Re: refRange with non copyable struct

2017-04-17 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Monday, April 17, 2017 19:39:25 Stanislav Blinov via Digitalmars-d-learn 
wrote:
> On Monday, 17 April 2017 at 19:00:44 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
> > Because otherwise, it's not acting like a reference to the
> > original range, which is the whole point of RefRange. The
> > correct solution would probably be to @disable opAssign in the
> > case where the original range can't be overwritten by another
> > range.
>
> This doesn't look quite right. References in D are rebindable.
> That is, assigning a reference to a reference does not copy
> referenced object, only the reference itself.
> It seems that RefRange is trying to impersonate a C++ reference.

The term reference in D is a bit overloaded. The whole point of RefRange is
to have the original range affected by everything that happens to the new
range as if it were the original range - which is what happens with ref
(which is not rebindable) except that ref only works on parameters and
return types. So, yes, it is similar to a C++ reference. It's not trying to
be a pointer, which is more like what a class reference is.

- Jonathan M Davis



Re: refRange with non copyable struct

2017-04-17 Thread Stanislav Blinov via Digitalmars-d-learn

On Monday, 17 April 2017 at 19:00:44 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:

Because otherwise, it's not acting like a reference to the 
original range, which is the whole point of RefRange. The 
correct solution would probably be to @disable opAssign in the 
case where the original range can't be overwritten by another 
range.


This doesn't look quite right. References in D are rebindable. 
That is, assigning a reference to a reference does not copy 
referenced object, only the reference itself.

It seems that RefRange is trying to impersonate a C++ reference.


Re: refRange with non copyable struct

2017-04-17 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Monday, April 17, 2017 18:45:46 Jerry via Digitalmars-d-learn wrote:
> On Monday, 17 April 2017 at 18:07:36 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
> > In this particular case, it looks like the main problem is
> > RefRange's opAssign. For it to work, the type needs to be
> > copyable. It might be reasonable for RefRange to be enhanced so
> > that it doesn't compile in opAssign if the range isn't
> > copyable, but I'd have to study RefRange in depth to know what
> > the exact consequences of that would be, since it's been quite
> > a while since I did anything with it. My guess is that such a
> > change would be reasonable, but I don't know without studying
> > it.
> >
> > - Jonathan M Davis
>
> I took a look on RefRange and the reasoning is clearly explained
> in the docs like this:
>
> This does not assign the pointer of $(D rhs) to this $(D
> RefRange).
> Rather it assigns the range pointed to by $(D rhs) to the range
> pointed
> to by this $(D RefRange). This is because $(I any) operation on a
> RefRange) is the same is if it occurred to the original range. The
> exception is when a $(D RefRange) is assigned $(D null) either
> or because $(D rhs) is $(D null). In that case, $(D RefRange)
> longer refers to the original range but is $(D null).
>
>
>
> But what I do not understand is why this is important.

Because otherwise, it's not acting like a reference to the original range,
which is the whole point of RefRange. The correct solution would probably be
to @disable opAssign in the case where the original range can't be
overwritten by another range.

- Jonathan M Davis



Re: refRange with non copyable struct

2017-04-17 Thread Jerry via Digitalmars-d-learn

On Monday, 17 April 2017 at 18:07:36 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
In this particular case, it looks like the main problem is 
RefRange's opAssign. For it to work, the type needs to be 
copyable. It might be reasonable for RefRange to be enhanced so 
that it doesn't compile in opAssign if the range isn't 
copyable, but I'd have to study RefRange in depth to know what 
the exact consequences of that would be, since it's been quite 
a while since I did anything with it. My guess is that such a 
change would be reasonable, but I don't know without studying 
it.


- Jonathan M Davis


I took a look on RefRange and the reasoning is clearly explained 
in the docs like this:


This does not assign the pointer of $(D rhs) to this $(D 
RefRange).
Rather it assigns the range pointed to by $(D rhs) to the range 
pointed

to by this $(D RefRange). This is because $(I any) operation on a
RefRange) is the same is if it occurred to the original range. The
exception is when a $(D RefRange) is assigned $(D null) either
or because $(D rhs) is $(D null). In that case, $(D RefRange)
longer refers to the original range but is $(D null).



But what I do not understand is why this is important.


Re: refRange with non copyable struct

2017-04-17 Thread Jerry via Digitalmars-d-learn

On Monday, 17 April 2017 at 18:07:36 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:

Non-copyable types tend to wreak havoc with things
- Jonathan M Davis


Basicly what I use this for is to combine RAII with ranges.
Which I find quite useful when doing DB queries and the data is 
lazily fetched
since this allows me to guarantee that the query is "closed" and 
another query can take place.




Re: refRange with non copyable struct

2017-04-17 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Monday, April 17, 2017 17:23:32 Jerry via Digitalmars-d-learn wrote:
> Hello guys, so I wanted to have a noncopyable range on the stack.
> So my thoughts was to make it non copyable and use refRange
> whenever I want to use it with map and others.
>
> But I got a compiler warning when doing so like this:
>
> import std.range;
>
> void main() {
>   NonCopyable v;
>
>   refRange();
> }
>
> struct NonCopyable
> {
>   @disable this(this);
>
>   int data;
>
>   enum empty = false;
>   void popFront() {}
>   int front() { return data; }
> }
>
>
>
>
>
> With the error message:
>
> C:\D\dmd2\windows\bin\..\..\src\phobos\std\range\package.d(8941):
> Error: struct reproduction.NonCopyable is not copyable because it
> is annotated with @disable
> C:\D\dmd2\windows\bin\..\..\src\phobos\std\range\package.d(8982):
> Error: mutable method reproduction.NonCopyable.front is not
> callable using a const object
> C:\D\dmd2\windows\bin\..\..\src\phobos\std\range\package.d(9649):
> Error: template instance std.range.RefRange!(NonCopyable) error
> instantiating
> reproduction.d(6):instantiated from here:
> refRange!(NonCopyable)
>
>
>
>
> Is there any workaround?
> Is this a bug?

Well, I don't think that much range-based code in general is going to work
with a disabled postblit constructor, and it's not something that's
generally tested for unless someone is specifically trying to use such a
type with a specific piece of code. Non-copyable types tend to wreak havoc
with things - not that they shouldn't necessarily work, but most stuff tends
to assume that types are copyable, and supporting non-copyable often
complicates things quite a bit. Most of Phobos simply hasn't been tested
with non-copyable types even if the functionality in question should
arguably work with them.

In this particular case, it looks like the main problem is RefRange's
opAssign. For it to work, the type needs to be copyable. It might be
reasonable for RefRange to be enhanced so that it doesn't compile in
opAssign if the range isn't copyable, but I'd have to study RefRange in
depth to know what the exact consequences of that would be, since it's been
quite a while since I did anything with it. My guess is that such a change
would be reasonable, but I don't know without studying it.

- Jonathan M Davis



refRange with non copyable struct

2017-04-17 Thread Jerry via Digitalmars-d-learn

Hello guys, so I wanted to have a noncopyable range on the stack.
So my thoughts was to make it non copyable and use refRange 
whenever I want to use it with map and others.


But I got a compiler warning when doing so like this:

import std.range;

void main() {
NonCopyable v;

refRange();
}

struct NonCopyable
{
@disable this(this);

int data;

enum empty = false;
void popFront() {}
int front() { return data; }
}





With the error message:

C:\D\dmd2\windows\bin\..\..\src\phobos\std\range\package.d(8941): 
Error: struct reproduction.NonCopyable is not copyable because it 
is annotated with @disable
C:\D\dmd2\windows\bin\..\..\src\phobos\std\range\package.d(8982): 
Error: mutable method reproduction.NonCopyable.front is not 
callable using a const object
C:\D\dmd2\windows\bin\..\..\src\phobos\std\range\package.d(9649): 
Error: template instance std.range.RefRange!(NonCopyable) error 
instantiating
reproduction.d(6):instantiated from here: 
refRange!(NonCopyable)





Is there any workaround?
Is this a bug?