Re: Dconf 2014 talks - when to be available

2014-06-03 Thread Mike Parker via Digitalmars-d-announce

On 6/3/2014 1:27 AM, Dicebot wrote:

On Monday, 2 June 2014 at 15:47:19 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:

Until someone stumbles across the video and posts it to Reddit before
Andrei intends to.


If community can't respect such a simple request we have bigger problems
than marketing.


Oh, I don't necessarily mean someone who follows the newsgroup. My point 
is that any random Joe looking for D stuff, and who has no clue about 
the release schedule, can stumble across it and share it. It's the 
downside of separating the release and the announcement of the release 
-- loss of control.


Re: Dconf 2014 talks - when to be available

2014-06-03 Thread Tobias Pankrath via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Tuesday, 3 June 2014 at 08:39:12 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:

On 6/3/2014 1:27 AM, Dicebot wrote:

On Monday, 2 June 2014 at 15:47:19 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
Until someone stumbles across the video and posts it to 
Reddit before

Andrei intends to.


If community can't respect such a simple request we have 
bigger problems

than marketing.


Oh, I don't necessarily mean someone who follows the newsgroup. 
My point is that any random Joe looking for D stuff, and who 
has no clue about the release schedule, can stumble across it 
and share it. It's the downside of separating the release and 
the announcement of the release -- loss of control.


Then just post them on the newsgroup.


Re: Dconf 2014 talks - when to be available

2014-06-02 Thread Bruno Medeiros via Digitalmars-d-announce

On 28/05/2014 14:31, Dicebot wrote:

On Wednesday, 28 May 2014 at 12:20:34 UTC, Bruno Medeiros wrote:

On 28/05/2014 04:54, Saurabh Das wrote:


I actually prefer the slow release of the videos - it gives me enough
time to digest each talk and discuss it before the next one grabs mine
and everyone else's attention. I think releasing one video every few
days leads to much more in-depth discussion on the forum as well.


I agree with this.


video release != video announcement


Huh?
I either disagree, or I don't understand your point.
A release implies an announcement of some sort somewhere, otherwise it's 
not really a release...


--
Bruno Medeiros
https://twitter.com/brunodomedeiros


Re: Dconf 2014 talks - when to be available

2014-06-02 Thread Dicebot via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Monday, 2 June 2014 at 14:09:06 UTC, Bruno Medeiros wrote:

On 28/05/2014 14:31, Dicebot wrote:
On Wednesday, 28 May 2014 at 12:20:34 UTC, Bruno Medeiros 
wrote:

On 28/05/2014 04:54, Saurabh Das wrote:


I actually prefer the slow release of the videos - it gives 
me enough
time to digest each talk and discuss it before the next one 
grabs mine
and everyone else's attention. I think releasing one video 
every few
days leads to much more in-depth discussion on the forum as 
well.


I agree with this.


video release != video announcement


Huh?
I either disagree, or I don't understand your point.
A release implies an announcement of some sort somewhere, 
otherwise it's not really a release...


By releasing video I  mean simply making it available to those 
who are interested. By announcing - actually posting links to 
forum / reddit / whatever and encouraging discussion. By keeping 
that stuff separate you can both make happy those who await for 
videos and create marketing events Andrei wants.


Re: Dconf 2014 talks - when to be available

2014-06-02 Thread Mike Parker via Digitalmars-d-announce

On 6/2/2014 11:46 PM, Dicebot wrote:

On Monday, 2 June 2014 at 14:09:06 UTC, Bruno Medeiros wrote:

On 28/05/2014 14:31, Dicebot wrote:

On Wednesday, 28 May 2014 at 12:20:34 UTC, Bruno Medeiros wrote:

On 28/05/2014 04:54, Saurabh Das wrote:


I actually prefer the slow release of the videos - it gives me enough
time to digest each talk and discuss it before the next one grabs mine
and everyone else's attention. I think releasing one video every few
days leads to much more in-depth discussion on the forum as well.


I agree with this.


video release != video announcement


Huh?
I either disagree, or I don't understand your point.
A release implies an announcement of some sort somewhere, otherwise
it's not really a release...


By releasing video I  mean simply making it available to those who are
interested. By announcing - actually posting links to forum / reddit /
whatever and encouraging discussion. By keeping that stuff separate you
can both make happy those who await for videos and create marketing
events Andrei wants.


Until someone stumbles across the video and posts it to Reddit before 
Andrei intends to.


Re: Dconf 2014 talks - when to be available

2014-06-02 Thread Dicebot via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Monday, 2 June 2014 at 15:47:19 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
Until someone stumbles across the video and posts it to Reddit 
before Andrei intends to.


If community can't respect such a simple request we have bigger 
problems than marketing.


Re: Dconf 2014 talks - when to be available

2014-05-29 Thread Nick B via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Wednesday, 28 May 2014 at 13:31:26 UTC, Dicebot wrote:

On Wednesday, 28 May 2014 at 12:20:34 UTC, Bruno Medeiros wrote:

On 28/05/2014 04:54, Saurabh Das wrote:


I actually prefer the slow release of the videos - it gives 
me enough
time to digest each talk and discuss it before the next one 
grabs mine
and everyone else's attention. I think releasing one video 
every few
days leads to much more in-depth discussion on the forum as 
well.


I agree with this.


video release != video announcement



Scotts talk as at 29 May, had over 20,500 views.  wow !


Re: Dconf 2014 talks - when to be available

2014-05-28 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d-announce

On 28/05/14 00:15, Leandro Lucarella wrote:


I think they should be uploaded all ASAP and then you can do official
announcements in reddit or wherever you thinks it's best to promote the
language. But really, introducing artificial waiting time for people
ALREADY interested and using the language in the name of marketing is
really annoying!


Yeah, I completely agree. It's like when movies were first released in 
the movie theaters, then, a year later on DVD. Now days people expect 
them to be released almost at the same time for streaming/downloading.


--
/Jacob Carlborg


Re: Dconf 2014 talks - when to be available

2014-05-28 Thread simendsjo via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 05/28/2014 05:54 AM, Saurabh Das wrote:
 On Tuesday, 27 May 2014 at 23:48:44 UTC, currysoup wrote:
 On Tuesday, 27 May 2014 at 23:08:01 UTC, Leandro Lucarella wrote:
 Ali Çehreli, el 27 de May a las 10:40 me escribiste:
 On 05/27/2014 09:18 AM, Suliman wrote:

  apparently to stay on top of reddit for awhile.
  Explain plz

 A benefit of releasing the presentations slowly is to enable
 constant exposure to DConf in the coming weeks, as opposed to making
 all of them available and potentially watch interest die in a few
 days.

 I think they should be uploaded all ASAP and then you can do official
 announcements in reddit or wherever you thinks it's best to promote the
 language. But really, introducing artificial waiting time for people
 ALREADY interested and using the language in the name of marketing is
 really annoying!

 I agree 100%. Educating people currently interested is as
 important as marketing.
 
 I actually prefer the slow release of the videos - it gives me enough
 time to digest each talk and discuss it before the next one grabs mine
 and everyone else's attention. I think releasing one video every few
 days leads to much more in-depth discussion on the forum as well.

Agree. I find it nice to have each video gaining some time in the
spotlight and the discussions that follow. Even though I'm so exited I
actually want all the videos at once!


Re: Dconf 2014 talks - when to be available

2014-05-28 Thread Leandro Lucarella via Digitalmars-d-announce
Saurabh Das, el 28 de May a las 03:54 me escribiste:
 On Tuesday, 27 May 2014 at 23:48:44 UTC, currysoup wrote:
 On Tuesday, 27 May 2014 at 23:08:01 UTC, Leandro Lucarella wrote:
 Ali Çehreli, el 27 de May a las 10:40 me escribiste:
 On 05/27/2014 09:18 AM, Suliman wrote:
 
  apparently to stay on top of reddit for awhile.
  Explain plz
 
 A benefit of releasing the presentations slowly is to enable
 constant exposure to DConf in the coming weeks, as opposed to
 making
 all of them available and potentially watch interest die in a
 few
 days.
 
 I think they should be uploaded all ASAP and then you can do
 official
 announcements in reddit or wherever you thinks it's best to
 promote the
 language. But really, introducing artificial waiting time for
 people
 ALREADY interested and using the language in the name of
 marketing is
 really annoying!
 
 I agree 100%. Educating people currently interested is as
 important as marketing.
 
 I actually prefer the slow release of the videos - it gives me
 enough time to digest each talk and discuss it before the next one
 grabs mine and everyone else's attention. I think releasing one
 video every few days leads to much more in-depth discussion on the
 forum as well.

Nodoby is stopping you from doing that with what I proposed. All you
have to do is still do the one-every-few-days official releases, with
a nice announcement. It could be called featured talk of today or
whatever.

Just because some people need some time digest talks it makes NO SENSE
to have all the rest of the people that doesn't have that problem FORCED
to wait. Seriously.

-- 
Leandro Lucarella (AKA luca) http://llucax.com.ar/


Re: Dconf 2014 talks - when to be available

2014-05-28 Thread Leandro Lucarella via Digitalmars-d-announce
Jacob Carlborg, el 28 de May a las 08:18 me escribiste:
 On 28/05/14 00:15, Leandro Lucarella wrote:
 
 I think they should be uploaded all ASAP and then you can do official
 announcements in reddit or wherever you thinks it's best to promote the
 language. But really, introducing artificial waiting time for people
 ALREADY interested and using the language in the name of marketing is
 really annoying!
 
 Yeah, I completely agree. It's like when movies were first released
 in the movie theaters, then, a year later on DVD. Now days people
 expect them to be released almost at the same time for
 streaming/downloading.

Maybe we need an underground group that leaks D talks in bittorrent so
we can get them fresh 8-)

-- 
Leandro Lucarella (AKA luca) http://llucax.com.ar/
--
No es malo que en la condición humana exista la mentira. Miente el púber
si quiere ponerla.
-- Ricardo Vaporeso. Madrid, 1921.


Re: Dconf 2014 talks - when to be available

2014-05-28 Thread Bruno Medeiros via Digitalmars-d-announce

On 28/05/2014 04:54, Saurabh Das wrote:


I actually prefer the slow release of the videos - it gives me enough
time to digest each talk and discuss it before the next one grabs mine
and everyone else's attention. I think releasing one video every few
days leads to much more in-depth discussion on the forum as well.


I agree with this.

--
Bruno Medeiros
https://twitter.com/brunodomedeiros


Re: Dconf 2014 talks - when to be available

2014-05-28 Thread Dicebot via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Wednesday, 28 May 2014 at 12:20:34 UTC, Bruno Medeiros wrote:

On 28/05/2014 04:54, Saurabh Das wrote:


I actually prefer the slow release of the videos - it gives me 
enough
time to digest each talk and discuss it before the next one 
grabs mine
and everyone else's attention. I think releasing one video 
every few
days leads to much more in-depth discussion on the forum as 
well.


I agree with this.


video release != video announcement


Re: Dconf 2014 talks - when to be available

2014-05-27 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Tuesday, 27 May 2014 at 02:51:51 UTC, Nick B wrote:

Hi

Can any one advise when we can expect the conference talks (and 
perhaps the slides as well) to available to download or via 
Utube

 ?

I saw some of the streamed talks, but would love to view the 
rest.
The MC said initially that they'd have them up in a day or two 
most likely, then Andrei said he wanted to stagger their release 
over a couple weeks like he did last time, apparently to stay on 
top of reddit for awhile.


I'm sure they'll post something in the announcements forum 
eventually.


Re: Dconf 2014 talks - when to be available

2014-05-27 Thread Nick B via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Tuesday, 27 May 2014 at 07:14:54 UTC, Joakim wrote:

The MC said initially that they'd have them up in a day or two 
most likely, then Andrei said he wanted to stagger their 
release over a couple weeks like he did last time, apparently 
to stay on top of reddit for awhile.


I'm sure they'll post something in the announcements forum 
eventually.


perhaps Andrei would like to reply ?

Nick


Re: Dconf 2014 talks - when to be available

2014-05-27 Thread Suliman via Digitalmars-d-announce

apparently to stay on top of reddit for awhile.

Explain plz


Re: Dconf 2014 talks - when to be available

2014-05-27 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d-announce

On 5/27/14, 12:41 AM, Nick B wrote:

On Tuesday, 27 May 2014 at 07:14:54 UTC, Joakim wrote:


The MC said initially that they'd have them up in a day or two most
likely, then Andrei said he wanted to stagger their release over a
couple weeks like he did last time, apparently to stay on top of
reddit for awhile.

I'm sure they'll post something in the announcements forum eventually.


perhaps Andrei would like to reply ?

Nick


The schedule of making recordings available will be similar to that of 
DConf 2013. -- Andrei


Re: Dconf 2014 talks - when to be available

2014-05-27 Thread Ali Çehreli via Digitalmars-d-announce

On 05/27/2014 09:18 AM, Suliman wrote:

 apparently to stay on top of reddit for awhile.
 Explain plz

A benefit of releasing the presentations slowly is to enable constant 
exposure to DConf in the coming weeks, as opposed to making all of them 
available and potentially watch interest die in a few days.


Ali



Re: Dconf 2014 talks - when to be available

2014-05-27 Thread Leandro Lucarella via Digitalmars-d-announce
Ali Çehreli, el 27 de May a las 10:40 me escribiste:
 On 05/27/2014 09:18 AM, Suliman wrote:
 
  apparently to stay on top of reddit for awhile.
  Explain plz
 
 A benefit of releasing the presentations slowly is to enable
 constant exposure to DConf in the coming weeks, as opposed to making
 all of them available and potentially watch interest die in a few
 days.

I think they should be uploaded all ASAP and then you can do official
announcements in reddit or wherever you thinks it's best to promote the
language. But really, introducing artificial waiting time for people
ALREADY interested and using the language in the name of marketing is
really annoying!

-- 
Leandro Lucarella (AKA luca) http://llucax.com.ar/
--
Fantasy is as important as wisdom


Re: Dconf 2014 talks - when to be available

2014-05-27 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Tuesday, 27 May 2014 at 23:08:01 UTC, Leandro Lucarella wrote:
I think they should be uploaded all ASAP and then you can do 
official announcements in reddit or wherever you thinks it's 
best to promote the language.


Aye, we could also, if we want some new thing to post to reddit 
each time, also write accompanying articles or something so even 
people who watch them all early will still have a reason to click 
and get involved instead of just leaking the links themselves.


Re: Dconf 2014 talks - when to be available

2014-05-27 Thread currysoup via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Tuesday, 27 May 2014 at 23:08:01 UTC, Leandro Lucarella wrote:

Ali Çehreli, el 27 de May a las 10:40 me escribiste:

On 05/27/2014 09:18 AM, Suliman wrote:

 apparently to stay on top of reddit for awhile.
 Explain plz

A benefit of releasing the presentations slowly is to enable
constant exposure to DConf in the coming weeks, as opposed to 
making
all of them available and potentially watch interest die in a 
few

days.


I think they should be uploaded all ASAP and then you can do 
official
announcements in reddit or wherever you thinks it's best to 
promote the
language. But really, introducing artificial waiting time for 
people
ALREADY interested and using the language in the name of 
marketing is

really annoying!


I agree 100%. Educating people currently interested is as
important as marketing.


Re: Dconf 2014 talks - when to be available

2014-05-27 Thread Saurabh Das via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Tuesday, 27 May 2014 at 23:48:44 UTC, currysoup wrote:
On Tuesday, 27 May 2014 at 23:08:01 UTC, Leandro Lucarella 
wrote:

Ali Çehreli, el 27 de May a las 10:40 me escribiste:

On 05/27/2014 09:18 AM, Suliman wrote:

 apparently to stay on top of reddit for awhile.
 Explain plz

A benefit of releasing the presentations slowly is to enable
constant exposure to DConf in the coming weeks, as opposed to 
making
all of them available and potentially watch interest die in a 
few

days.


I think they should be uploaded all ASAP and then you can do 
official
announcements in reddit or wherever you thinks it's best to 
promote the
language. But really, introducing artificial waiting time for 
people
ALREADY interested and using the language in the name of 
marketing is

really annoying!


I agree 100%. Educating people currently interested is as
important as marketing.


I actually prefer the slow release of the videos - it gives me 
enough time to digest each talk and discuss it before the next 
one grabs mine and everyone else's attention. I think releasing 
one video every few days leads to much more in-depth discussion 
on the forum as well.