Re: D vs nim

On Monday, 14 May 2018 at 06:14:02 UTC, Rel wrote: On Thursday, 3 May 2018 at 19:11:05 UTC, Mark wrote: Funnily, none of these languages have a "static if" construct, nor do Rust, Swift and Nim. Not one that I could find, anyway. So what's a big deal in having 'static if' construct? Most of

Re: D vs nim

On Thursday, 3 May 2018 at 19:11:05 UTC, Mark wrote: Funnily, none of these languages have a "static if" construct, nor do Rust, Swift and Nim. Not one that I could find, anyway. So what's a big deal in having 'static if' construct? Most of the new programming languages that compiles to native

Re: D vs nim

On Thursday, 3 May 2018 at 19:11:05 UTC, Mark wrote: On Wednesday, 25 April 2018 at 14:18:07 UTC, Rel wrote: In case you guys like to take a quick look at new emerging, but somewhat unknown systems programming languages: * https://www.red-lang.org/ (own handwritten backend) *

Re: D vs nim

i think the explanation in https://nim-lang.org/docs/manual.html#statements-and-expressions-when-statement is pretty clear. In any case you can see for yourself: nim c -r main.nim ```nim proc fun(a:int):auto=a*a static: # makes sure block evaluated at CT when fun(1)==1: echo "ok1" when

Re: D vs nim

On Thursday, 3 May 2018 at 23:09:34 UTC, Timothee Cour wrote: nim supports static if (`when`) + CTFE. A simple google search or searching would've revealed that. On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 3:20 PM Mark via Digitalmars-d < digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote: On Thursday, 3 May 2018 at 20:57:16

Re: D vs nim

nim supports static if (`when`) + CTFE. A simple google search or searching would've revealed that. On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 3:20 PM Mark via Digitalmars-d < digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote: > On Thursday, 3 May 2018 at 20:57:16 UTC, Dennis wrote: > > On Thursday, 3 May 2018 at 19:11:05 UTC,

Re: D vs nim

On Thursday, 3 May 2018 at 20:57:16 UTC, Dennis wrote: On Thursday, 3 May 2018 at 19:11:05 UTC, Mark wrote: Funnily, none of these languages have a "static if" construct, nor do Rust, Swift and Nim. Not one that I could find, anyway. What qualifies under "static if"? Because Rust, Swift and

Re: D vs nim

On Thursday, 3 May 2018 at 19:11:05 UTC, Mark wrote: Funnily, none of these languages have a "static if" construct, nor do Rust, Swift and Nim. Not one that I could find, anyway. What qualifies under "static if"? Because Rust, Swift and Nim do have conditional compilation.

Re: D vs nim

On Wednesday, 25 April 2018 at 14:18:07 UTC, Rel wrote: In case you guys like to take a quick look at new emerging, but somewhat unknown systems programming languages: * https://www.red-lang.org/ (own handwritten backend) * https://crystal-lang.org/ (llvm-based backend) * https://ziglang.org/

Re: D vs nim

On Friday, 10 April 2015 at 21:26:35 UTC, bachmeier wrote: On Friday, 10 April 2015 at 18:52:24 UTC, weaselcat wrote: The only things I've read about nim have been on the D forums - it seems the wikipedia article is even being considered for deletion due to not being noteworthy. So I think you

Re: D vs nim

In case you guys like to take a quick look at new emerging, but somewhat unknown systems programming languages: * https://www.red-lang.org/ (own handwritten backend) * https://crystal-lang.org/ (llvm-based backend) * https://ziglang.org/ (llvm-based backend) * http://nitlanguage.org/ (c-based

Re: D vs nim

As for me, I find the Nim programming language interesting. However I dislike syntax a bit, in some cases Python+Pascal syntax style of Nim looks very ugly in my opinion. Also I strongly against relying on C compiler for code generation, knowing how slow it can be. Obviously it was easy for

Re: D vs nim

On Friday, 20 April 2018 at 11:07:30 UTC, Russel Winder wrote: Has anyone got Pony on their list of interesting languages? I had spent some time looking over the reference capabilities [1], but I'm not sure I have the time to actually program in the language. The isolated type seemed like

Re: D vs nim

On Friday, 20 April 2018 at 11:07:30 UTC, Russel Winder wrote: On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 16:50 +, Per Nordlöw via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Friday, 10 April 2015 at 18:52:24 UTC, weaselcat wrote: > P.S., the example on the language's frontpage is cool! > > http://nim-lang.org/ > > Why should I

Re: D vs nim

On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 16:50 +, Per Nordlöw via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Friday, 10 April 2015 at 18:52:24 UTC, weaselcat wrote: > > P.S., the example on the language's frontpage is cool! > > > > http://nim-lang.org/ > > > > Why should I be excited? > > Nim is the only language that

Re: D vs nim

On Friday, 10 April 2015 at 18:52:24 UTC, weaselcat wrote: P.S., the example on the language's frontpage is cool! http://nim-lang.org/ Why should I be excited? Nim is the only language that leverages automated proof technology to perform a disjoint check for your parallel code. Working on

Re: D vs nim

On Tuesday, 27 March 2018 at 01:19:44 UTC, timotheecour wrote: I've created a git repo https://github.com/timotheecour/D_vs_nim/ with the goal: up to date and objective comparison of features between D and nim, and 1:1 map of features, tools, idioms and libraries to help D users learn nim and

Re: D vs nim

@helxi I invite you to contribute PR's to https://github.com/timotheecour/D_vs_nim/ where I discuss feature parity and how to translate concepts from D to nim wherever it makes sense On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 4:12 PM, helxi via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Friday, 10

Re: D vs nim

On Friday, 10 April 2015 at 18:42:20 UTC, Timothee Cour wrote: Nim looks very promising. Is there any comprehensive comparison against D somewhere (if possible recent) ? Nim is way more expressive than D afaik. Consider the following imaginary function: proc fn[A : int | float; N; B :

Re: D vs nim

On Thursday, 29 March 2018 at 03:57:05 UTC, Arun Chandrasekaran wrote: On Tuesday, 27 March 2018 at 23:23:10 UTC, Timothee Cour wrote: This is deterministic destruction and not RAII. Resource is never *acquired* here. Lack of default constructors for struct in D makes it impossible to

Re: D vs nim

On 29/03/18 14:03, Maksim Fomin wrote: On Thursday, 29 March 2018 at 09:45:04 UTC, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Not so long as destructors don't reliably run. $ rdmd test.d A(1) constructed A(2) constructed A(1) destructed Caught: Constructor failed https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14246

Re: D vs nim

On Thursday, 29 March 2018 at 09:45:04 UTC, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Not so long as destructors don't reliably run. $ rdmd test.d A(1) constructed A(2) constructed A(1) destructed Caught: Constructor failed https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14246 Good catch. This is a variant of bug

Re: D vs nim

On 28/03/18 02:23, Timothee Cour wrote: that comment was regarding -betterC RAII (with structs) has been available in D for a while, eg: ```d struct A{ ~this(){...} } void fun(){ A a; // when a goes out of scope, will call dtor deterministically } ``` Not so long as destructors don't

Re: D vs nim

On Tuesday, 27 March 2018 at 23:23:10 UTC, Timothee Cour wrote: that comment was regarding -betterC RAII (with structs) has been available in D for a while, eg: ```d struct A{ ~this(){...} } void fun(){ A a; // when a goes out of scope, will call dtor deterministically } ``` On Tue,

Re: D vs nim

On Tuesday, 27 March 2018 at 12:02:37 UTC, jmh530 wrote: On Wednesday, 22 April 2015 at 06:03:07 UTC, Timothee Cour wrote: [snip] I would like to refocus this thread on feature set and how it compares to D, not on flame wars about brackets or language marketing issues. In the comparison

Re: D vs nim

that comment was regarding -betterC RAII (with structs) has been available in D for a while, eg: ```d struct A{ ~this(){...} } void fun(){ A a; // when a goes out of scope, will call dtor deterministically } ``` On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Ali via Digitalmars-d

Re: D vs nim

On Tuesday, 27 March 2018 at 01:19:44 UTC, timotheecour wrote: On Wednesday, 22 April 2015 at 06:03:07 UTC, Timothee Cour wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Timothee Cour wrote: I would like to refocus this thread on feature set and how it compares to D, not

Re: D vs nim

On 28/03/2018 1:02 AM, jmh530 wrote: On Wednesday, 22 April 2015 at 06:03:07 UTC, Timothee Cour wrote: [snip] I would like to refocus this thread on feature set and how it compares to D, not on flame wars about brackets or language marketing issues. In the comparison you made

Re: D vs nim

On Wednesday, 22 April 2015 at 06:03:07 UTC, Timothee Cour wrote: [snip] I would like to refocus this thread on feature set and how it compares to D, not on flame wars about brackets or language marketing issues. In the comparison you made https://github.com/timotheecour/D_vs_nim/ you say

Re: D vs nim

On Wednesday, 22 April 2015 at 06:03:07 UTC, Timothee Cour wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Timothee Cour wrote: I would like to refocus this thread on feature set and how it compares to D, not on flame wars about brackets or language marketing issues.

Re: D vs nim

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Timothee Cour thelastmamm...@gmail.com wrote: I think people interested in D should take a closer look at nim and judge for yourself ; http://nim-lang.org/tut1.html is a good starting point (docs in general are very well written). I went through their

Re: D vs nim

On Tue, 2015-04-21 at 09:42 -0700, Parke via Digitalmars-d wrote: […] How should I modify the following script to encounter the problems of which you speak? unzip -q nim-0.10.2.zip I think the issue here is that this is the release from a while back, whereas I am trying to build

Re: D vs nim

On Tuesday, 21 April 2015 at 08:29:11 UTC, Russel Winder wrote: On Mon, 2015-04-20 at 13:05 -0700, Parke via Digitalmars-d wrote: […] Nim includes an install.sh script. It worked for me. install.sh calls koch, both of these are created by running build.sh. Running koch builds the

Re: D vs nim

On Mon, 2015-04-20 at 13:05 -0700, Parke via Digitalmars-d wrote: […] Nim includes an install.sh script. It worked for me. install.sh calls koch, both of these are created by running build.sh. Running koch builds the executable for installation which requires extra compilations one critical

Re: D vs nim

On Mon, 2015-04-20 at 13:05 -0700, Parke via Digitalmars-d wrote: Nim includes an install.sh script. It worked for me. On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 1:28 AM, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: install.sh calls koch, both of these are created by running build.sh.

Re: D vs nim

Russel Winder: it is all part of guerilla marketing undertaken by anyone with anything to market. It's still not a correct behavour, regardless how many do it. Bye, bearophile

Re: D vs nim

On Monday, 13 April 2015 at 17:28:14 UTC, Timothee Cour wrote: I think people interested in D should take a closer look at nim and judge for yourself ; http://nim-lang.org/tut1.html is a good starting point (docs in general are very well written). I went through their tutorials and here are

Re: D vs nim

On Tue, 2015-04-14 at 12:47 +, bachmeier via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Tuesday, 14 April 2015 at 10:48:48 UTC, Messenger wrote: To be fair, a vocal minority says the same of D. Accusations of linkbombing are commonplace, as is the notion that the D forums are nice except for the

Re: D vs nim

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 2:21 AM, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: I like the Nim concept and approach, but there is an annoying attitude towards certain types of obvious bug. My current bugbear (!) is that the installer will not install, due to what seems like

Re: D vs nim

btw : I think D should get rid off un-bracketed if statement, program king is not about sparing the number of lines...but that’s again a matter of taste. I'm that guy on the other side of the fence. I view unbracked IFs as an essential part of concise code readability. Brackets are the

Re: D vs nim

On Tuesday, 14 April 2015 at 06:31:08 UTC, Jadbox wrote: btw : I think D should get rid off un-bracketed if statement, program king is not about sparing the number of lines...but that’s again a matter of taste. I'm that guy on the other side of the fence. I view unbracked IFs as an essential

Re: D vs nim

On Tuesday, 14 April 2015 at 06:31:08 UTC, Jadbox wrote: btw : I think D should get rid off un-bracketed if statement, program king is not about sparing the number of lines...but that’s again a matter of taste. I'm that guy on the other side of the fence. I view unbracked IFs as an essential

Re: D vs nim

On Tuesday, 14 April 2015 at 06:31:08 UTC, Jadbox wrote: btw : I think D should get rid off un-bracketed if statement, program king is not about sparing the number of lines...but that’s again a matter of taste. I'm that guy on the other side of the fence. I view unbracked IFs as an essential

Re: D vs nim

On Tuesday, 14 April 2015 at 10:09:15 UTC, Idan Arye wrote: On Tuesday, 14 April 2015 at 06:31:08 UTC, Jadbox wrote: btw : I think D should get rid off un-bracketed if statement, program king is not about sparing the number of lines...but that’s again a matter of taste. I'm that guy on the

Re: D vs nim

On Friday, 10 April 2015 at 21:26:35 UTC, bachmeier wrote: On Friday, 10 April 2015 at 18:52:24 UTC, weaselcat wrote: The only things I've read about nim have been on the D forums - it seems the wikipedia article is even being considered for deletion due to not being noteworthy. So I think you

Re: D vs nim

On Tuesday, 14 April 2015 at 10:48:48 UTC, Messenger wrote: To be fair, a vocal minority says the same of D. Accusations of linkbombing are commonplace, as is the notion that the D forums are nice except for the constant go-bashing, claims that there is an organized secret cabal (naturally led

Re: D vs nim

Sorry if I don't make my point accurately, it's been not so long since I started learning English. I often found programming language community relates to churchs. I find D to be really present on reddit and that’s great because other people can discover that wonderful language. But blaming

Re: D vs nim

I think people interested in D should take a closer look at nim and judge for yourself ; http://nim-lang.org/tut1.html is a good starting point (docs in general are very well written). I went through their tutorials and here are some first impressions: * nim is already bootstrapped

Re: D vs nim

On Friday, 10 April 2015 at 18:52:24 UTC, weaselcat wrote: The only things I've read about nim have been on the D forums - it seems the wikipedia article is even being considered for deletion due to not being noteworthy. So I think you might have trouble finding any comparisons. Read the