On Tuesday, 8 February 2022 at 02:57:29 UTC, forkit wrote:
I would prefer @must_use over @mustUse, for example (althouhgh
i prefer @mustuse to both of these, since the underscore is not
really needed in this case).
my argument for the above, is:
The problem with using camelCase on
On 2/7/2022 6:21 PM, Paul Backus wrote:
On Monday, 7 February 2022 at 23:40:38 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 2/6/2022 9:05 PM, forkit wrote:
only to have the compiler complain, that its' actually @mustUse
I have to agree. All D keywords and imports and compiler-recognized attributes
are
On Tuesday, 8 February 2022 at 02:21:37 UTC, Paul Backus wrote:
I guess core.attribute.gnuAbiTag sneaked in behind your back,
huh?
Anyway, I'm happy to change it if that's your call, although it
would have been nice to have caught this before the DIP was
officially accepted.
actually, I
On Tuesday, 8 February 2022 at 01:53:17 UTC, forkit wrote:
also, the use of the word 'must' in any programming language,
needs careful consideration.
'mustuse' has the potential to invite mass 'mustuse'
demonstrations!
'nodiscard' suggests somewhat more 'autonomy', and would achieve
a
On Monday, 7 February 2022 at 23:40:38 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 2/6/2022 9:05 PM, forkit wrote:
only to have the compiler complain, that its' actually @mustUse
I have to agree. All D keywords and imports and
compiler-recognized attributes are lower case, @mustuse should
be consistent
On Tuesday, 8 February 2022 at 01:40:38 UTC, forkit wrote:
I often say to my cat 'what are you doing' .. but what i really
mean is 'don't do that'.
by avoiding negation, I'm probably just confusing my cat as to
what i really meant.
mustuse -> I must use it? Why must i use it? How must I
On Tuesday, 8 February 2022 at 01:25:52 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Sorry, all those negations made my brain explode.
P.S. English has examples of negation issues, such as:
"I could care less."
which makes no sense at all, until you realize it's just a
shortened version of "I couldn't care
On 2/6/2022 7:14 AM, Daniel N wrote:
However by choosing "use" we could avoid the entire discussion about which case
to use...
"mustuse" is much more greppable.
On 2/7/2022 5:10 PM, forkit wrote:
Suppose I don't want to 'use it'. That should be allowed, as long as I don't
discard it. With mustuse, I'm being told I can't discard it, and that i must use
it.
Sorry, all those negations made my brain explode.
P.S. English has examples of negation issues,
On Monday, 7 February 2022 at 23:38:11 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Anytime you find yourself writing not-nohow, not-noway, etc.,
it's time to redesign the state of the variables. Try to
organize logic so ! is not necessary. I mean, try to organize
logic so ! is absent.
But sometimes that
On Monday, 7 February 2022 at 23:38:11 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Andrei once asked me for scientific evidence that negations are
cognitively more difficult for human brains to understand. I
didn't have it at the time, but did eventually find it and
forwarded it to Andrei, who was satisfied
On 2/6/2022 9:05 PM, forkit wrote:
only to have the compiler complain, that its' actually @mustUse
I have to agree. All D keywords and imports and compiler-recognized attributes
are lower case, @mustuse should be consistent with that.
On 2/6/2022 7:17 AM, Paul Backus wrote:
To be honest, though, I can see where he's coming from. When writing DIP 1038, I
made a conscious effort to avoid using the term "non-`@nodiscard`", due to the
double negative. With a positively-phrased name like `@mustUse`, that problem
disappears.
On Monday, 7 February 2022 at 13:55:40 UTC, Paul Backus wrote:
I've seen similar sentiments expressed many times before, in
other contexts. Every time, there are some who insist that the
new name will never feel natural to them, and they will never
let go of the old name. And every time,
On Monday, 7 February 2022 at 05:12:39 UTC, forkit wrote:
no amount of replies will change anything ;-)
.. people will still 'think' @nodiscard, but have to 'remember'
it's actually @mustuse, but oops.. no... it's @mustUse..
I do not expect anything from my feedback ;-) .. I'm just
On Monday, 7 February 2022 at 05:09:23 UTC, Paul Backus wrote:
On Monday, 7 February 2022 at 05:05:27 UTC, forkit wrote:
my only concern is the capital U, in @mustUse
This seems a little inconsistent with current attributes??
e.g:
nogc
nothrow
inout
https://dlang.org/spec/attribute.html
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