On Wednesday, 22 February 2017 at 07:48:42 UTC, Steve Biedermann
wrote:
On Tuesday, 21 February 2017 at 17:13:30 UTC, timmyjose wrote:
I would upvote you if I could! :-) ... that's not only an
interesting read, but also fodder for mini-projects of my own!
If you need more details about a
On Tuesday, 21 February 2017 at 17:13:30 UTC, timmyjose wrote:
I would upvote you if I could! :-) ... that's not only an
interesting read, but also fodder for mini-projects of my own!
If you need more details about a specific topic, just post it in
the forum and we will try to help :)
If
On Tuesday, 21 February 2017 at 19:55:37 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:
On 02/21/2017 09:13 AM, timmyjose wrote:
On Tuesday, 21 February 2017 at 14:17:39 UTC, Steve Biedermann
wrote:
On Saturday, 18 February 2017 at 20:15:55 UTC, timmyjose
wrote:
[...]
I'm using D for small tools for about a year
On 02/21/2017 09:13 AM, timmyjose wrote:
On Tuesday, 21 February 2017 at 14:17:39 UTC, Steve Biedermann wrote:
On Saturday, 18 February 2017 at 20:15:55 UTC, timmyjose wrote:
[...]
I'm using D for small tools for about a year now and I never had to
mess with GC. Most of the tools don't need
On Monday, 20 February 2017 at 17:36:32 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 03:00:05PM +, timmyjose via
Digitalmars-d-learn wrote: [...]
Just one question about the compilers though - I read on the
Wiki that there are three main compiler distros - dmd, ldc,
and gdc. I code
On Monday, 20 February 2017 at 17:43:22 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:
On 02/20/2017 07:00 AM, timmyjose wrote:
> slice can be spawned off into a brand new array upon
assigning data to
> it (in the book "Learning D", which I find very nice so far).
It's not assigning data to a slice, but adding
On Tuesday, 21 February 2017 at 14:17:39 UTC, Steve Biedermann
wrote:
On Saturday, 18 February 2017 at 20:15:55 UTC, timmyjose wrote:
[...]
I'm using D for small tools for about a year now and I never
had to mess with GC. Most of the tools don't need to work on
GBs of data and performance
On Saturday, 18 February 2017 at 20:15:55 UTC, timmyjose wrote:
2. I am more interested in learning D as a pure systems
programming language so that I can develop my own tools (not
looking to develop an OS, just some grep-scale tools to start
off with). In that regard, I have a few concerns
"H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d-learn" wrote:
On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 05:39:30PM +, ketmar via
Digitalmars-d-learn wrote:
foreach (auto n; arr)
oops. good job, auto!
Haha... in this case you want to actually just drop `auto` completely.
:-D
But yeah, there are some funny inconsistencies
On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 05:39:30PM +, ketmar via Digitalmars-d-learn wrote:
> Ali Çehreli wrote:
>
> > Correction: It's actually the 'auto attribute' in D with the
> > venerable responsibility of "The auto attribute is used when there
> > are no other attributes and type inference is
On 02/20/2017 07:00 AM, timmyjose wrote:
> slice can be spawned off into a brand new array upon assigning data to
> it (in the book "Learning D", which I find very nice so far).
It's not assigning data to a slice, but adding elements to it: It *may*
spawn off a new array. You can use .capacity
On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 03:00:05PM +, timmyjose via Digitalmars-d-learn
wrote:
[...]
> Just one question about the compilers though - I read on the Wiki that
> there are three main compiler distros - dmd, ldc, and gdc. I code
> primarily on a mac, and I have installed both dmd and ldc. A lot
Ali Çehreli wrote:
Correction: It's actually the 'auto attribute' in D with the
venerable responsibility of "The auto attribute is used when there
are no other attributes and type inference is desired." Good job, auto! :o)
foreach (auto n; arr)
oops. good job, auto!
On 02/20/2017 06:44 AM, timmyjose wrote:
> 3). Not so much a fan of "auto", but it does have its uses, of course.
For completeness, D's 'auto' does not have the same meaning as C++'s
auto. Wait... it actually has! :) But with the meaning of the 'auto'
keyword from the olden C days: automatic
On Monday, 20 February 2017 at 15:27:16 UTC, ag0aep6g wrote:
On 02/20/2017 03:44 PM, timmyjose wrote:
Things I don't like so much:
1). The std.range: iota function(?) is pretty nice, but the
naming seems
a bit bizarre, but quite nice to use.
Yeah, the name is weird. A little googling
On 02/20/2017 03:44 PM, timmyjose wrote:
Things I don't like so much:
1). The std.range: iota function(?) is pretty nice, but the naming seems
a bit bizarre, but quite nice to use.
Yeah, the name is weird. A little googling suggests it comes from C++
[1] which took it from APL.
2). The
On Monday, 20 February 2017 at 14:54:58 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Monday, 20 February 2017 at 14:44:41 UTC, timmyjose wrote:
My confusion is this - the declaration of the array is arr
[last-dimension]...[first-dimension], but the usage is
arr[first-dimension]...[last-dimension]. Am I
On Monday, 20 February 2017 at 14:52:43 UTC, ketmar wrote:
timmyjose wrote:
Suppose I have a simple 2 x 3 array like so:
import std.stdio;
import std.range: iota;
void main() {
// a 2 x 3 array
int [3][2] arr;
foreach (i; iota(0, 2)) {
foreach(j; iota(0, 3)) {
timmyjose wrote:
Very interesting reading about your experiences!
tnx. ;-)
one thing I've observed is that so far (very very early of course) D
appears to be a lot more intuitive than C++
yeah. i almost finished writing my own nntp/email client (actually, i'm
writing this post with it).
On Sunday, 19 February 2017 at 12:45:49 UTC, ketmar wrote:
timmyjose wrote:
a). So the GC is part of the runtime even if we specify @nogc
yes. GC is basically just a set of functions and some
supporting data structures, it is compiled in druntime. @nogc
doesn't turn it off, if says that
On Monday, 20 February 2017 at 14:44:41 UTC, timmyjose wrote:
My confusion is this - the declaration of the array is arr
[last-dimension]...[first-dimension], but the usage is
arr[first-dimension]...[last-dimension]. Am I missing something
here?
I've never understood how anyone could
timmyjose wrote:
Suppose I have a simple 2 x 3 array like so:
import std.stdio;
import std.range: iota;
void main() {
// a 2 x 3 array
int [3][2] arr;
foreach (i; iota(0, 2)) {
foreach(j; iota(0, 3)) {
arr[i][j] = i+j;
}
On Sunday, 19 February 2017 at 12:31:51 UTC, ag0aep6g wrote:
On 02/19/2017 12:51 PM, timmyjose wrote:
a). So the GC is part of the runtime even if we specify @nogc
Yup. @nogc is per function, not per program. Other functions
are allowed to use the GC.
b). Do we manually trigger the GC
On Sunday, 19 February 2017 at 03:17:08 UTC, Seb wrote:
On Saturday, 18 February 2017 at 21:09:20 UTC, ag0aep6g wrote:
5. Supposing I devote the time and energy and get up to speed
on D, would the core language team be welcoming if I feel
like I can contribute?
Absolutely. Anyone is welcome
On Sunday, 19 February 2017 at 12:40:10 UTC, Guillaume Piolat
wrote:
On Saturday, 18 February 2017 at 20:15:55 UTC, timmyjose wrote:
My rudimentary knowledge of the D ecosystem tells me that
there is a GC in D, but that can be turned off. Is this
correct? Also, some threads online mention that
On Sunday, 19 February 2017 at 15:22:50 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
On Saturday, 18 February 2017 at 20:15:55 UTC, timmyjose wrote:
4. I have heard good reports of D's metaprogramming
capabilities (ironically enough, primarily from a thread on
the Rust user group), and coming from a Common Lisp (and
On Saturday, 18 February 2017 at 20:15:55 UTC, timmyjose wrote:
4. I have heard good reports of D's metaprogramming
capabilities (ironically enough, primarily from a thread on the
Rust user group), and coming from a Common Lisp (and some
Racket) background, I am deeply interested in this
On 2017-02-19 13:45, ketmar wrote:
nogc doesn't turn it off, if
says that compiler must ensure that *your* *code* doesn't allocate,
Just to clarify, allocate using the GC. It's perfectly fine to allocate
using malloc in a @nogc function.
--
/Jacob Carlborg
timmyjose wrote:
I can't help here because I am using D for a long time, so I do not
remember how I have learned it.
Hahaha! Yes, thanks for the honesty. It does make sense because once
you've been working in some field for some time, it does make it
harder to explain how exactly you reached
timmyjose wrote:
a). So the GC is part of the runtime even if we specify @nogc
yes. GC is basically just a set of functions and some supporting data
structures, it is compiled in druntime. @nogc doesn't turn it off, if
says that compiler must ensure that *your* *code* doesn't allocate, at
On Saturday, 18 February 2017 at 20:15:55 UTC, timmyjose wrote:
My rudimentary knowledge of the D ecosystem tells me that there
is a GC in D, but that can be turned off. Is this correct?
Also, some threads online mention that if we do turn off GC,
some of the core std libraries may not fully
On 02/19/2017 12:51 PM, timmyjose wrote:
a). So the GC is part of the runtime even if we specify @nogc
Yup. @nogc is per function, not per program. Other functions are allowed
to use the GC.
b). Do we manually trigger the GC (like Java's System.gc(), even though
that's not guaranteed), or
On Sunday, 19 February 2017 at 11:51:02 UTC, timmyjose wrote:
On Saturday, 18 February 2017 at 21:58:15 UTC, ketmar wrote:
[...]
No, you're quite right indeed! First of all, those sound like
very interesting project! :-), and you're right about the GC
part. I have some experience in systems
On Saturday, 18 February 2017 at 21:58:15 UTC, ketmar wrote:
timmyjose wrote:
Thanks for the very comprehensive response! I think most of my
doubts are cleared now. You're right though that I'm probably
worrying too much about GC with my current use case.
i can tell you that i'm doing things
On Saturday, 18 February 2017 at 21:51:34 UTC, Daniel Kozak wrote:
Dne 18.2.2017 v 21:15 timmyjose via Digitalmars-d-learn
napsal(a):
[...]
Hi, welcome in D community
Thank you! I'm glad to be part of this excellent community!
[...]
Yes, by default D use GC. And yes there is a some
On Saturday, 18 February 2017 at 22:17:30 UTC, berni wrote:
I'm new here too (never heard of D before 2017).
Glad to meet someone else new here! :-)
c). The whole community seems infused with both the
Feminism/SJW
I didn't tried out Rust, but that would draw me away too.
(Incidentally it
On Saturday, 18 February 2017 at 21:09:20 UTC, ag0aep6g wrote:
5. Supposing I devote the time and energy and get up to speed
on D, would the core language team be welcoming if I feel like
I can contribute?
Absolutely. Anyone is welcome to contribute. D is very much a
volunteer effort. Also
I'm new here too (never heard of D before 2017).
c). The whole community seems infused with both the Feminism/SJW
I didn't tried out Rust, but that would draw me away too.
(Incidentally it was a comment on alternatives for Rust, that
pointed me to D.)
2. I am also curious as to what would
On Saturday, 18 February 2017 at 20:15:55 UTC, timmyjose wrote:
My rudimentary knowledge of the D ecosystem tells me that there
is a GC in D, but that can be turned off. Is this correct?
Technically yes; you will lose core functionality, though, if you
do.
I don't have the complete list at
timmyjose wrote:
Thanks for the very comprehensive response! I think most of my doubts
are cleared now. You're right though that I'm probably worrying too
much about GC with my current use case.
i can tell you that i'm doing things like, for example, ZX Spectrum
emulator and hobbyst
Dne 18.2.2017 v 21:15 timmyjose via Digitalmars-d-learn napsal(a):
Hello folks,
I am interested in learning D (just starting out, did a few of the
exercises on the D tour), and had some questions before I decide to
jump right in. My questions are genuinely motivated by my experiences
and
On Saturday, 18 February 2017 at 21:27:55 UTC, sarn wrote:
On Saturday, 18 February 2017 at 20:15:55 UTC, timmyjose wrote:
[...]
Hi :)
[...]
Okay, yes, it's easy to turn off or control the GC. It's also
easy to control memory allocation in general (unlike, say,
Java, where it's
On Saturday, 18 February 2017 at 21:09:20 UTC, ag0aep6g wrote:
Also, some threads online mention that if we do turn off GC,
some of the core std libraries may not fully work. Is this
presumption also correct?
Yes. Whenever a std function returns a new string or some such
it's going to be
On Saturday, 18 February 2017 at 20:15:55 UTC, timmyjose wrote:
Hello folks,
Hi :)
2. I am more interested in learning D as a pure systems
programming language so that I can develop my own tools (not
looking to develop an OS, just some grep-scale tools to start
off with). In that regard, I
Thanks for the very comprehensive response! I think most of my
doubts are cleared now. You're right though that I'm probably
worrying too much about GC with my current use case. Also thanks
for the links - they should also come in very handy indeed.
I managed to find some book recommendations
On Saturday, 18 February 2017 at 20:15:55 UTC, timmyjose wrote:
2. I am more interested in learning D as a pure systems
programming language so that I can develop my own tools (not
looking to develop an OS, just some grep-scale tools to start
off with). In that regard, I have a few concerns
Hello folks,
I am interested in learning D (just starting out, did a few of
the exercises on the D tour), and had some questions before I
decide to jump right in. My questions are genuinely motivated by
my experiences and expectations, so please forgive me if some
questions don't come across
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