Re: Slide design

2009-05-07 Thread Lutger
Walter Bright wrote: Sean Kelly wrote: For lectures I basically have a choice between two options: 1. Take notes and not remember a darn thing that was said. 2. Not take any notes and remember the lecture. Eh, I found that the physical act of taking notes tended to fix it in my brain.

Re: Slide design

2009-05-05 Thread Michel Fortin
On 2009-05-04 14:47:10 -0400, Sean Kelly s...@invisibleduck.org said: For lectures I basically have a choice between two options: 1. Take notes and not remember a darn thing that was said. 2. Not take any notes and remember the lecture. I've seen a few raised eyebrows at times, but this is

Re: Slide design

2009-05-05 Thread Daniel Keep
The subjects I did the best in and learned the most at uni were the ones where I didn't *have* to take notes and could concentrate on what the lecturer was trying to teach us. Force students to take notes and the only thing they'll learn is how to write fast. -- Daniel

Re: Slide design

2009-05-05 Thread Georg Wrede
Daniel Keep wrote: The subjects I did the best in and learned the most at uni were the ones where I didn't *have* to take notes and could concentrate on what the lecturer was trying to teach us. Force students to take notes and the only thing they'll learn is how to write fast. The first

Re: Slide design

2009-05-05 Thread Daniel de Kok
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Daniel Keep daniel.keep.li...@gmail.com wrote: The subjects I did the best in and learned the most at uni were the ones where I didn't *have* to take notes and could concentrate on what the lecturer was trying to teach us. Indeed, if writing down notes is

Re: Slide design

2009-05-05 Thread Sean Kelly
== Quote from Daniel de Kok (m...@danieldk.org)'s article On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Daniel Keep daniel.keep.li...@gmail.com wrote: The subjects I did the best in and learned the most at uni were the ones where I didn't *have* to take notes and could concentrate on what the lecturer

Re: Slide design

2009-05-05 Thread Walter Bright
Sean Kelly wrote: Some professors seem to think that lecturing about material that isn't presented anywhere else will force students to attend class. But in my experience it also creates a class that takes notes furiously rather than engaging the material and asking questions. Overall, I think

Re: Slide design

2009-05-05 Thread BCS
Reply to Sean, Some professors seem to think that lecturing about material that isn't presented anywhere else will force students to attend class. But in my experience it also creates a class that takes notes furiously rather than engaging the material and asking questions. Overall, I think

Re: Slide design

2009-05-05 Thread bearophile
BCS: At the other end, if the professor *only* lectures on what's in the book, what are they being paid for? Just talking? Better would be for the professor to lecture on application, the what/why (and not the how), how ideas are related, anecdotes and the like. Books are meant to be read

Re: Slide design

2009-05-05 Thread dsimcha
== Quote from BCS (a...@pathlink.com)'s article Reply to Sean, Some professors seem to think that lecturing about material that isn't presented anywhere else will force students to attend class. But in my experience it also creates a class that takes notes furiously rather than engaging

Re: Slide design

2009-05-05 Thread Christopher Wright
Simen Kjaeraas wrote: On Mon, 04 May 2009 20:47:10 +0200, Sean Kelly s...@invisibleduck.org wrote: == Quote from Andrei Alexandrescu (seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org)'s article I don't agree. I think there is much more at work here. Slides are limited in size and text content simply because

Re: Slide design

2009-05-05 Thread Georg Wrede
Sean Kelly wrote: == Quote from BCS (a...@pathlink.com)'s article Reply to Walter, Sean Kelly wrote: Some professors seem to think that lecturing about material that isn't presented anywhere else will force students to attend class. But in my experience it also creates a class that takes

Slide design

2009-05-04 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
flGeorg Wrede wrote: Walter Bright wrote: Everyone I talked to who was there didn't like it. I think there's the *subconscious* notion of not respecting the audience by bothering to do a Proper Presentation. And they let it seep through, instead of pausing to think about the upsides. (The

Re: Slide design

2009-05-04 Thread Walter Bright
I generally agree with Andrei (and he knows what he's doing, his talks are both entertaining and informative, several cuts above the usual ones I have to sit through). I find after giving a presentation using a non-traditional format, that the non-traditional format becomes the topic of

Re: Slide design

2009-05-04 Thread bearophile
Andrei Alexandrescu: Slides are limited in size and text content simply because there is so much information a person can absorb simultaneously by hearing and seeing. Of course mammal brains have limits, but such limits are always higher than the amount of information shown in normal

Re: Slide design

2009-05-04 Thread dsimcha
== Quote from Andrei Alexandrescu (seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org)'s article The slide is not meant to convey complex information with completeness. There is, for example, no hope in putting complex proofs or formulae on the slide. Wow. I really wish the rest of the Ph.D students in this world

Re: Slide design

2009-05-04 Thread Daniel Keep
Walter Bright wrote: ... o pdf renders a lot better than html. Why that should be, I don't know, but it is obviously better. I could be the old Mac feature. From what I recall, Apple is fanatical about the on-screen display of something matching, as closely as possible, the on-page

Re: Slide design

2009-05-04 Thread superdan
Sean Kelly Wrote: == Quote from Andrei Alexandrescu (seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org)'s article I don't agree. I think there is much more at work here. Slides are limited in size and text content simply because there is so much information a person can absorb simultaneously by hearing and