Re: D need an ORM library!
On Wed, 2018-08-22 at 06:14 +, binghoo dang via Digitalmars-d-learn wrote: […] > yeah, Diamond is great, but I think it will be more wonderful if > it's database ORM can be separated to a standalone project, > that's would be useful for the application that's is not WEB > oriented but need an ORM. Possibly, but possibly not. Django has an ORM, but SQLAlchemy happened as well. -- Russel. === Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 41 Buckmaster Roadm: +44 7770 465 077 London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: D need an ORM library!
On Wednesday, 22 August 2018 at 06:14:40 UTC, binghoo dang wrote: On Tuesday, 21 August 2018 at 10:48:30 UTC, bauss wrote: Currently (When I get time again) working on implementing PostgreSQL and Sqlite support for Diamond. Mysql and Mssql should work out the box. https://github.com/DiamondMVC/Diamond Some examples will come later, unless you use the latest stable version of Diamond then you have examples for MySql, but the implementation changes with the next release. http://diamondmvc.org/docs/data/#database I wouldn't call it light-weight like you explain, because it does have the whole framework, but you could technically just strip out the part of compile it with the appropriate flags to exclude the parts you don't need like the webserver. Else take a look at https://github.com/buggins/hibernated and perhaps https://github.com/buggins/ddbc is enough. yeah, Diamond is great, but I think it will be more wonderful if it's database ORM can be separated to a standalone project, that's would be useful for the application that's is not WEB oriented but need an ORM. Diamond works without web though. You can disable all web features and simply just import the modules for the orm etc. The ORM was used to be standalone, but became a huge dependency, so was just integrated into it. I would suggest
Re: D need an ORM library!
On Wednesday, 22 August 2018 at 09:33:26 UTC, bauss wrote: I would suggest Accidentally pressed "Send", but as I was saying. I would suggest https://github.com/buggins/hibernated as an alternative.
Re: D need an ORM library!
On Tuesday, 21 August 2018 at 08:22:34 UTC, Russel Winder wrote: If there was a D version of SQLAlchemy, that would be wonderful. Feel free to s/TBA/Russel Winder/ Great! there are many people waiting for this! ^_^
Re: D need an ORM library!
On Tuesday, 21 August 2018 at 10:48:30 UTC, bauss wrote: Currently (When I get time again) working on implementing PostgreSQL and Sqlite support for Diamond. Mysql and Mssql should work out the box. https://github.com/DiamondMVC/Diamond Some examples will come later, unless you use the latest stable version of Diamond then you have examples for MySql, but the implementation changes with the next release. http://diamondmvc.org/docs/data/#database I wouldn't call it light-weight like you explain, because it does have the whole framework, but you could technically just strip out the part of compile it with the appropriate flags to exclude the parts you don't need like the webserver. Else take a look at https://github.com/buggins/hibernated and perhaps https://github.com/buggins/ddbc is enough. yeah, Diamond is great, but I think it will be more wonderful if it's database ORM can be separated to a standalone project, that's would be useful for the application that's is not WEB oriented but need an ORM.
Re: D need an ORM library!
On Monday, 20 August 2018 at 02:30:16 UTC, binghoo dang wrote: hi, I thinks D need an ORM library for Sqlite/Mysql/PostgreSQL, entity currently support all the three targets, but entity's API is too complex and cumbersome for using. Is there a more light-weight and simpler implementation like ActiveAndroid ? Thanks! --- Binghoo Dang Currently (When I get time again) working on implementing PostgreSQL and Sqlite support for Diamond. Mysql and Mssql should work out the box. https://github.com/DiamondMVC/Diamond Some examples will come later, unless you use the latest stable version of Diamond then you have examples for MySql, but the implementation changes with the next release. http://diamondmvc.org/docs/data/#database I wouldn't call it light-weight like you explain, because it does have the whole framework, but you could technically just strip out the part of compile it with the appropriate flags to exclude the parts you don't need like the webserver. Else take a look at https://github.com/buggins/hibernated and perhaps https://github.com/buggins/ddbc is enough.
Re: D need an ORM library!
On Tue, 2018-08-21 at 01:42 +, binghoo dang via Digitalmars-d-learn wrote: […] > > SQLAlchemy is very great, and I remember that > in D wiki has mentioned this, but the status is "Proposed Project > Mentors: TBA". SQLAlchemy is how SQL building and ORM should be done, in Python. For other programming languages it has to be an inspiration, but not used as a template for an API – different languages encourage different idiomatic solutions to the same problem. I know of a C++11 variant that had the same approach as SQLAlchemy but done in C++1 idiomatic style, but then I stopped using C++. I haven't looked for a Rust version yet, but I am hoping one is there. If there was a D version of SQLAlchemy, that would be wonderful. Feel free to s/TBA/Russel Winder/ -- Russel. === Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 41 Buckmaster Roadm: +44 7770 465 077 London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: D need an ORM library!
On Monday, 20 August 2018 at 23:24:04 UTC, Matthias Klumpp wrote: On Monday, 20 August 2018 at 15:58:37 UTC, Jesse Phillips wrote: [...] There are a number of things out there, but personally don't know there state or simplicity. 2016 there was a talk: http://dconf.org/2016/talks/nowak.html But personally I preferred this one: http://dconf.org/2016/talks/smith.html https://github.com/cruisercoder/dstddb This all looks very dead. Is there any project still alive? The only effort that still seems to be actively developed as far as I can see is hunt-entity... And I agree, SQLAlchemy is pretty great! yeah, Only entity is likely a living ORM implementation in D. But, it's API is too complicated, and API is not stable from my experience. SQLAlchemy is very great, and I remember that in D wiki has mentioned this, but the status is "Proposed Project Mentors: TBA".
Re: D need an ORM library!
On Monday, 20 August 2018 at 15:58:37 UTC, Jesse Phillips wrote: [...] There are a number of things out there, but personally don't know there state or simplicity. 2016 there was a talk: http://dconf.org/2016/talks/nowak.html But personally I preferred this one: http://dconf.org/2016/talks/smith.html https://github.com/cruisercoder/dstddb This all looks very dead. Is there any project still alive? The only effort that still seems to be actively developed as far as I can see is hunt-entity... And I agree, SQLAlchemy is pretty great!
Re: D need an ORM library!
On Mon, 2018-08-20 at 15:58 +, Jesse Phillips via Digitalmars-d- learn wrote: > On Monday, 20 August 2018 at 02:30:16 UTC, binghoo dang wrote: > > hi, > > > > I thinks D need an ORM library for Sqlite/Mysql/PostgreSQL, > > entity currently support all the three targets, but entity's > > API is too complex and cumbersome for using. Can I suggest that SQLAlchemy is excellent. It has the full on ORM for those that want it, but also an expression language so you do not have to write SQL in strings if you are not using the ORM. Being able to write Python that generated SQL (Builder pattern) has made working with SQLite almost a joy. > > Is there a more light-weight and simpler implementation like > > ActiveAndroid ? > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > --- > > > > Binghoo Dang > > There are a number of things out there, but personally don't know > there state or simplicity. > > 2016 there was a talk: http://dconf.org/2016/talks/nowak.html > > But personally I preferred this one: > http://dconf.org/2016/talks/smith.html > https://github.com/cruisercoder/dstddb -- Russel. === Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 41 Buckmaster Roadm: +44 7770 465 077 London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: D need an ORM library!
On Monday, 20 August 2018 at 02:30:16 UTC, binghoo dang wrote: hi, I thinks D need an ORM library for Sqlite/Mysql/PostgreSQL, entity currently support all the three targets, but entity's API is too complex and cumbersome for using. Is there a more light-weight and simpler implementation like ActiveAndroid ? Thanks! --- Binghoo Dang There are a number of things out there, but personally don't know there state or simplicity. 2016 there was a talk: http://dconf.org/2016/talks/nowak.html But personally I preferred this one: http://dconf.org/2016/talks/smith.html https://github.com/cruisercoder/dstddb
