Re: I've started blog a little more about D.

2013-07-27 Thread Nick Sabalausky
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 15:39:47 -0700
Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote:

 On 7/21/2013 3:24 PM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
  This is why I prefer to use 'thou' when writing documentation. :-P
 
 I use thou when I'm issuing commandments to my subjects.

Thou shalt not obey this commandment.



Re: I've started blog a little more about D.

2013-07-24 Thread Kirill
the colors still through me off. with orange and shades of grey 
for the text and the background.


i liked the article.


On Monday, 22 July 2013 at 19:07:50 UTC, Gary Willoughby wrote:

On Monday, 22 July 2013 at 12:39:28 UTC, renoX wrote:

On Sunday, 21 July 2013 at 20:25:38 UTC, Tobias Pankrath wrote:
Stopped reading after two sentences because it is grey font 
on grey background.


+1
Please fix the colours: I don't care whether you use I or i, 
anyway I can't read what you wrote..
Sure I could copy/paste the text, mess with the CSS, but no: 
if you truly want readers fix your blog colours.


Thanks,
renoX


Thanks, i've increased the contrast a bit, it maybe was a 'bit' 
too grey!




Re: I've started blog a little more about D.

2013-07-24 Thread Gary Willoughby

On Wednesday, 24 July 2013 at 17:27:46 UTC, Kirill wrote:
I think bright orange on the webpage distracts from the low 
contrast main text.


That's the intended design. Also, the contrast passes online all 
contrast tests i've tried, so i will leave it as it is.


Re: I've started blog a little more about D.

2013-07-22 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu

On 7/20/13 2:19 PM, Gary Willoughby wrote:

I'm starting to blog a little more and in particular i've started
writing more about D. I'm using it a great deal at work now and all new
stuff is to be written in it. I'm loving every minute of this and really
want to sing its praises.


Great work! If your employer is not listed at 
http://wiki.dlang.org/Current_D_Use, could you please add it?


Thanks,

Andrei




Re: I've started blog a little more about D.

2013-07-22 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu

On 7/21/13 7:18 PM, Walter Bright wrote:

On 7/20/2013 2:19 PM, Gary Willoughby wrote:

Be gentle: http://nomad.so/2013/07/templates-in-d-explained/


http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1irdjn/how_to_use_templates_in_d/


Publishing to reddit should be preferably done on weekdays in the morning.

Andrei



Re: I've started blog a little more about D.

2013-07-22 Thread renoX

On Sunday, 21 July 2013 at 20:25:38 UTC, Tobias Pankrath wrote:
Stopped reading after two sentences because it is grey font on 
grey background.


+1
Please fix the colours: I don't care whether you use I or i, 
anyway I can't read what you wrote..
Sure I could copy/paste the text, mess with the CSS, but no: if 
you truly want readers fix your blog colours.


Thanks,
renoX


Re: I've started blog a little more about D.

2013-07-22 Thread Gary Willoughby

On Monday, 22 July 2013 at 12:39:28 UTC, renoX wrote:

On Sunday, 21 July 2013 at 20:25:38 UTC, Tobias Pankrath wrote:
Stopped reading after two sentences because it is grey font on 
grey background.


+1
Please fix the colours: I don't care whether you use I or i, 
anyway I can't read what you wrote..
Sure I could copy/paste the text, mess with the CSS, but no: if 
you truly want readers fix your blog colours.


Thanks,
renoX


Thanks, i've increased the contrast a bit, it maybe was a 'bit' 
too grey!


Re: I've started blog a little more about D.

2013-07-21 Thread Peter Alexander
Content looks great, but I was continually distracted by the 
consistent use of lowercase i as a pronoun. Please fix this. It 
would be a real shame for such a long and otherwise excellent 
article to be rendered amateurish by such a trivial error.


Just in case English isn't your first language: the pronoun I 
is always uppercase, including when used with contractions, e.g. 
I'm, I've, I'll etc.


Re: I've started blog a little more about D.

2013-07-21 Thread Gary Willoughby

On Sunday, 21 July 2013 at 11:31:09 UTC, Peter Alexander wrote:
Content looks great, but I was continually distracted by the 
consistent use of lowercase i as a pronoun. Please fix this. It 
would be a real shame for such a long and otherwise excellent 
article to be rendered amateurish by such a trivial error.


Just in case English isn't your first language: the pronoun I 
is always uppercase, including when used with contractions, 
e.g. I'm, I've, I'll etc.


Thanks for the kind words about the article.

He he, this is a bit of concious rebellion on my part. English is 
my first language but i don't agree that 'i' should be 
capitalized mid-sentence. I am too humble to consider a 
mid-sentence 'i'  important enough.


Interesting article regarding 'i':
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03wwln-guestsafire-t.html



Re: I've started blog a little more about D.

2013-07-21 Thread Peter Lundgren

On Sunday, 21 July 2013 at 13:47:06 UTC, Gary Willoughby wrote:

On Sunday, 21 July 2013 at 11:31:09 UTC, Peter Alexander wrote:
Content looks great, but I was continually distracted by the 
consistent use of lowercase i as a pronoun. Please fix this. 
It would be a real shame for such a long and otherwise 
excellent article to be rendered amateurish by such a trivial 
error.


Just in case English isn't your first language: the pronoun 
I is always uppercase, including when used with 
contractions, e.g. I'm, I've, I'll etc.


Thanks for the kind words about the article.

He he, this is a bit of concious rebellion on my part. English 
is my first language but i don't agree that 'i' should be 
capitalized mid-sentence. I am too humble to consider a 
mid-sentence 'i'  important enough.


Interesting article regarding 'i':
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03wwln-guestsafire-t.html


It doesn't matter why. That's how it's done in English. You don't 
get to change the capitalization of keywords in D. Same thing 
here.


Re: I've started blog a little more about D.

2013-07-21 Thread Gary Willoughby

On Sunday, 21 July 2013 at 14:18:50 UTC, Peter Lundgren wrote:
It doesn't matter why. That's how it's done in English. You 
don't get to change the capitalization of keywords in D. Same 
thing here.


Computer languages are wholly different from *fluid* spoken and 
written languages. See en_US vs en_GB. Like i said i'm rebelling 
against the uppercase 'i' and i have for years.


Please don't let this degenerate into a grammar nazi poasting 
session, please focus on the article content instead.


Re: I've started blog a little more about D.

2013-07-21 Thread Vladimir Panteleev

On Saturday, 20 July 2013 at 21:19:03 UTC, Gary Willoughby wrote:
I'm starting to blog a little more and in particular i've 
started writing more about D.


Cool! Would you mind adding a D tag to the related articles, so I 
could add it to Planet D ( http://planet.dsource.org/ ) ?


Re: I've started blog a little more about D.

2013-07-21 Thread Gary Willoughby

On Sunday, 21 July 2013 at 17:05:23 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
Cool! Would you mind adding a D tag to the related articles, so 
I could add it to Planet D ( http://planet.dsource.org/ ) ?


http://nomad.so/tag/d/


Re: I've started blog a little more about D.

2013-07-21 Thread Vladimir Panteleev

On Sunday, 21 July 2013 at 17:54:12 UTC, Gary Willoughby wrote:
On Sunday, 21 July 2013 at 17:05:23 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev 
wrote:
Cool! Would you mind adding a D tag to the related articles, 
so I could add it to Planet D ( http://planet.dsource.org/ ) ?


http://nomad.so/tag/d/


Added, thanks! (Sorry if the tag was there already, I didn't see 
it in the category list and didn't realize there was a separate 
tag list.)


Re: I've started blog a little more about D.

2013-07-21 Thread Walter Bright

On 7/21/2013 8:43 AM, Gary Willoughby wrote:

Please don't let this degenerate into a grammar nazi poasting session, please
focus on the article content instead.


Well, if you do want to be a rebel on capitalization, you have to accept that 
your audience may get distracted from your message and just see the rebellion :-)


Re: I've started blog a little more about D.

2013-07-21 Thread Walter Bright

On 7/20/2013 2:19 PM, Gary Willoughby wrote:

I'm starting to blog a little more and in particular i've started writing more
about D. I'm using it a great deal at work now and all new stuff is to be
written in it. I'm loving every minute of this and really want to sing its 
praises.

I'll not lie though, i still need to learn a great deal to be at the level of
the engineers here but my sights are fully fixed on D and learning every aspect
of it. I've already made a small contribution to druntime and i hope to do more.

I've finally got my head around templates and i've really started to understand
their power and flexibility so i thought i would write an article as a one stop
shop for other developers who need to understand this stuff as quickly as
possible. I'd like for your verification that i have my facts straight and if
not i'll amend the text asap.

Be gentle: http://nomad.so/2013/07/templates-in-d-explained/


It's a nice blog! Thanks for doing this.

A stylistic issue:

These are useful if you want to pass an arbitrary amount of types or values to 
any kind of template.


It sounds better as:

These are useful for passing an arbitrary amount of types or values to any kind 
of template.


I've found in practice that nearly all uses of the word you in technical 
writing are superfluous and it flows better if they are removed.


Re: I've started blog a little more about D.

2013-07-21 Thread Tobias Pankrath
Stopped reading after two sentences because it is grey font on 
grey background.






Re: I've started blog a little more about D.

2013-07-21 Thread Gary Willoughby

On Sunday, 21 July 2013 at 19:45:07 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:

It's a nice blog! Thanks for doing this.

A stylistic issue:

These are useful if you want to pass an arbitrary amount of 
types or values to any kind of template.


It sounds better as:

These are useful for passing an arbitrary amount of types or 
values to any kind of template.


I've found in practice that nearly all uses of the word you 
in technical writing are superfluous and it flows better if 
they are removed.


Thanks, updated.


Re: I've started blog a little more about D.

2013-07-21 Thread Jonathan M Davis
On Sunday, July 21, 2013 12:40:17 Walter Bright wrote:
 On 7/21/2013 8:43 AM, Gary Willoughby wrote:
  Please don't let this degenerate into a grammar nazi poasting session,
  please focus on the article content instead.
 
 Well, if you do want to be a rebel on capitalization, you have to accept
 that your audience may get distracted from your message and just see the
 rebellion :-)

Or worse, just think that you have a lower intelligence level than you 
actually have.

- Jonathan M Davis


Re: I've started blog a little more about D.

2013-07-21 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
On 7/21/13, Jonathan M Davis jmdavisp...@gmx.com wrote:
 Or worse, just think that you have a lower intelligence level than you
 actually have.

It looks like everyone enjoys being an asshole on the internet these
days. Instead of focusing on content these people start min-wars about
capitalization. Give it a rest.


Re: I've started blog a little more about D.

2013-07-21 Thread Walter Bright

On 7/21/2013 2:17 PM, Gary Willoughby wrote:

Thanks, updated.


Welcs. With my own writing, I'll often write it all out, then grep for you and 
fix them all :-)


Re: I've started blog a little more about D.

2013-07-21 Thread Adam D. Ruppe

On Sunday, 21 July 2013 at 19:45:07 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
I've found in practice that nearly all uses of the word you 
in technical writing are superfluous and it flows better if 
they are removed.


This is why I prefer to use 'thou' when writing documentation. :-P


Re: I've started blog a little more about D.

2013-07-21 Thread Walter Bright

On 7/21/2013 2:21 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:

Or worse, just think that you have a lower intelligence level than you
actually have.


I read code, articles, books, etc., all day. There's a million times more 
content than I could hope to read. So I (and everyone else) needs some sort of 
filtering mechanism.


A common filter is layout, spelling, grammar, punctuation, capitalization, etc. 
The more problems there are with that, the more the reader is apt to conclude 
this is not worth my time to read and skip it. Disorganized, sloppy 
presentation is strongly correlated with disorganized, sloppy thoughts, and who 
wants to spend time reading it?


Presentation is incredibly important.

Successful authors like Andrei and Scott Meyers spend a great deal of effort 
worrying about fonts, colors, margins, etc. (a lot more than I do, which is one 
reason why they are better writers than I). These things matter. I bought a 
scifi ebook from Amazon a few months ago, and there was a misspelling on every 
single page. Every one would drop me out of the zone in being absorbed in the 
story, like hitting a pothole on the highway. I didn't buy the sequel because it 
was so irritating and because I figured the author didn't care about his readers 
(there were many Amazon reviews about these misspellings, and he still wasn't 
motivated to fix it).


My brother is in the tech recruiting business. He sees thousands of resumes a 
week. I asked him once how long he looked at a resume before giving it a thumbs 
up or [delete]. He said 2 to 3 seconds. Anything with sloppy formatting, 
misspellings, etc., goes directly to the trash. It's just not worth his time, as 
there are plenty more resumes where the author did care enough to get it right.



The same, of course, applies to code. If the code is formatted badly, or looks 
sloppy in any way, the odds go up dramatically that it is full of bugs. We all 
know this, why shouldn't it apply to writing?


And, of course, you can make a style out of lowercase and no punctuation, like 
ee cummings. There are always counterexamples! In a sense all of us here are 
rebels, as the conventional wisdom is to play it safe and use C/C++/Java/C#.


Re: I've started blog a little more about D.

2013-07-21 Thread Walter Bright

On 7/21/2013 3:24 PM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:

This is why I prefer to use 'thou' when writing documentation. :-P


I use thou when I'm issuing commandments to my subjects.


Re: I've started blog a little more about D.

2013-07-21 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu

On 7/21/13 3:38 PM, Walter Bright wrote:

On 7/21/2013 2:21 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:

Or worse, just think that you have a lower intelligence level than you
actually have.


I read code, articles, books, etc., all day. There's a million times
more content than I could hope to read. So I (and everyone else) needs
some sort of filtering mechanism.

A common filter is layout, spelling, grammar, punctuation,
capitalization, etc. The more problems there are with that, the more the
reader is apt to conclude this is not worth my time to read and skip
it. Disorganized, sloppy presentation is strongly correlated with
disorganized, sloppy thoughts, and who wants to spend time reading it?

Presentation is incredibly important.


Regarding that, this is one awesomely funny flamewar:

http://booksandpals.blogspot.com/2011/03/greek-seaman-jacqueline-howett.html

The flamewar became epic enough to get its own place on Wikipedia: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greek_Seaman



Andrei


Re: I've started blog a little more about D.

2013-07-21 Thread Walter Bright

On 7/20/2013 2:19 PM, Gary Willoughby wrote:

Be gentle: http://nomad.so/2013/07/templates-in-d-explained/


http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1irdjn/how_to_use_templates_in_d/


Re: I've started blog a little more about D.

2013-07-21 Thread Anthony Goins

On Saturday, 20 July 2013 at 21:19:03 UTC, Gary Willoughby wrote:
I'm starting to blog a little more and in particular i've 
started writing more about D. I'm using it a great deal at work 
now and all new stuff is to be written in it. I'm loving every 
minute of this and really want to sing its praises.


I'll not lie though, i still need to learn a great deal to be 
at the level of the engineers here but my sights are fully 
fixed on D and learning every aspect of it. I've already made a 
small contribution to druntime and i hope to do more.


I've finally got my head around templates and i've really 
started to understand their power and flexibility so i thought 
i would write an article as a one stop shop for other 
developers who need to understand this stuff as quickly as 
possible. I'd like for your verification that i have my facts 
straight and if not i'll amend the text asap.


Be gentle: http://nomad.so/2013/07/templates-in-d-explained/


Very nice thanks a heap.

Do not mind the Nay Sayers!  When a man needs to rebel he needs 
to rebel.
(But I must confess I'm a little spooked, thinking of Ayn Rand's 
Anthem.)