Re: [Semi-OT] Sdlang Initiative
On 9/6/21 12:59 PM, SealabJaster wrote: https://github.com/SdlangInitiative Since SDLang is quite closely related to D, as D is one of the only real users of it, I felt this was "D appropriate" enough to post. I personally think SDLang is much better than the likes of JSON, XML, and YAML for human-centered configuration files, so I had a drive for a few days to implement a library for a few languages: * C# (done previously before this) * TS/JS (^^) * C * F# * I've also forked sdlite just so it shows up in the group And I wanted to get around to doing Python and Java before announcing anything. However, as usual, I've already lost interest in the project, so this mostly here for whoever's interested in it now, since I put a decent amount of work in already. Yeah, I have that problem sometimes too... But I actually am using sdlang-d for configuration files on my web server. However, I do not like the interface for it very much. SDLang itself is OK, but I find actually that I don't love the format. Like yaml, I have to research how the file format works every time I want to use it (maybe just because I very rarely have need to edit sdl files). For that reason I prefer json, but I hate that json doesn't allow comments and is full of quote spam (for config files). I am planning at some point to replace the config system with a [json5](https://json5.org/) implementation (based on jsoniopipe), otherwise this would definitely interest me! -Steve
[Semi-OT] Sdlang Initiative
https://github.com/SdlangInitiative Since SDLang is quite closely related to D, as D is one of the only real users of it, I felt this was "D appropriate" enough to post. I personally think SDLang is much better than the likes of JSON, XML, and YAML for human-centered configuration files, so I had a drive for a few days to implement a library for a few languages: * C# (done previously before this) * TS/JS (^^) * C * F# * I've also forked sdlite just so it shows up in the group And I wanted to get around to doing Python and Java before announcing anything. However, as usual, I've already lost interest in the project, so this mostly here for whoever's interested in it now, since I put a decent amount of work in already. There are also a few misc projects in there, which I was hoping to use as examples of how SDLang could be nice to work with: * sdlschema - Validate SDLang files against a schema. * sdlmake - A basic build system based around LUA and SDLang * sdltools - Was going to be a bunch of misc tooling such as generating large Sdlang files, finding the difference between two SDLang files (for implementation parity checks), etc. I'll probably still do bits and pieces to it over time, but I think my main motivation for it is pretty much gone now. All of the implementations are incomplete in one way or another, and their actual quality is dubious at best, so I'm not sure how useable most of them even are. I wanted to write a repo that made each implementation perform a test against the same test suite of SDLang files to try and ensure they're at a certain level of standard, but I couldn't be bothered. Enjoy, maybe, or not, idk... sorry for the noise, but I didn't want to feel like I wasted the last week on this.
Re: Summary of the D Language Foundation Monthly Meeting on August 25th, 2021
On Monday, 6 September 2021 at 11:17:53 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: The D Language Foundation meeting for the month of August took place on Friday, August 27, at 13:00 UTC. Participating were: [...] Happy to see the meeting this month was fruitful as well, looking forward to the blog posts/anouncements :) As a topic to bring up in a future meeting, could you please bring up DIP 1040? I talked to Max about it and he said that implementing it requires a backend change which needs Walter's help(I believe he said something about exceptions being problematic), but due to reasons, Walter hasn't been able to see to it. Considering Walter's desire to make things easier for C/C++ to D translator developers(as seen by his initiative regarding `bitfield`), could you please bring up the topic of this DIP's implementation and/or the next iteration of the DIP's design for community review? It would be nice to see some progress visible on this front. Thank you for all the work you and the other language maintainers do to make D better :D
Re: Surprise - New Post on the GtkD Coding Blog
On Friday, 3 September 2021 at 15:47:41 UTC, Ron Tarrant wrote: Has it really been 15 months since I last posted an article? Um, yes. Yes, it has. I hope I haven't completely lost my good will here in the D-lang community. I'm feeling better now, the medication seems to be working, and I've got a new article... well, it was already in the works last year when I stopped posting, but I've edited the heck out of it and hopefully it's up to my usual standards. At the top of the article, I ask whether or not anyone is still interested in reading articles about GtkD 3.9 (Mike Wey released GtkD 4 a couple of weeks ago) and I explain why I'm not all that keen on making the transition. Please let me know in comments (Yes, GtkD Coding now has comments) if you think it's still worth writing articles centred around 3.9. Thanks. Here's the link: https://gtkdcoding.com/2021/09/03/0112-gtk-gio-application-barebones.html Good to see another post :) Even tho I've still not used GtkD yet, I've still learned a few things from your blog posts over the years and it'll definitely be a help when/if I ever decide to use it.
Summary of the D Language Foundation Monthly Meeting on August 25th, 2021
The D Language Foundation meeting for the month of August took place on Friday, August 27, at 13:00 UTC. Participating were: * Walter Bright * Átila Neves * Andrei Alexandrescu * Ali Çehreli * Razvan Nitu * Max Haughton * Me ## Topics discussed ### SAOC application to solve "dub dependency hell" One of the SAOC applications was on the agenda. The proposed project aims to solve an issue that arises with dub when two dependencies, in turn, depend on different versions of a third dependency. Currently, dub will error out. The proposal calls for two new compiler switches that dub can make use of to resolve the version difference by modifying the mangled names of the functions from two versions to distinguish them. As one of the SAOC judges, Átila liked the end goal of the project but was concerned about the approach. Walter also expressed concern about the ramifications of the new switches. He suggested exploring if dmd's existing `-mv` switch can be used to solve the problem. If that is not possible, the SAOC student will proceed with implementing the original proposal. Once the project is complete, it can be tested and evaluated to see if it works without any problematic consequences. ### Potential contract jobs We talked about getting more active in [making use of our HR fund][1]. It's currently sitting at $17,525. We have one contract job that's indefinitely delayed, but it's been a while since we put this fund to use. As a start, I proposed paying someone to investigate the DLL situation, see what's still broken, and fix it. Someone pointed out that Martin Kinkelin has significantly improved DLL support for LDC in order to make Phobos/Druntime as a DLL a reality. So whether or not this particular initiative moves forward depends on if there's enough work left to do to fund it, and I'll know more once I get the details from Martin. If not, we'll have other funded projects to propose. (And if anyone is appreciative of the work Martin has done on this issue and with LDC in general, you can show it [by sponsoring his work][2].) ### Server management The services that comprise dlang.org are not all on one server, they are administered by different people and others generally have no admin access. This includes not just the servers, but the domains and DNS settings. This is a result of some of the services, such as the D Tour and the web forum interface, having been created and managed by volunteers, and subsequently brought under the dlang.org umbrella. At a previous meeting last year, we discussed the need to unify things somewhat. It would be beneficial to have multiple people with admin access to all of the services that comprise our core community. Around the same time last year, an anonymous donor provided $500 to the foundation to put to use on server management, and also offered his experience and expertise if we need it. We subsequently discussed options at a couple of meetings, but did not come to a final conclusion, and put the issue on the backburner. Recently, we received news that the long-term administrator of dlang.org is looking toward retirement not too far down the road. He gave us significantly advance notice so that we can make preparations with time to spare. Now is the time to take the issue off the backburner. We decided as a first step to reach out to our anonymous donor since he already offered to help, to see if he is still willing. If so, we will consult with him and start formulating a plan. We may need to ask for volunteers or raise money for a part-time position, or who knows what. I will put out more information and announcements as we progress. ### Gamification of Bugzilla issues Razvan has been working on a system to track and reward contributions of Bugzilla fixes across the core repositories, with help from Vladimir Panteleev. He's got the implementation done and has successfully tested it, so now he's ready to pull the trigger on it. We discussed potential rewards for the first round. Razvan will soon publish a blog post describing the new system and detailing the rewards. The short of it is that each reward period will run for three months. At the end of the period, the top three contributors will each be rewarded. Razvan will explain in the blog post how the scoring system works. Rewards will vary and will be announced at the beginning of each period. As a pilot run, the first period will be shorter, starting from the date Razvan announces in his blog post and ending on the first day of DConf Online (November 20). That will allow us to announce the reward winners at DConf. The second period will be longer, starting from November 21 and running until March 31. The third period will then begin the quarterly schedule starting from April 1. ### DIP 1029, Bugzilla 19320 Two recent PRs from one of this year's SAOC participants, Luís Ferreira, made their way onto the agenda. [He submitted
Re: Surprise - New Post on the GtkD Coding Blog
On Monday, 6 September 2021 at 01:59:10 UTC, Joel wrote: Great to hear from you again. I've GUI programs that I use every day (a diary program, and a Bible program). Also sometimes use a GUI Money program. I really appreciated your help. Glad to be of help, Joel.
Re: Surprise - New Post on the GtkD Coding Blog
On Saturday, 4 September 2021 at 11:50:44 UTC, Mike Wey wrote: On 03-09-2021 20:42, M.M. wrote: I just recently visited your blog, and was wandering whether it's over now... I also visited gtkd website, and was wandering whether it's over now (the website still shows a wrapper for GTK 3.24). Happy to see you are back and well. I wonder where did you learn about a new gtkD release? Anyway, on the long run, I guess covering GTK 4 will be very welcome. The GTK 4 version still needs work and isn't released yet. I currently don't have the time to work on it, but i hope i am able to resume working on it later this year. Glad to hear you still have some work for gtkd on mind. (I recall your announcement along the lines of seeking someone to step-in for the help with gtkd.) Given the success of gtkd, it would be a pity if gtk4 did not get into it. Good luck finding time (and joy) to work on it. I appreciate the work.
