Re: a way to specily floating-point numbers as bit patters

2017-06-09 Thread Nicholas Wilson via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Friday, 9 June 2017 at 16:56:46 UTC, ketmar wrote: Petar Kirov [ZombineDev] wrote: Do HexFloats (http://dlang.org/spec/lex#HexFloat) help? hm. i somehow completely missed "%a" format specifier! yeah, "-0x1.6ep-3" did the trick. tnx. i should do my homework *before* posting big rants

Re: a way to specily floating-point numbers as bit patters

2017-06-09 Thread Honey via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Friday, 9 June 2017 at 17:25:22 UTC, ketmar wrote: it is highly platform-dependent. and both bin->dec, and dec->bin conversion routines can contain errors, btw. so using decimal forms for exact bit-patterns is the last thing i want to do, as i know how fragile they are. Sure. Hex-format is

Re: a way to specily floating-point numbers as bit patters

2017-06-09 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d-learn
Honey wrote: On Friday, 9 June 2017 at 16:34:28 UTC, ketmar wrote: Try -0.1685f. it doesn't matter if i can find the decimal representation for the given bit pattern or not. the whole post is about removing the need to rely on lossy binary->decimal->binary conversions. Lossless turn-a

Re: a way to specily floating-point numbers as bit patters

2017-06-09 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d-learn
Basile B. wrote: On Friday, 9 June 2017 at 17:18:43 UTC, ketmar wrote: Basile B. wrote: enum binFloat = *cast(float*) &b; i was SO sure that this won't work in CTFE that i didn't even tried to do it. "it will fail anyway, there is no reason in trying!" ;-) You can do the arithmetic

Re: a way to specily floating-point numbers as bit patters

2017-06-09 Thread Basile B. via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Friday, 9 June 2017 at 17:18:43 UTC, ketmar wrote: Basile B. wrote: enum binFloat = *cast(float*) &b; i was SO sure that this won't work in CTFE that i didn't even tried to do it. "it will fail anyway, there is no reason in trying!" ;-) You can do the arithmetic as well. I don't k

Re: a way to specily floating-point numbers as bit patters

2017-06-09 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d-learn
Basile B. wrote: enum binFloat = *cast(float*) &b; i was SO sure that this won't work in CTFE that i didn't even tried to do it. "it will fail anyway, there is no reason in trying!" ;-)

Re: a way to specily floating-point numbers as bit patters

2017-06-09 Thread Basile B. via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Friday, 9 June 2017 at 16:42:31 UTC, ketmar wrote: Basile B. wrote: Yes, easy to do, a template alĂ  octal or hexString. can you show it, please? remember, CTFE-able! Sure, here's a dirty draft: template binFloat(string sign, string exp, string mant) { enum s = sign == "+" ? "0" : "1"

Re: a way to specily floating-point numbers as bit patters

2017-06-09 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d-learn
Petar Kirov [ZombineDev] wrote: Do HexFloats (http://dlang.org/spec/lex#HexFloat) help? hm. i somehow completely missed "%a" format specifier! yeah, "-0x1.6ep-3" did the trick. tnx. i should do my homework *before* posting big rants, lol.

Re: a way to specily floating-point numbers as bit patters

2017-06-09 Thread Honey via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Friday, 9 June 2017 at 16:41:01 UTC, Honey wrote: Lossless turn-around is guaranteed if you are using sufficiently many digits. In case of IEEE-754 single precision it's 8 significant decimal digits. s/turn-around/recovery/g s/8/9/g :-P

Re: a way to specily floating-point numbers as bit patters

2017-06-09 Thread via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Friday, 9 June 2017 at 16:07:36 UTC, ketmar wrote: let's say that i have precomputed some `float`-typed tables, and now i want to use 'em in my code. for example, a table for Lagrange series. the table itself is like 10 numbers, but the code calculating it rather big, and it depends of archi

Re: a way to specily floating-point numbers as bit patters

2017-06-09 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d-learn
Basile B. wrote: ps. "-0.17 0xBE2AAAC1". it's not the same! (and yes, it matters). -0.17f is not representable as a 32 bit float. The actuall value that's stored is -0.169994592259765625, hence the difference. See https://www.h-schmidt.net/FloatConverter/IEEE754.html and

Re: a way to specily floating-point numbers as bit patters

2017-06-09 Thread Honey via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Friday, 9 June 2017 at 16:34:28 UTC, ketmar wrote: Try -0.1685f. it doesn't matter if i can find the decimal representation for the given bit pattern or not. the whole post is about removing the need to rely on lossy binary->decimal->binary conversions. Lossless turn-around is guaran

Re: a way to specily floating-point numbers as bit patters

2017-06-09 Thread Basile B. via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Friday, 9 June 2017 at 16:07:36 UTC, ketmar wrote: let's say that i have precomputed some `float`-typed tables, and now i want to use 'em in my code. for example, a table for Lagrange series. the table itself is like 10 numbers, but the code calculating it rather big, and it depends of archi

Re: a way to specily floating-point numbers as bit patters

2017-06-09 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d-learn
Honey wrote: On Friday, 9 June 2017 at 16:07:36 UTC, ketmar wrote: one of my calculated values is `-0.17`, which has bit-pattern of 0xBE2AAAB7. now, let's say i want to use this number in my code: float v = -0.17f; writefln("%f 0x%08X", v, *cast(uint*)&v); ps. "-0

Re: a way to specily floating-point numbers as bit patters

2017-06-09 Thread Honey via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Friday, 9 June 2017 at 16:07:36 UTC, ketmar wrote: one of my calculated values is `-0.17`, which has bit-pattern of 0xBE2AAAB7. now, let's say i want to use this number in my code: float v = -0.17f; writefln("%f 0x%08X", v, *cast(uint*)&v); ps. "-0.17 0xBE2AA

a way to specily floating-point numbers as bit patters

2017-06-09 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d-learn
let's say that i have precomputed some `float`-typed tables, and now i want to use 'em in my code. for example, a table for Lagrange series. the table itself is like 10 numbers, but the code calculating it rather big, and it depends of architecture (so it can yield different results on different