Re: DIP 1024---Shared Atomics---Accepted
On Wednesday, 8 January 2020 at 02:31:24 UTC, Manu wrote: On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 12:20 PM Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: It will still do that, either now... or later. So, why wait? Since @safe and shared is all syntactical in nature then all these problems can be avoided by just adding compiler switches: -ignore-shared, -ignore-safe etc...
Re: DIP 1024---Shared Atomics---Accepted
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 12:20 PM Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: > > On 1/6/2020 10:17 PM, Manu wrote: > > Well it was a preview for an unaccepted DIP, so it could have been > > withdrawn. I guess I have increased confidence now, but it still seems > > unnecessary to delay. > > Preview means for accepted DIPs as well when they break existing code. > > >> Don't really have a schedule at the moment. It'll likely be at least a > >> year. > > A year? That's disappointing. What is the reason to delay this? It > > doesn't break anything, and it likely fixes bugs on contact. > > It breaks all code that manipulates shared data directly, whether it was > correctly written or not. It will still do that, either now... or later. So, why wait?
Re: DIP 1024---Shared Atomics---Accepted
On 1/6/2020 10:17 PM, Manu wrote: Well it was a preview for an unaccepted DIP, so it could have been withdrawn. I guess I have increased confidence now, but it still seems unnecessary to delay. Preview means for accepted DIPs as well when they break existing code. Don't really have a schedule at the moment. It'll likely be at least a year. A year? That's disappointing. What is the reason to delay this? It doesn't break anything, and it likely fixes bugs on contact. It breaks all code that manipulates shared data directly, whether it was correctly written or not.
Re: DConf 2019 Pictures
On Tuesday, 7 January 2020 at 13:37:24 UTC, Ethan wrote: On Tuesday, 7 January 2020 at 09:04:04 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote: This one is Laeeth introducing Andrei at Symmetry Investments: http://acehreli.org/photo/dconf_2019/DSC04839.html Ali And if you start here you get to the important bits: BeerConf! http://acehreli.org/photo/dconf_2019/DSC04853.html Damn... I miss beerconf.
Re: DConf 2019 Pictures
On Tuesday, 7 January 2020 at 09:04:04 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote: This one is Laeeth introducing Andrei at Symmetry Investments: http://acehreli.org/photo/dconf_2019/DSC04839.html Ali And if you start here you get to the important bits: BeerConf! http://acehreli.org/photo/dconf_2019/DSC04853.html
Re: Release D 2.090.0
On Tuesday, 7 January 2020 at 11:12:09 UTC, JN wrote: Loving the JSON getter :) Did you give jsonwrap[1] a try? [1] https://code.dlang.org/packages/jsonwrap
Re: Release D 2.090.0
On Tuesday, 7 January 2020 at 10:30:09 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote: Glad to announce D 2.090.0, ♥ to the 48 contributors. This release comes with the ability to convert lazy parameters to delegates, new intrinsics to force rounding to specific floating point precision, unittest builds that no longer execute main by default, a new GC.inFinalizer API, and various other changes. http://dlang.org/download.html http://dlang.org/changelog/2.090.0.html -Martin Loving the JSON getter :)
Release D 2.090.0
Glad to announce D 2.090.0, ♥ to the 48 contributors. This release comes with the ability to convert lazy parameters to delegates, new intrinsics to force rounding to specific floating point precision, unittest builds that no longer execute main by default, a new GC.inFinalizer API, and various other changes. http://dlang.org/download.html http://dlang.org/changelog/2.090.0.html -Martin
Re: Proposal for porting D runtime to WebAssembly
On Tuesday, 7 January 2020 at 08:17:37 UTC, Sebastiaan Koppe wrote: On Sunday, 5 January 2020 at 08:24:21 UTC, Denis Feklushkin wrote: On Friday, 3 January 2020 at 10:34:40 UTC, Sebastiaan Koppe wrote: - reals (probably are going to be unsupported) It seems to me for now they can be threated as double without any problems Yeah, that is what I have done so far. I believe that's the best choice even long term. `real` is supposed to represent the largest natively supported FP type by the underlying ISA. In WebAssembly that's f64, so there's no need emulate anything. Of course, people who need wider integer/fixed/floating types can use third-party libraries for that. There are other platforms where D's real type is the same as double, so I don't see a reason to worry.
DConf 2019 Pictures
This one is Laeeth introducing Andrei at Symmetry Investments: http://acehreli.org/photo/dconf_2019/DSC04839.html Ali
Re: Proposal for porting D runtime to WebAssembly
On Saturday, 4 January 2020 at 16:28:24 UTC, kinke wrote: On Friday, 3 January 2020 at 10:34:40 UTC, Sebastiaan Koppe wrote: You can track the work here: https://github.com/skoppe/druntime/tree/wasm I gave it a quick glance; looks pretty good, and like pretty much work. ;) - Thx. Great. Thanks for looking. The compiler should probably help a bit by firstly predefining a version `CRuntime_WASI` (either for all wasm targets, or for triples like wasm32-unknown-unknown-wasi) and secondly emitting TLS globals as regular globals for now, so that you don't have to add `__gshared` everywhere. Yes. I will probably manage to do the first, but for the second one I definitely need some pointers. - reals (probably are going to be unsupported) It's probably just a matter of checking which type clang uses for C `long double` when targeting wasm, and making LDC use the same type. Could be. I personally prefer to avoid them because wasm only supports f32/f64, which I guess means they will be emulated (I have no idea though, maybe some wasm hosts do the right thing). But some people might need them, so if fixing the ABI is not a big deal, we could include them. - wasi libc needs to be distributed (either in source and compiled into wasm druntime) or statically linked I'd prefer a static lib (and referencing that one via `-defaultlib=druntime-ldc,phobos2-ldc,wasi` in ldc2.conf's wasm section). Good. Building it via LDC CI for inclusion in (some?) prebuilt LDC packages is probably not that much of a hassle with a clang host compiler. I don't think so either. I have already got it building, so I just need to go over my notes. once ldc-build-druntime works If you need some CMake help (excluding C files etc.), https://github.com/ldc-developers/ldc/pull/2787 might have something useful. Thanks. (_start is the wasm's equivalent of _Dmain) Not really; _start (in libc) is used on Linux too, which sets up the C runtime, then calls C main, which calls druntime's _d_run_main which in turn calls _Dmain. Ahh, fumbling as I go along. Thanks for the correction.
Re: Proposal for porting D runtime to WebAssembly
On Sunday, 5 January 2020 at 08:24:21 UTC, Denis Feklushkin wrote: On Friday, 3 January 2020 at 10:34:40 UTC, Sebastiaan Koppe wrote: - reals (probably are going to be unsupported) It seems to me for now they can be threated as double without any problems Yeah, that is what I have done so far.
