack the time for a review and if 
it wasn't in master when we merged master into stable it won't be 
part of the release.


Re: Beta D 2.068.0-b1

2015-06-25 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Wednesday, 24 June 2015 at 23:59:43 UTC, Mike wrote:
* If you do wish to pursue it please polish it up and rebase it 
so it has a chance


Which doesn't increase our review capacity, it would make more 
sense to only spent more effort on a pull on request.


* If you see a pull request that can still make it in 2.068, 
please make a final attempt at a review/merge so it is not 
delayed for yet another release.


No, let's not play that game. Last minute additions are never a 
good idea and the next release is already coming in 2 month.
I hope that more regular releases will help people to get their 
stuff ready in time.




Book announcements! Twp-d and Developing with compile time in mind updates!

2015-06-25 Thread Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d-announce

Hey everyone!

TWP-D:

So back in February I started streaming on livecoding.tv. For 4-5 months 
I spent it writing The way to program - Let's think like a D(eveloper).
I had great turn out (especially since I started when it was in closed 
beta). Also got lots of people interested in D.
Anyway the book is focused upon teaching programming using the D 
programming language. It uses a teaching technique I refer to as 
reflective. Which is a much more effective at helping people understand 
a topic.


It has completed it's first iteration. The next iteration will add 
design patterns and much more exercises!


Oh and the book's content is free!

http://github.com/rikkimax/twp-d
http://leanpub.com/twp-d

Currently I'm streaming making a new image library for the purpose of 
going in Phobos. It's also very helpful at testing the soon to be new 
color module.


https://www.livecoding.tv/alphaglosined/

My usual stream times that I at least aim for is 12pm UTC+0 Monday and 
Tuesday each week.


CTFE:

Developing with compile time in mind has gone through its second 
iteration. It's a little light on content unfortunately. Mostly because 
DNetDev is a little bit behind schedule.


I added a tutorial at request. But that is the biggest change.
If you have already bought it, you should be able to download it + the 
code zip file. Also you should have received an email from me about it.


http://leanpub.com/ctfe


Please destroy!


Re: Beta D 2.068.0-b1

2015-06-25 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 07:48:24 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:
More importantly, will all cross-platform regressions 
introduced in the development cycle of 2.068 be fixed? :-)


Sure, we intend to fix all reported regressions.


Re: Beta D 2.068.0-b1

2015-06-25 Thread Mike via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 10:30:29 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:

On Wednesday, 24 June 2015 at 23:59:43 UTC, Mike wrote:
* If you do wish to pursue it please polish it up and rebase 
it so it has a chance


Which doesn't increase our review capacity, it would make more 
sense to only spent more effort on a pull on request.


* If you see a pull request that can still make it in 2.068, 
please make a final attempt at a review/merge so it is not 
delayed for yet another release.


No, let's not play that game. Last minute additions are never a 
good idea and the next release is already coming in 2 month.
I hope that more regular releases will help people to get their 
stuff ready in time.


Then please flag things accordingly (milestone 2.068, post-2.068)


Re: Coedit 1 - update 1

2015-06-25 Thread tired_eyes via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 04:10:15 UTC, Basile Burg wrote:

This is the first update for Coedit 1, and probably the only.


Errr... why so pessimistic?




Re: Beta D 2.068.0-b1

2015-06-25 Thread Mike via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 10:42:46 UTC, Mike wrote:

No, let's not play that game. Last minute additions are never 
a good idea and the next release is already coming in 2 month.
I hope that more regular releases will help people to get 
their stuff ready in time.


Then please flag things accordingly (milestone 2.068, 
post-2.068)


Martin, I see what you said here:
... if it wasn't in master when we merged master into stable it 
won't be part of the release.


I understand now.  Please disregard my last statement.


Re: Beta D 2.068.0-b1

2015-06-25 Thread rsw0x via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Wednesday, 24 June 2015 at 23:14:05 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:

First beta for the 2.068.0 release.

http://downloads.dlang.org/pre-releases/2.x/2.068.0/ 
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/


Also available on Travis-CI as dmd-2.068.0-b1.

A changelog containing all the upcoming changes will be 
provided within the next few days.


Please report any bugs at https://issues.dlang.org

-Martin


ughh can't believe these didn't make it in
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/phobos/pull/3225
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/phobos/pull/3259

another 6 months of being laughed at on HN and reddit for having 
unusable smartpointers.


Re: Beta D 2.068.0-b1

2015-06-25 Thread Daniel N via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 14:04:57 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer 
wrote:

On 6/25/15 6:34 AM, Martin Nowak wrote:

if it
wasn't in master when we merged master into stable it won't be 
part of

the release.




I was much hoping for:
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/3998

I even thought it would make 2.067 but... guess there's no 
exceptions to the rule.




Re: Beta D 2.068.0-b1

2015-06-25 Thread Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d-announce

On 6/25/15 6:34 AM, Martin Nowak wrote:

if it
wasn't in master when we merged master into stable it won't be part of
the release.


There is quite a raging debate currently happening with naming of lazy 
ranges that replace allocating ranges. If we blindly just accept what's 
currently in master, the debate is all for naught.


Should we wait until that is resolved, or should we simply end the 
debate and go with what happens to be in Master? Once those names are 
released, there's probably no chance to change them.


-Steve


Re: D Conf 2015: Memory Models and D (deadalnix)

2015-06-25 Thread Bill Baxter via Digitalmars-d-announce
Fyi - Someone is posting similar stuff to the G+ D community under the name
Mike Rotch.  The posts are links to serious talks about D. But that
account name lends a pretty unprofessional air to it.
--bb
On Jun 24, 2015 4:00 PM, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce 
digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com wrote:

 On 6/24/2015 3:19 PM, Laeeth Isharc wrote:

 But I posted just now a short summary/teaser based off Adam's notes and
 what I
 remember from his talk last year.


 I saw that - excellent! Thanks
 (didn't know it was you!)



Re: Beta D 2.068.0-b1

2015-06-25 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 20:38:26 UTC, rsw0x wrote:
another 6 months of being laughed at on HN and reddit for 
having unusable smartpointers.


Only 2 month until 2.069.0

It's a pity, but we can't wait for everyone to finish their open 
ended discussions or to eventually respond to pull request 
comments. Ultimately someone has to take a keyboard and write 
that goddamn code for it to be released.


Re: Beta D 2.068.0-b1

2015-06-25 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 14:04:57 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer 
wrote:
There is quite a raging debate currently happening with naming 
of lazy ranges that replace allocating ranges. If we blindly 
just accept what's currently in master, the debate is all for 
naught.


Yes, I'm aware of that, a week should be plenty of time to come 
up with a solution.


Re: Coedit 1 - update 1

2015-06-25 Thread jkpl via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 11:34:17 UTC, tired_eyes wrote:

On Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 04:10:15 UTC, Basile Burg wrote:

This is the first update for Coedit 1, and probably the only.


Errr... why so pessimistic?


It's not pessimistic, it's the opposite. This explained by the 
software versioning system: the updates for the version 1 are on 
a dedicated branch; the changes made to the master branch are 
actually for the second version hence no more updates means that 
the software is stable. It's not like semver that continues after 
1.0 to 1.1 then 1.2 and so on...


Re: Beta D 2.068.0-b1

2015-06-25 Thread extrawurst via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Thursday, 25 June 2015 at 20:38:26 UTC, rsw0x wrote:

On Wednesday, 24 June 2015 at 23:14:05 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:

First beta for the 2.068.0 release.

http://downloads.dlang.org/pre-releases/2.x/2.068.0/ 
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/


Also available on Travis-CI as dmd-2.068.0-b1.

A changelog containing all the upcoming changes will be 
provided within the next few days.


Please report any bugs at https://issues.dlang.org

-Martin


ughh can't believe these didn't make it in
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/phobos/pull/3225
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/phobos/pull/3259

another 6 months of being laughed at on HN and reddit for 
having unusable smartpointers.


yeah bothers me too -.-


Re: Beta D 2.068.0-b1

2015-06-25 Thread Meta via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Wednesday, 24 June 2015 at 23:14:05 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:

First beta for the 2.068.0 release.

http://downloads.dlang.org/pre-releases/2.x/2.068.0/ 
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/


Also available on Travis-CI as dmd-2.068.0-b1.

A changelog containing all the upcoming changes will be 
provided within the next few days.


Please report any bugs at https://issues.dlang.org

-Martin


Will https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/4728 be 
in this release? It's blocking a PR I've been waiting to submit.


Re: Beta D 2.068.0-b1

2015-06-25 Thread Mike via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Wednesday, 24 June 2015 at 23:14:05 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:

First beta for the 2.068.0 release.


Martin,  I saw your post about a potentially using Trello 
(http://forum.dlang.org/post/55586d5b.8020...@dawg.eu), and I 
added a link to it on the Wiki 
(http://wiki.dlang.org/The_D_Programming_Language) under Core 
Development.


At the moment, I don't see anything there 
(https://trello.com/dlang). Are the board public?  If you still 
plan on making use of it, then, in addition to getting the core 
team organized, I think it would be a nice place for people to 
self-serve themselves with information so they can see where 
things are, and make some reasonable predictions about what's 
coming and when.


Mike


Re: Beta D 2.068.0-b1

2015-06-25 Thread Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 25 June 2015 at 06:06, Ilya Yaroshenko via Digitalmars-d-announce
digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com wrote:
 On Wednesday, 24 June 2015 at 23:14:05 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:

 First beta for the 2.068.0 release.

 http://downloads.dlang.org/pre-releases/2.x/2.068.0/
 http://ftp.digitalmars.com/

 Also available on Travis-CI as dmd-2.068.0-b1.

 A changelog containing all the upcoming changes will be provided within
 the next few days.

 Please report any bugs at https://issues.dlang.org

 -Martin


 Hi Martin,

 Would Summator be merged?


More importantly, will all cross-platform regressions introduced in
the development cycle of 2.068 be fixed? :-)