Re: DConf 2019: Shepherd's Pie Edition

2018-12-23 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 14:20:08 UTC, Nicholas Wilson wrote: On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 10:59:32 UTC, Joakim wrote: You say that like some superior technology exists to replace the conference. It does, read the first link I gave in my first post above. You mean the one that says "

Re: DConf 2019: Shepherd's Pie Edition

2018-12-23 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 12/23/2018 3:40 PM, Rubn wrote: I'll take that to assume you aren't paying for your own ticket, your own hotel expenses, etc. I wonder if you would feel differently about this if you had to pay for all these out of your own pocket. I paid my own expenses for DConf. So did many of the speake

Re: DConf 2019: Shepherd's Pie Edition

2018-12-23 Thread Rubn via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 10:07:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: BTW, another point for the presentations is that we cover the air fare and hotel expenses for the presenters. Quite a lot of people have been able to attend because of this. It's our way of giving a little bit back to strong cont

Re: DConf 2019: Shepherd's Pie Edition

2018-12-23 Thread Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 12/22/18 12:22 PM, Joakim wrote: On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 17:13:06 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: On Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 16:57:10 UTC, Joakim wrote: I'm not trying to discuss it with you or the community. I'm asking the D team who're making this decision why it's being made, desp

LDC "nightly" or latest CI build

2018-12-23 Thread Johan Engelen via Digitalmars-d-announce
Hi all, The dlang.org install.sh script is now able to install the latest successful CI build of LDC master, called "ldc-latest-ci" ! That should make it easier for you to test the newest of the newest of LDC master. On Travis, you can use "d: ldc-latest-ci" to test your project with it. On

Re: DConf 2019: Shepherd's Pie Edition

2018-12-23 Thread Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 at 16:05, Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: > > I'm not sure how a talk is supposed to inspire anything > substantive _before_ you've heard it, and pre-recorded talks > watched at home would fill the same purpose after. > No one is interested in watching pre-recorded ta

Re: DConf 2019: Shepherd's Pie Edition

2018-12-23 Thread Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 at 15:40, Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: > > On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 14:20:08 UTC, Nicholas Wilson > wrote: > > they cannot compare (as in apples to oranges) to high-bandwidth > > low latency personal communication with all the people that > > have an in

Re: DConf 2019: Shepherd's Pie Edition

2018-12-23 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 10:07:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 12/22/2018 10:20 PM, Joakim wrote: Honestly, yours are routinely the worst presentations at DConf. Your strength as a presenter is when you dig deeply into a bunch of technical detail or present some new technical paradigm, s

Re: DConf 2019: Shepherd's Pie Edition

2018-12-23 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 14:20:08 UTC, Nicholas Wilson wrote: they cannot compare (as in apples to oranges) to high-bandwidth low latency personal communication with all the people that have an interest (business, technical, whatever) and technical expertise in the subject at hand. The

Re: DConf 2019: Shepherd's Pie Edition

2018-12-23 Thread Nicholas Wilson via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 10:59:32 UTC, Joakim wrote: You say that like some superior technology exists to replace the conference. It does, read the first link I gave in my first post above. You mean the one that says "I don’t know how to fix conferences"? Yes, DConf may benefit from tu

Re: DConf 2019: Shepherd's Pie Edition

2018-12-23 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 12/23/2018 2:59 AM, Joakim wrote: I wish those organizing DConf would focus on that more. You're free to organize D meetups and conferences as you see fit. Heck, C++ has many conferences, run by different organizations with different ideas on how to do it. Nothing wrong with that. Even A

Re: DConf 2019: Shepherd's Pie Edition

2018-12-23 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 09:51:58 UTC, Nicholas Wilson wrote: On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 08:08:59 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 06:54:26 UTC, Russel Winder wrote: Others have cited Rust and Go. I shall cite Python, Ruby, Groovy, Java, Kotlin, Clojure, Haskell, all

Re: DConf 2019: Shepherd's Pie Edition

2018-12-23 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 12/23/2018 1:36 AM, Russel Winder wrote: If people want to have a DConf, it is not your position to tell them they cannot. No worries, we're full steam ahead on DConf 2019. I, for one, am greatly looking forward to it and seeing everybody.

Re: DConf 2019: Shepherd's Pie Edition

2018-12-23 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 09:36:19 UTC, Russel Winder wrote: On Sun, 2018-12-23 at 08:08 +, Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: […] This questioning of iOS is so removed from reality that it makes me question if you are qualified to comment on this matter at all. iOS is the larg

Re: DConf 2019: Shepherd's Pie Edition

2018-12-23 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 12/22/2018 10:20 PM, Joakim wrote: Honestly, yours are routinely the worst presentations at DConf. Your strength as a presenter is when you dig deeply into a bunch of technical detail or present some new technical paradigm, similar to Andrei. Yet, your DConf keynotes usually go the exact opp

Re: DConf 2019: Shepherd's Pie Edition

2018-12-23 Thread Nicholas Wilson via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 08:08:59 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 06:54:26 UTC, Russel Winder wrote: Others have cited Rust and Go. I shall cite Python, Ruby, Groovy, Java, Kotlin, Clojure, Haskell, all of which have thriving programming language oriented conferences all

Re: DConf 2019: Shepherd's Pie Edition

2018-12-23 Thread Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Sun, 2018-12-23 at 08:08 +, Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: […] > > This questioning of iOS is so removed from reality that it makes > me question if you are qualified to comment on this matter at > all. iOS is the largest consumer software platform that is still > growing, as i

Re: DConf 2019: Shepherd's Pie Edition

2018-12-23 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Sunday, 23 December 2018 at 06:54:26 UTC, Russel Winder wrote: On Sat, 2018-12-22 at 13:46 +, Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: […] Given that this conference format is dying off, is there any explanation for why the D team wants to continue this antiquated ritual? https://ma