Re: D Newbie Trying to Use D with Major C Libraries
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Mengu via Digitalmars-d-learn digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com wrote: On Friday, 16 May 2014 at 18:19:45 UTC, Alex Herrmann wrote: ... integrates okay with dub too. There is also an emacs major mode for d (d-mode) which gives basic highlighting and indentation too. I use both all of these tools on my Arch linux set up and they work very well ... I am very happy with d-mode in emacs. Thanks for the reports, Alex and Mengu. I have installed the d-mode for xemacs but I don't have it working properly yet. I'll probably have to ask for help with that before too long. Best, -Tom
Re: D Newbie Trying to Use D with Major C Libraries
On 15/05/14 23:27, Tom Browder via Digitalmars-d-learn wrote: I am a volunteer developer with the well-known 3D CAD FOSS project BRL-CAD: http://brlcad.org I have wanted to use D for a long time but I hadn't taken the plunge. Yesterday I advertised to the BRL-CAD community my new project to attempt to create D bindings for BRL-CAD's C libraries, and I created a branch for the project. I have been looking for specific information on creating D bindings from C headers for which there seems to be sufficient information available, but I would appreciate recommendations as to the best method. You can use DStep [1] to automatically generate bindings. It requires some manual tweaking afterwards but it will give you a good start. [1] https://github.com/jacob-carlborg/dstep -- /Jacob Carlborg
Re: D Newbie Trying to Use D with Major C Libraries
On Friday, 16 May 2014 at 06:17:47 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 15/05/14 23:27, Tom Browder via Digitalmars-d-learn wrote: I am a volunteer developer with the well-known 3D CAD FOSS project BRL-CAD: http://brlcad.org I have wanted to use D for a long time but I hadn't taken the plunge. Yesterday I advertised to the BRL-CAD community my new project to attempt to create D bindings for BRL-CAD's C libraries, and I created a branch for the project. I have been looking for specific information on creating D bindings from C headers for which there seems to be sufficient information available, but I would appreciate recommendations as to the best method. You can use DStep [1] to automatically generate bindings. It requires some manual tweaking afterwards but it will give you a good start. [1] https://github.com/jacob-carlborg/dstep Any plans to get any preprocessor stuff working? Presumably libclang can make this feasible.
Re: D Newbie Trying to Use D with Major C Libraries
John Colvin: Any plans to get any preprocessor stuff working? Do you mean in D? Bye, bearophile
Re: D Newbie Trying to Use D with Major C Libraries
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 9:56 PM, FrankLike via Digitalmars-d-learn digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com wrote: ... And use VisualD. Thanks for the suggestion, Frank, but I don't do windows. Best, -Tom
Re: D Newbie Trying to Use D with Major C Libraries
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 1:17 AM, Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d-learn digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com wrote: ... On 15/05/14 23:27, Tom Browder via Digitalmars-d-learn wrote: ... I have been looking for specific information on creating D bindings from C headers for which there seems to be sufficient information available, but I would appreciate recommendations as to the best method. ... You can use DStep [1] to automatically generate bindings. It requires some manual tweaking afterwards but it will give you a good start. [1] https://github.com/jacob-carlborg/dstep Thanks, Jacob. I have seen that, but I've been reluctant to start using that until I get more familiar with D. But I think that is the way to go. Best regards, -Tom
Re: D Newbie Trying to Use D with Major C Libraries
On Friday, 16 May 2014 at 09:44:11 UTC, bearophile wrote: John Colvin: Any plans to get any preprocessor stuff working? Do you mean in D? Bye, bearophile i think he means in dstep.
Re: D Newbie Trying to Use D with Major C Libraries
On 16/05/14 11:19, John Colvin wrote: Any plans to get any preprocessor stuff working? Presumably libclang can make this feasible. Yes, eventually. Although, currently libclang doesn't really provide an API for the preprocessor, so that needs to be added. -- /Jacob Carlborg
Re: D Newbie Trying to Use D with Major C Libraries
On Thursday, 15 May 2014 at 22:25:47 UTC, Tom Browder via Digitalmars-d-learn wrote: I am a volunteer developer with the well-known 3D CAD FOSS project BRL-CAD: http://brlcad.org I have wanted to use D for a long time but I hadn't taken the plunge. Yesterday I advertised to the BRL-CAD community my new project to attempt to create D bindings for BRL-CAD's C libraries, and I created a branch for the project. I have been looking for specific information on creating D bindings from C headers for which there seems to be sufficient information available, but I would appreciate recommendations as to the best method. I have successfully built my first pure D program but now need to test the feasibility of my project. What I have not seen yet is the exact way to build a D program which uses D bindings and its matching C library. I have just created a Cookbook page on the D Wiki where I show my first attempt for a real GNU Makefile as an example for the project. The page link is here: http://wiki.dlang.org/Using_C_libraries_for_a_D_program I would appreciate it if an experienced D user would correct that recipe so it should compile the desired binary source correctly (assuming no errors in the input files). Thanks for any help. Best regards, -Tom For a start use dub to build D projects, it's becoming the de-facto build tool. http://code.dlang.org/ Then take a look at one of my projects in which i've ported C headers to D. https://github.com/nomad-software/tcltk In that repo i've included all the C headers as well as their D counterparts for reference. Converting headers is not straightforward when you first start but once you understand the rules it gets easier. Here's some helpful links: http://dlang.org/interfaceToC.html http://www.gamedev.net/page/resources/_/technical/game-programming/binding-d-to-c-r3122 http://forum.dlang.org/thread/qvjjzoxoufxnxzoky...@forum.dlang.org http://forum.dlang.org/thread/wmzqweodmbpkfjbve...@forum.dlang.org http://forum.dlang.org/thread/fzqloumcqbdvnccva...@forum.dlang.org Once the D file is created and imported into your program you just need to link the necessary library and you're good to go. See the `package.json` file in the above repository for how i do it for Posix and Windows. Windows DLL's are supplied in the `dist` directory.
Re: D Newbie Trying to Use D with Major C Libraries
On Friday, 16 May 2014 at 10:10:17 UTC, Tom Browder via Digitalmars-d-learn wrote: Thanks for the suggestion, Frank, but I don't do windows. Monodevelop (open source C# dev platform) has a plugin for D by Alexander Bothe called Mono-D which is absolutely fantastic and integrates okay with dub too. There is also an emacs major mode for d (d-mode) which gives basic highlighting and indentation too. I use both all of these tools on my Arch linux set up and they work very well, and Mono-D has some debugging support too. Best of luck spreading D Tom! You're doing the lord's work son. Alex
Re: D Newbie Trying to Use D with Major C Libraries
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Alex Herrmann via Digitalmars-d-learn digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com wrote: On Friday, 16 May 2014 at 10:10:17 UTC, Tom Browder via ... Thanks for the suggestion, Frank, but I don't do windows. ... Monodevelop (open source C# dev platform) has a plugin for D by ... Thanks for the suggestions, Alex, ... Best of luck spreading D Tom! You're doing the lord's work son. I don't know if it's the Lord's work or not, but I do think D is the better C++ for lots of us (with profuse thanks to Bjarne Stroustrup for C++). Best regards, -Tom
Re: D Newbie Trying to Use D with Major C Libraries
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Gary Willoughby via Digitalmars-d-learn digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com wrote: On Thursday, 15 May 2014 at 22:25:47 UTC, Tom Browder via .. What I have not seen yet is the exact way to build a D program which uses D bindings and its matching C library. I have just created a ... For a start use dub to build D projects, it's becoming the de-facto build tool. ... Thanks for all the help, Gary. Wow, you have been very busy--quite a record to strive for! Best regards, -Tom
Re: D Newbie Trying to Use D with Major C Libraries
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Gary Willoughby via Digitalmars-d-learn digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com wrote: ... Then take a look at one of my projects in which i've ported C headers to D. https://github.com/nomad-software/tcltk I notice your binding source files have a .d suffix. Is that the preferred convention? I'm asking because I saw .di used on several D Wiki pages. Best, -Tom
Re: D Newbie Trying to Use D with Major C Libraries
On Friday, 16 May 2014 at 19:05:25 UTC, Tom Browder via Digitalmars-d-learn wrote: On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Gary Willoughby via Digitalmars-d-learn digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com wrote: ... Then take a look at one of my projects in which i've ported C headers to D. https://github.com/nomad-software/tcltk I notice your binding source files have a .d suffix. Is that the preferred convention? I'm asking because I saw .di used on several D Wiki pages. Best, -Tom Using .di is more idiomatic as those are supposed to denote declaration-only interface files (with no implementation). In practice it makes almost no difference though so many people use plain .d by habit.
Re: D Newbie Trying to Use D with Major C Libraries
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Gary Willoughby via Digitalmars-d-learn digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com wrote: On Friday, 16 May 2014 at 19:17:05 UTC, Dicebot wrote: Using .di is more idiomatic as those are supposed to denote declaration-only interface files (with no implementation). In practice it makes almost no difference though so many people use plain .d by habit. ... That's right. I always use .d files when porting C headers because i just see them as regular D code. I like to classify .di files as D 'headers' generated from pure D libraries (using the -H compiler switch). That's just my opinion though and to be honest i don't think it matters. :) Okay, Dicebot and Gary, that makes good sense I think, thanks. So I should use the .d for the binding source files since there will almost certainly be implementation code in them. Best, -Tom
Re: D Newbie Trying to Use D with Major C Libraries
On Friday, 16 May 2014 at 20:28:31 UTC, Tom Browder via Digitalmars-d-learn wrote: On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Gary Willoughby via Digitalmars-d-learn digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com wrote: On Friday, 16 May 2014 at 19:17:05 UTC, Dicebot wrote: Using .di is more idiomatic as those are supposed to denote declaration-only interface files (with no implementation). In practice it makes almost no difference though so many people use plain .d by habit. ... That's right. I always use .d files when porting C headers because i just see them as regular D code. I like to classify .di files as D 'headers' generated from pure D libraries (using the -H compiler switch). That's just my opinion though and to be honest i don't think it matters. :) Okay, Dicebot and Gary, that makes good sense I think, thanks. So I should use the .d for the binding source files since there will almost certainly be implementation code in them. Best, -Tom Yeah , I do and Deimos does too: https://github.com/D-Programming-Deimos
Re: D Newbie Trying to Use D with Major C Libraries
On Thursday, 15 May 2014 at 22:25:47 UTC, Tom Browder via
Digitalmars-d-learn wrote:
I am a volunteer developer with the well-known 3D CAD FOSS
project BRL-CAD:
http://brlcad.org
I have wanted to use D for a long time but I hadn't taken the
plunge.
Yesterday I advertised to the BRL-CAD community my new project
to
attempt to create D bindings for BRL-CAD's C libraries, and I
created
a branch for the project.
I have been looking for specific information on creating D
bindings
from C headers for which there seems to be sufficient
information
available, but I would appreciate recommendations as to the best
method. I have successfully built my first pure D program but
now
need to test the feasibility of my project.
What I have not seen yet is the exact way to build a D program
which
uses D bindings and its matching C library. I have just
created a
Cookbook page on the D Wiki where I show my first attempt for a
real
GNU Makefile as an example for the project. The page link is
here:
http://wiki.dlang.org/Using_C_libraries_for_a_D_program
I would appreciate it if an experienced D user would correct
that
recipe so it should compile the desired binary source correctly
(assuming no errors in the input files).
Thanks for any help.
Best regards,
-Tom
Hi Tom,
Sadly, I lack the expertise to give you much advice. I did read
through your Wiki posting though. One thing that came to mind
was you used GMake. Perhaps you should consider using DUB. For
example here is the DUB config file for one of my library
bindings (in my case I used a static library though):
{
name: shplib,
description: D bindings for Shapelib. Shapefile
reader.,
homepage:
https://github.com/craig-dillabaugh/shplib.d;,
homepage: http://shapelib.maptools.org/;,
importPaths:[.],
targetType: sourceLibrary,
authors: [
Craig Dillabaugh
],
sourcePaths: [./source],
libs-posix : [libshp]
}
A little nicer that GMake, more the D way, and cross platform
... I think.
Not sure exactly how you change that for linking to a .so lib.
Cheers,
Craig
Re: D Newbie Trying to Use D with Major C Libraries
On Friday, 16 May 2014 at 01:16:46 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:
On Thursday, 15 May 2014 at 22:25:47 UTC, Tom Browder via
Digitalmars-d-learn wrote:
I am a volunteer developer with the well-known 3D CAD FOSS
project BRL-CAD:
http://brlcad.org
I have wanted to use D for a long time but I hadn't taken the
plunge.
Yesterday I advertised to the BRL-CAD community my new project
to
attempt to create D bindings for BRL-CAD's C libraries, and I
created
a branch for the project.
I have been looking for specific information on creating D
bindings
from C headers for which there seems to be sufficient
information
available, but I would appreciate recommendations as to the
best
method. I have successfully built my first pure D program but
now
need to test the feasibility of my project.
What I have not seen yet is the exact way to build a D program
which
uses D bindings and its matching C library. I have just
created a
Cookbook page on the D Wiki where I show my first attempt for
a real
GNU Makefile as an example for the project. The page link is
here:
http://wiki.dlang.org/Using_C_libraries_for_a_D_program
I would appreciate it if an experienced D user would correct
that
recipe so it should compile the desired binary source correctly
(assuming no errors in the input files).
Thanks for any help.
Best regards,
-Tom
Hi Tom,
Sadly, I lack the expertise to give you much advice. I did
read through your Wiki posting though. One thing that came to
mind was you used GMake. Perhaps you should consider using
DUB. For example here is the DUB config file for one of my
library bindings (in my case I used a static library though):
{
name: shplib,
description: D bindings for Shapelib. Shapefile
reader.,
homepage:
https://github.com/craig-dillabaugh/shplib.d;,
homepage: http://shapelib.maptools.org/;,
importPaths:[.],
targetType: sourceLibrary,
authors: [
Craig Dillabaugh
],
sourcePaths: [./source],
libs-posix : [libshp]
}
A little nicer that GMake, more the D way, and cross platform
... I think.
Not sure exactly how you change that for linking to a .so lib.
Cheers,
Craig
Some info on DUB can be found at:
http://code.dlang.org/
Re: D Newbie Trying to Use D with Major C Libraries
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 8:24 PM, Craig Dillabaugh via Digitalmars-d-learn digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com wrote: On Friday, 16 May 2014 at 01:16:46 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh wrote: On Thursday, 15 May 2014 at 22:25:47 UTC, Tom Browder via Digitalmars-d-learn wrote: ... What I have not seen yet is the exact way to build a D program which uses D bindings and its matching C library. I have just created a Cookbook page on the D Wiki where I show my first attempt for a real GNU Makefile as an example for the project. The page link is here: http://wiki.dlang.org/Using_C_libraries_for_a_D_program I would appreciate it if an experienced D user would correct that recipe so it should compile the desired binary source correctly (assuming no errors in the input files). ... Sadly, I lack the expertise to give you much advice. I did read through your Wiki posting though. One thing that came to mind was you used GMake. Perhaps you should consider using DUB. For example here is the DUB config file for one of my library bindings (in my case I used a static library though): ... Thanks, Craig, I'll look into dub. Best regards, -Tom
Re: D Newbie Trying to Use D with Major C Libraries
read through your Wiki posting though. One thing that came to mind was you used GMake. Perhaps you should consider using DUB. For example here is the DUB config file for one of my library bindings (in my case I used a static library though): ... Thanks, Craig, I'll look into dub. Best regards, -Tom And use VisualD. Frank
