Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2019-01-21 Thread bauss via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Monday, 21 January 2019 at 11:41:36 UTC, Simen Kjærås wrote: On Monday, 21 January 2019 at 11:37:52 UTC, sneha wrote: [snip] I agree with you. Holy thread necromancy, batman! -- Simen He's probably using IE so he just got the latest forum updates there.

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2019-01-21 Thread Simen Kjærås via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Monday, 21 January 2019 at 11:37:52 UTC, sneha wrote: [snip] I agree with you. Holy thread necromancy, batman! -- Simen

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2019-01-21 Thread sneha via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 at 10:42:50 UTC, lkfsdg wrote: On Tuesday, 26 July 2016 at 15:11:00 UTC, llaine wrote: Hi guys, I'm using D since a few month now and I was wondering why people don't jump onto it that much and why it isn't the "big thing" already. Everybody is into javascript

[OT] Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-08-01 Thread LaTeigne via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Sunday, 31 July 2016 at 18:15:49 UTC, Gorge Jingale wrote: On Sunday, 31 July 2016 at 10:11:46 UTC, LaTeigne wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:24:55 UTC, ketmar wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:18:08 UTC, LaTeigne wrote: it you think that you know the things better than somebody

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-31 Thread Gorge Jingale via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Sunday, 31 July 2016 at 10:11:46 UTC, LaTeigne wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:24:55 UTC, ketmar wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:18:08 UTC, LaTeigne wrote: it you think that you know the things better than somebody who actually *lived* there in those times... well, keep

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-31 Thread Jon Degenhardt via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 22:52:23 UTC, bachmeier wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:30:55 UTC, LaTeigne wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:24:55 UTC, ketmar wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:18:08 UTC, LaTeigne wrote: it you think that you know the things better than somebody

Re: [OT] Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-31 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Sunday, 31 July 2016 at 04:51:13 UTC, bachmeier wrote: But this would be our own subreddit. I don't disagree if you're talking about r/programming. Oh, the people are terrible, but the platform is worse - I don't like the tree view nor the voting system. It makes it really hard to follow

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-31 Thread LaTeigne via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:24:55 UTC, ketmar wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:18:08 UTC, LaTeigne wrote: it you think that you know the things better than somebody who actually *lived* there in those times... well, keep thinking that. also, don't forget to teach physics to

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-30 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Sunday, 31 July 2016 at 04:32:10 UTC, bachmeier wrote: I wasn't directing my comment at you specifically. I was talking about the direction the thread took, what do you prefer: to have a completely false information, or corrected information for the price of one or two troll-like posts? i

Re: [OT] Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-30 Thread bachmeier via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Sunday, 31 July 2016 at 00:04:41 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: I have a strong dislike of reddit (and thus rarely post there), it is really hard to use and the voting system is petty. But this would be our own subreddit. I don't disagree if you're talking about r/programming.

Re: [OT] Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-30 Thread bachmeier via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 23:43:33 UTC, Seb wrote: In any case I was trying to say that we could use reddit more actively, we have our own subreddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/d_language), but it's not used for discussions. So maybe killing the bot & actively encouraging a discussion to

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-30 Thread bachmeier via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 22:58:31 UTC, LaTeigne wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 22:52:23 UTC, bachmeier wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:30:55 UTC, LaTeigne wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:24:55 UTC, ketmar wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:18:08 UTC, LaTeigne wrote:

Re: [OT] Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-30 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 23:11:23 UTC, Seb wrote: I would love to see the forum evolve into something similar to reddit I have a strong dislike of reddit (and thus rarely post there), it is really hard to use and the voting system is petty. The D ng isn't perfect, but it is basically

Re: [OT] Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-30 Thread Seb via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 23:33:27 UTC, LaTeigne wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 23:11:23 UTC, Seb wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 22:52:23 UTC, bachmeier wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:30:55 UTC, LaTeigne wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:24:55 UTC, ketmar wrote: On

Re: [OT] Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-30 Thread LaTeigne via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 23:11:23 UTC, Seb wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 22:52:23 UTC, bachmeier wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:30:55 UTC, LaTeigne wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:24:55 UTC, ketmar wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:18:08 UTC, LaTeigne wrote: it

[OT] Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-30 Thread Seb via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 22:52:23 UTC, bachmeier wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:30:55 UTC, LaTeigne wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:24:55 UTC, ketmar wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:18:08 UTC, LaTeigne wrote: it you think that you know the things better than somebody

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-30 Thread LaTeigne via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 22:52:23 UTC, bachmeier wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:30:55 UTC, LaTeigne wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:24:55 UTC, ketmar wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:18:08 UTC, LaTeigne wrote: it you think that you know the things better than somebody

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-30 Thread bachmeier via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:30:55 UTC, LaTeigne wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:24:55 UTC, ketmar wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:18:08 UTC, LaTeigne wrote: it you think that you know the things better than somebody who actually *lived* there in those times... well, keep

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-30 Thread LaTeigne via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:24:55 UTC, ketmar wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:18:08 UTC, LaTeigne wrote: it you think that you know the things better than somebody who actually *lived* there in those times... well, keep thinking that. also, don't forget to teach physics to

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-30 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:18:08 UTC, LaTeigne wrote: it you think that you know the things better than somebody who actually *lived* there in those times... well, keep thinking that. also, don't forget to teach physics to physicians, medicine to medics, and so on. i'm pretty sure that

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-30 Thread LaTeigne via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 11:46:11 UTC, ketmar wrote: On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 11:31:26 UTC, LaTeigne wrote: For example in the 2000's Delphi was incredibly popular in Russia because the holder at this time (so Borland unless it was already Code Gear) sold literally **hundreds** of

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-30 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 11:31:26 UTC, LaTeigne wrote: For example in the 2000's Delphi was incredibly popular in Russia because the holder at this time (so Borland unless it was already Code Gear) sold literally **hundreds** of licenses to the russian education department. actually, no.

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-30 Thread LaTeigne via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 01:32:50 UTC, Karabuta wrote: On Tuesday, 26 July 2016 at 15:11:00 UTC, llaine wrote: Hi guys, I'm using D since a few month now and I was wondering why people don't jump onto it that much and why it isn't the "big thing" already. Everybody is into javascript

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-29 Thread Karabuta via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Tuesday, 26 July 2016 at 15:11:00 UTC, llaine wrote: Hi guys, I'm using D since a few month now and I was wondering why people don't jump onto it that much and why it isn't the "big thing" already. Everybody is into javascript nowadays, but IMO even for doing web I found Vibe.d more

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-29 Thread llaine via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Thursday, 28 July 2016 at 15:16:20 UTC, Gorge Jingale wrote: On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 at 10:41:54 UTC, ketmar wrote: On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 at 10:39:52 UTC, NX wrote: Lack of production quality tools like? no, "refactoring" and other crap is not "production quality tools", they are

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-28 Thread Gorge Jingale via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 at 10:41:54 UTC, ketmar wrote: On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 at 10:39:52 UTC, NX wrote: Lack of production quality tools like? no, "refactoring" and other crap is not "production quality tools", they are only useful to pretend that you are doing something useful, so

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-28 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Thursday, 28 July 2016 at 11:41:49 UTC, burjui wrote: Why do you use D then? it is fun. Oh, D is more convenient and robust? no, it is more fun. "Refactoring" is more convenient and robust than sed -i 's/.../.../g'. ues, using specialised tools to do useless work can be counted as

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-28 Thread burjui via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 at 10:41:54 UTC, ketmar wrote: On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 at 10:39:52 UTC, NX wrote: Lack of production quality tools like? no, "refactoring" and other crap is not "production quality tools", they are only useful to pretend that you are doing something useful, so

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-27 Thread Guillaume Piolat via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Tuesday, 26 July 2016 at 15:11:00 UTC, llaine wrote: why it isn't the "big thing" already. 1. Less easy to explain A big selling point is that D is good in all directions, and stupidly easy to apply in many situations. That is a lot harder to explain that a simple value proposal like

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-27 Thread Meta via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 at 16:26:47 UTC, Seb wrote: My personal opinion is that the two biggest problems are 1) it has no unique selling point (USP): I don't necessarily agree. I think that D's USPs as seen externally are simplified and powerful metaprogramming abilities, and being a

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-27 Thread dewitt via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 at 16:26:47 UTC, Seb wrote: On Tuesday, 26 July 2016 at 15:11:00 UTC, llaine wrote: Hi guys, I'm using D since a few month now and I was wondering why people don't jump onto it that much and why it isn't the "big thing" already. Everybody is into javascript

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-27 Thread Seb via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Tuesday, 26 July 2016 at 15:11:00 UTC, llaine wrote: Hi guys, I'm using D since a few month now and I was wondering why people don't jump onto it that much and why it isn't the "big thing" already. Everybody is into javascript nowadays, but IMO even for doing web I found Vibe.d more

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-27 Thread chmike via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 at 10:17:57 UTC, NX wrote: On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 at 09:28:49 UTC, chmike wrote: 4. Web server && IO performance (see: https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks or https://github.com/nanoant/WebFrameworkBenchmark). Please, these are terribly outdated benchmarks.

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-27 Thread lkfsdg via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 at 11:11:56 UTC, llaine wrote: On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 at 10:42:50 UTC, lkfsdg wrote: Also I predict that the more it'll get popular the less it will attract hobbyist. I did't realized at the beginning (I've discovered D in 2012 then started to learn more

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-27 Thread bachmeier via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Tuesday, 26 July 2016 at 15:11:00 UTC, llaine wrote: Hi guys, I'm using D since a few month now and I was wondering why people don't jump onto it that much and why it isn't the "big thing" already. Because languages don't become big things. Good solutions to particular problems become

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-27 Thread llaine via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 at 10:42:50 UTC, lkfsdg wrote: Also I predict that the more it'll get popular the less it will attract hobbyist. I did't realized at the beginning (I've discovered D in 2012 then started to learn more seriously in 2014) but Alexandrescu clairly aims at a

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-27 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 at 10:39:52 UTC, NX wrote: Lack of production quality tools like? no, "refactoring" and other crap is not "production quality tools", they are only useful to pretend that you are doing something useful, so you will look busy for your boss.

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-27 Thread lkfsdg via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Tuesday, 26 July 2016 at 15:11:00 UTC, llaine wrote: Hi guys, I'm using D since a few month now and I was wondering why people don't jump onto it that much and why it isn't the "big thing" already. Everybody is into javascript nowadays, but IMO even for doing web I found Vibe.d more

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-27 Thread NX via Digitalmars-d-learn
Lack of production quality tools Lack of good marketing Lack of man power & corporate support Lack of idiomatic D libraries These are pretty much the core of all other negative consequences. Ex: GDC is few versions behind DMD because lack of man power. If only we could break the vicious

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-27 Thread NX via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 at 09:28:49 UTC, chmike wrote: The reason I'm switching to Go is because 3. GC performance (no stop the world hiccups) IIRC, there is a concurrent GC implementation used by sociomantic but it's linux only. (It uses fork() sys call) 4. Web server && IO performance

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-27 Thread chmike via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Tuesday, 26 July 2016 at 15:11:00 UTC, llaine wrote: Hi guys, I'm using D since a few month now and I was wondering why people don't jump onto it that much and why it isn't the "big thing" already. Everybody is into javascript nowadays, but IMO even for doing web I found Vibe.d more

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-27 Thread ixid via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 at 00:52:30 UTC, Gorge Jingale wrote: So, you can see D as a sort of dried up waste land desert with a few nice palm trees growing here and there and a few scorpions. C++, say, is a very lush forest with many tree dwelling monkeys. Which environment would you rather

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-27 Thread llaine via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 at 00:52:30 UTC, Gorge Jingale wrote: I think it is because D has some fundamental problems. It is a risk to use software that is not proven to be safe, effective, and easy to use. The fact there are so many bugs(and many are big blockes) in D says something about

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-26 Thread Gorge Jingale via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Tuesday, 26 July 2016 at 15:11:00 UTC, llaine wrote: Hi guys, I'm using D since a few month now and I was wondering why people don't jump onto it that much and why it isn't the "big thing" already. Everybody is into javascript nowadays, but IMO even for doing web I found Vibe.d more

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-26 Thread tsbockman via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Tuesday, 26 July 2016 at 15:11:00 UTC, llaine wrote: I'm using D since a few month now and I was wondering why people don't jump onto it that much and why it isn't the "big thing" already. D2 is under active development. Bugs get fixed, bottlenecks get optimized, and features get added or

Re: Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-26 Thread phant0m via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Tuesday, 26 July 2016 at 15:11:00 UTC, llaine wrote: Hi guys, I'm using D since a few month now and I was wondering why people don't jump onto it that much and why it isn't the "big thing" already. Everybody is into javascript nowadays, but IMO even for doing web I found Vibe.d more

Why D isn't the next "big thing" already

2016-07-26 Thread llaine via Digitalmars-d-learn
Hi guys, I'm using D since a few month now and I was wondering why people don't jump onto it that much and why it isn't the "big thing" already. Everybody is into javascript nowadays, but IMO even for doing web I found Vibe.d more interesting and efficient than node.js for example. I