Re: OT; Donald Knuth on beauty, efficiency, and the programmer as artist

2015-03-29 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Sunday, 29 March 2015 at 18:41:36 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote: The whole art/science vein of these Knuth quotes seems like a lot of BS, trying to situate computer programming in the long-standing and overblown science/humanities "divide." I should like to see an argument rather than mere asser

Re: OT; Donald Knuth on beauty, efficiency, and the programmer as artist

2015-03-29 Thread Laeeth Isharc via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Sunday, 29 March 2015 at 18:51:19 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Sunday, 29 March 2015 at 18:05:28 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote: I appreciate that many of us have better things to do. But I had been thinking about why I find D appealing, and how I would get this across to future partners, and had also b

Re: OT; Donald Knuth on beauty, efficiency, and the programmer as artist

2015-03-29 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Sunday, 29 March 2015 at 18:05:28 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote: I appreciate that many of us have better things to do. But I had been thinking about why I find D appealing, and how I would get this across to future partners, and had also been thinking about various forum comments equating measu

Re: OT; Donald Knuth on beauty, efficiency, and the programmer as artist

2015-03-29 Thread Laeeth Isharc via Digitalmars-d-learn
The whole art/science vein of these Knuth quotes seems like a lot of BS, trying to situate computer programming in the long-standing and overblown science/humanities "divide." I should like to see an argument rather than mere assertion. Steve Jobs is not an authority on this subject, but I fo

Re: OT; Donald Knuth on beauty, efficiency, and the programmer as artist

2015-03-29 Thread Laeeth Isharc via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Saturday, 28 March 2015 at 09:04:51 UTC, Messenger wrote: On Saturday, 28 March 2015 at 01:09:44 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote: On Friday, 27 March 2015 at 11:33:39 UTC, Kagamin wrote: Hmm... science exists only as long as we don't understand something, then it disappears and only knowledge remai

Re: OT; Donald Knuth on beauty, efficiency, and the programmer as artist

2015-03-29 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Friday, 27 March 2015 at 06:31:40 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote: In this talk I shall try to explain why I think "Art" is the appropriate word. I will discuss what it means for something to be an art, in contrast to being a science; I will try to examine whether arts are good things or bad things

Re: OT; Donald Knuth on beauty, efficiency, and the programmer as artist

2015-03-28 Thread Messenger via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Saturday, 28 March 2015 at 01:09:44 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote: On Friday, 27 March 2015 at 11:33:39 UTC, Kagamin wrote: Hmm... science exists only as long as we don't understand something, then it disappears and only knowledge remains. Looks like he talks about engineering, but calls it scien

Re: OT; Donald Knuth on beauty, efficiency, and the programmer as artist

2015-03-27 Thread Laeeth Isharc via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Friday, 27 March 2015 at 11:33:39 UTC, Kagamin wrote: Hmm... science exists only as long as we don't understand something, then it disappears and only knowledge remains. Looks like he talks about engineering, but calls it science. One dismisses Knuth discussing the topic for which he is ri

Re: OT; Donald Knuth on beauty, efficiency, and the programmer as artist

2015-03-27 Thread Kagamin via Digitalmars-d-learn
Hmm... science exists only as long as we don't understand something, then it disappears and only knowledge remains. Looks like he talks about engineering, but calls it science.

OT; Donald Knuth on beauty, efficiency, and the programmer as artist

2015-03-26 Thread Laeeth Isharc via Digitalmars-d-learn
An old essay that may yet be relevant today at a time when intellectual fashion has continued in the direction he was moved to address in his speech. "there is a way to make a big improvement: it is still a pleasure to do routine jobs if we have beautiful things to work with. For example, a p