Re: betterC and noboundscheck

2017-11-24 Thread Michael V. Franklin via Digitalmars-d-learn

On Wednesday, 22 November 2017 at 15:10:40 UTC, Oleg B wrote:


import core.stdc.stdio;
import std.algorithm : min;

extern (C) void main()
{
char[256] buf;
buf[] = '\0';

auto str = "hello world";
auto ln = min(buf.length, str.length);
buf[0..ln] = str[0..ln];
printf("%s\n", buf.ptr);
}

rdmd -betterC bettercarray2.d

and get error:

/tmp/.rdmd-1000/rdmd-bettercarray2.d-435C14EC3DAF09FFABF8ED6919B624C1/objs/bettercarray2.o:
 In function `main':
bettercarray2.d:(.text.main[main]+0xbc): undefined reference to 
`_d_arraycopy'

collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
Error: linker exited with status 1



Bug submitted here: https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18010


Re: betterC and noboundscheck

2017-11-23 Thread codephantom via Digitalmars-d-learn

On Friday, 24 November 2017 at 05:01:17 UTC, Basile B. wrote:

On Friday, 24 November 2017 at 00:17:31 UTC, codephantom wrote:

On Wednesday, 22 November 2017 at 15:10:40 UTC, Oleg B wrote:

If I add -noboundscheck flag all works fine.

dmd version is 2.076.1

Why -betterC flag not 'include' -noboundscheck flag?
It's bug or in some cases it's useful?



Interestingly, ldc2 will compile this ok, without the 
-noboundscheck flag


btw. you should start using: boundscheck=off/on/safeonly flag 
instead i believe.


https://dlang.org/dmd-windows.html#switch-boundscheck


It's b/c LDC2 doesn't have the most recent betterC features. It 
works just like it worked in older DMD release (e.g w 2.075), 
when betterC was "inexact" / "mostly unimplemented"



Thanks. I didn't take that into account (was using LDC 1.5.0 
..based on 2.075.1)


Getting used to monthly compiler updates is a real challenge.. 
not something I'm used to ;-)


Re: betterC and noboundscheck

2017-11-23 Thread Basile B. via Digitalmars-d-learn

On Friday, 24 November 2017 at 00:17:31 UTC, codephantom wrote:

On Wednesday, 22 November 2017 at 15:10:40 UTC, Oleg B wrote:

If I add -noboundscheck flag all works fine.

dmd version is 2.076.1

Why -betterC flag not 'include' -noboundscheck flag?
It's bug or in some cases it's useful?



Interestingly, ldc2 will compile this ok, without the 
-noboundscheck flag


btw. you should start using: boundscheck=off/on/safeonly flag 
instead i believe.


https://dlang.org/dmd-windows.html#switch-boundscheck


It's b/c LDC2 doesn't have the most recent betterC features. It 
works just like it worked in older DMD release (e.g w 2.075), 
when betterC was "inexact" / "mostly unimplemented"


Re: betterC and noboundscheck

2017-11-23 Thread codephantom via Digitalmars-d-learn

On Wednesday, 22 November 2017 at 15:10:40 UTC, Oleg B wrote:

If I add -noboundscheck flag all works fine.

dmd version is 2.076.1

Why -betterC flag not 'include' -noboundscheck flag?
It's bug or in some cases it's useful?



Interestingly, ldc2 will compile this ok, without the 
-noboundscheck flag


btw. you should start using: boundscheck=off/on/safeonly flag 
instead i believe.


https://dlang.org/dmd-windows.html#switch-boundscheck



Re: betterC and noboundscheck

2017-11-22 Thread Nicholas Wilson via Digitalmars-d-learn

On Wednesday, 22 November 2017 at 16:57:10 UTC, Joakim wrote:

On Wednesday, 22 November 2017 at 15:10:40 UTC, Oleg B wrote:

[...]


betterC is a new feature that's still being worked on and still 
has holes in it:


https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/7151

I suggest you open an issue for it on bugzilla, as this sounds 
like either a hole or at least something that should be 
documented better:


https://issues.dlang.org


see also https://github.com/ldc-developers/ldc/pull/2426 (also 
WiP).


Re: betterC and noboundscheck

2017-11-22 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d-learn

On Wednesday, 22 November 2017 at 15:10:40 UTC, Oleg B wrote:

Hello. I try compile simple example:

import core.stdc.stdio;
import std.algorithm : min;

extern (C) void main()
{
char[256] buf;
buf[] = '\0';

auto str = "hello world";
auto ln = min(buf.length, str.length);
buf[0..ln] = str[0..ln];
printf("%s\n", buf.ptr);
}

rdmd -betterC bettercarray2.d

and get error:

/tmp/.rdmd-1000/rdmd-bettercarray2.d-435C14EC3DAF09FFABF8ED6919B624C1/objs/bettercarray2.o:
 In function `main':
bettercarray2.d:(.text.main[main]+0xbc): undefined reference to 
`_d_arraycopy'

collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
Error: linker exited with status 1

If I understand correctly _d_arraycopy is part of druntime and 
it check bounds of array access.


If I add -noboundscheck flag all works fine.

dmd version is 2.076.1

Why -betterC flag not 'include' -noboundscheck flag?
It's bug or in some cases it's useful?


betterC is a new feature that's still being worked on and still 
has holes in it:


https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/7151

I suggest you open an issue for it on bugzilla, as this sounds 
like either a hole or at least something that should be 
documented better:


https://issues.dlang.org


Re: betterC and noboundscheck

2017-11-22 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d-learn

On Wednesday, 22 November 2017 at 15:10:40 UTC, Oleg B wrote:

Why -betterC flag not 'include' -noboundscheck flag?


-noboundscheck is extremely harmful. If -betterC implied that, it 
would no longer be a better C, it would just be the same buggy C.


The compiler should perhaps inline the bounds check so it doesn't 
need the druntime function, but it certainly shouldn't skip it.




betterC and noboundscheck

2017-11-22 Thread Oleg B via Digitalmars-d-learn

Hello. I try compile simple example:

import core.stdc.stdio;
import std.algorithm : min;

extern (C) void main()
{
char[256] buf;
buf[] = '\0';

auto str = "hello world";
auto ln = min(buf.length, str.length);
buf[0..ln] = str[0..ln];
printf("%s\n", buf.ptr);
}

rdmd -betterC bettercarray2.d

and get error:

/tmp/.rdmd-1000/rdmd-bettercarray2.d-435C14EC3DAF09FFABF8ED6919B624C1/objs/bettercarray2.o:
 In function `main':
bettercarray2.d:(.text.main[main]+0xbc): undefined reference to 
`_d_arraycopy'

collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
Error: linker exited with status 1

If I understand correctly _d_arraycopy is part of druntime and it 
check bounds of array access.


If I add -noboundscheck flag all works fine.

dmd version is 2.076.1

Why -betterC flag not 'include' -noboundscheck flag?
It's bug or in some cases it's useful?