Re: [digitalradio] Viewing Modulation with Oscilloscope

2006-01-25 Thread Kevin der Kinderen
Rich: I should know the exact answer to this - an RF tap to pull a little power off the transmit sig - but I'm not sure what device to recomment. Have you considered one of the imd meters available? I use the KK7UQ IMD meter but an alternative is the PSKMeter. The KK7UQ IMD meter gives me an LED

Re: [digitalradio] Re: unknown garbage trashes QSO

2006-01-25 Thread Danny Douglas
Yep, that was it. Aggrivation personafied. - Original Message - From: "mulveyraa2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 9:13 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: unknown garbage trashes QSO > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Danny Douglas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wr

[digitalradio] Moderator action

2006-01-25 Thread obrienaj
A "cooling off period" appears to be needed. Many, many, good posts in the last few days, much appreciated. However some tempers appear frayed, so I have turned ON the moderation requirement for ALL messages by ALL members. This will be just a pause for a few hours to allow a period of refl

[digitalradio] Re: unknown garbage trashes QSO

2006-01-25 Thread mulveyraa2
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Danny Douglas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There was only one station being heard on that frequency, the 6O which had been there for quite some time. (And of course the ones that never get the word and call him simplex when he is listening up the band. Wha

[digitalradio] Viewing Modulation with Oscilloscope

2006-01-25 Thread Richard
I am interested in verifying that I am not over-driving PSK31. Is there a simple signal conditioning interface to an oscilloscope input? Thanks Rich Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/

Re: [digitalradio] Re: encryption

2006-01-25 Thread Harv Nelson
> These are dangerous times when enemies-without-borders > are bend upon our destruction and care not for their > own temporal well-being.  No point in making ourselves > easy targets. bullshit!! it is perfectly obious to me, that during ythe pst disaster dhs affiliates and tyheir minion

Re: [digitalradio] unknown garbage trashes QSO

2006-01-25 Thread Danny Douglas
There was only one station being heard on that frequency, the 6O which had been there for quite some time.  (And of course the ones that never get the word and call him simplex when he is listening up the band.  Whatever it was came up, and we immediately started loosing the 6O contacts he

[digitalradio] Re: unknown garbage trashes QSO

2006-01-25 Thread N6CRR
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Danny Douglas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just lost a QSO with 6O0N due to some trash coming up on 7.0637 thru 7.0644. Can anyone identify what that junk is? Perfect example of SSB and Digital modes on same freq, not compatable. > > Danny Douglas N7DC

Re: [digitalradio] unknown garbage trashes QSO

2006-01-25 Thread Danny Douglas
I was on voice, split operation. 6O was transmitting that freq when this buzz buzz came up. Probably Pactor, as I dont work it, and can only assume it was of that type. He certainly didnt listen, nor ask using any other mode, if the freq was in use. - Original Message - From: "John Bec

[digitalradio] RM-11306 Rant

2006-01-25 Thread N6CRR
The whole bandwidth RM issue brings what I think is a philosophical argument to Amateur Radio and it is probably a good time to put the discussion in those very simple philosophical points of view. On the one hand we have the Winlink, and email over HF radio camp, which seem to view Amateur Radio

Re: [digitalradio] unknown garbage trashes QSO

2006-01-25 Thread John Bradley
FYI   from about 2130Z, there were a number of VE and European SSB stations on and about 7065, since the band was open and they can legitimately tx there.   As well there were a number of VE5,VE6 and VE7 stations in QSO, ( I was one of them) that meet regularly on 7065. about that time of

Re: [digitalradio] unknown garbage trashes QSO

2006-01-25 Thread John Becker
right now there is CW and Pactor. Are you on LSB or USB? That would help. At 06:21 PM 1/25/06, you wrote: >I just lost a QSO with 6O0N due to some trash coming up on 7.0637 thru >7.0644. Can anyone identify what that junk is? Perfect example of SSB >and Digital modes on same freq, not compat

[digitalradio] unknown garbage trashes QSO

2006-01-25 Thread Danny Douglas
I just lost a QSO with 6O0N due to some trash coming up on 7.0637 thru 7.0644.  Can anyone identify what that junk is?  Perfect example of SSB and Digital modes on same freq, not compatable.   Danny Douglas N7DCex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USASV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB Need a Digital mo

Re: [digitalradio] Re: encryption

2006-01-25 Thread Paul L Schmidt
kd4e wrote: >>2. during a declared emergency > > > And then only for specific purposes as requested by > a Homeland Security approved agency and properly > documented. > > One does not want to open the floodgates every time > there is a declared emergency somewhere. > > We have to remember tha

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Mode proposal "Jamtor Iv"

2006-01-25 Thread Paul L Schmidt
Which is why I didn't completely disagree with the 'no place', just suggested it be slightly moderated to 'only a limited place'. :) Tim Gorman wrote: > On Wednesday 25 January 2006 04:47, Paul L Schmidt wrote: > >>How about changing "no place" to "only a limited place". >> >>For example, it's e

Re: [digitalradio] Winlink commercial value

2006-01-25 Thread KV9U
The Winlink 2000 team spokesperson has found improper user of the Winlink 2000 system and those users have been banned from the system. This is exactly the same as the issues with VHF packet radio BBS systems. The regulations apply in the same way. The hams running the system need to do some sp

[digitalradio] Re: [MFSK] MFSK8 specification?

2006-01-25 Thread Nino Porcino \(IZ8BLY\)
> Where can I find MFSK8 mode specification? > > I mean MFSK8 mode of "Stream" software. Hi Sergei, MFSK8 (as featured in Stream) shares most of MFSK16 parameters. It was meant to be the "slow" version of MFSK16. What changes respect to MFSK16 is: baud rate: 7.8125 baud (half as MFSK16) tone s

[digitalradio] Semi-auto versus auto control of stations

2006-01-25 Thread jgorman01
Dave, I will pick on your message, but what really triggered my comment is my perception of the misunderstanding between "semi-automtic operation" and "control". Too many comments here seem to display an acceptance of a relationship between these terms. Semi-automatic operation may a good term t

Re: [digitalradio] Winlink commercial value

2006-01-25 Thread kd4e
> Even though it has been said before, based on the comment below, it > needs to be said again ... Winlink and Winlink 2000 and any other > similar systems used on amateur radio ... do NOT have commecial value to > those running such systems. It is unknown if *users* are misusing Ham spectrum f

[digitalradio] Re: encryption

2006-01-25 Thread kd4e
> Dave Bernstein wrote: > After discussing this offline with Walt K5YFW, I would say that > encryption on the amateur bands should only be permitted in two > specific circumstances: > > 1. to control a remote device (e.g. a satellite) Carefully documented -- I believe a FCC required log of all

[digitalradio] Re: encryption

2006-01-25 Thread Dave Bernstein
After discussing this offline with Walt K5YFW, I would say that encryption on the amateur bands should only be permitted in two specific circumstances: 1. to control a remote device (e.g. a satellite) 2. during a declared emergency 73, Dave, AA6YQ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.co

[digitalradio] Signal detection

2006-01-25 Thread KV9U
Again, as has been said before but some may not be aware of it ... this technology has been developed by Rick, KN6KB. I have tested it out as have many other beta testers of SCAMP and it works. It does not matter what digital or analog mode is on the frequency since it is able to detect modulat

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Olivia frequencies

2006-01-25 Thread Danny Douglas
Title: RE: [digitalradio] Re: Olivia frequencies No such thing.  It was for something like 30 or 60 minutes. Think I got one back there somewhere. Dnny   - Original Message - From: DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA To: 'digitalradio@yahoogroups.com' Sent: Wednesday,

[digitalradio] Winlink commercial value

2006-01-25 Thread KV9U
Even though it has been said before, based on the comment below, it needs to be said again ... Winlink and Winlink 2000 and any other similar systems used on amateur radio ... do NOT have commecial value to those running such systems. When anyone makes such claims, they lose much of their credi

RE: [digitalradio] Re: New Mode proposal "Jamtor Iv"

2006-01-25 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
Title: RE: [digitalradio] Re: New Mode proposal "Jamtor Iv" I saw (in a video presentation...the Harris modem) one connected to a big TenTec, one connected to a Harris HF transceiver and one to a RACAL Shortwave radio.  All were copying signals on differnet bands. Walt/K5YFW -Original

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Olivia frequencies

2006-01-25 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
Title: RE: [digitalradio] Re: Olivia frequencies Have you ever heard of the "Rag Chewer's Award?"  Given to individuals who have a continuous 24 hour QSO? Walt/K5YFW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Tim Gorman

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Olivia frequencies

2006-01-25 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
Title: RE: [digitalradio] Re: Olivia frequencies I heard the same sort of comment when SSB was new.  "The SSB equipment cost so much that only rich hams can afford it."  Now everyone has "it". My only problem with P3 or any new mode is that as hams we should try to exploit COTS hardware.  F

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Mode proposal "Jamtor Iv"

2006-01-25 Thread Tim Gorman
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 04:47, Paul L Schmidt wrote: > How about changing "no place" to "only a limited place". > > For example, it's essential (*and currently legal*) for remote > control of things like satellites. > > And it would be nice for emergency comms -- with the health > privacy laws

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Mode proposal "Jamtor Iv"

2006-01-25 Thread Paul L Schmidt
How about changing "no place" to "only a limited place". For example, it's essential (*and currently legal*) for remote control of things like satellites. And it would be nice for emergency comms -- with the health privacy laws the way they are now, permission to pass encrypted text between appro