[digitalradio] Re: ARRL proposal removes baud rate limitations on HF

2006-02-08 Thread Dave Bernstein
Purchasing an SCS modem provides the ability to monitor Pactor III. If an automatic station software employs a higher-level protocol atop Pactor III, that protocol must by rule be publicly documented. If the automatic station software provides a monitoring function, then that software could be

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ARRL proposal removes baud rate limitations on HF

2006-02-08 Thread KV9U
If we are talking about Pactor III mode, (not sure about P2), it may be very difficult to monitor. Not impossible, but would likely require some special software to decompress the B2F, etc. More than one P3 promoter has pointed this out to ARC I believe as a way to keep others from being able

[digitalradio] Re: ARRL proposal removes baud rate limitations on HF

2006-02-08 Thread Dave Bernstein
I said "a fraction", not "a few". I'm assuming that only a fraction of automatic station operators would flaunt the CW identification rule or fail to enforce the no commercial content rule; thus it would not be necessary to equip every OO with the ability to monitor every automatic protocol. To

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ARRL proposal removes baud rate limitations on HF

2006-02-08 Thread John Becker
Why not do the same for all rather then just a few? At 08:52 PM 2/8/06, you wrote: >The primary concern - that automatic stations will QRM ongoing QSOs - > could be monitored by anyone capable of copying CW, assuming >compliance with the CW identification requirement. > >To deal with the hopeful

[digitalradio] Re: ARRL proposal removes baud rate limitations on HF

2006-02-08 Thread Dave Bernstein
The primary concern - that automatic stations will QRM ongoing QSOs - could be monitored by anyone capable of copying CW, assuming compliance with the CW identification requirement. To deal with the hopefully small number of automatic stations who choose to ignore the CW identification and/or c

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ARRL proposal removes baud rate limitations on HF

2006-02-08 Thread Danny Douglas
I am talking abour baseball not radio hi - Original Message - From: "John Becker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: ARRL proposal removes baud rate limitations on HF De LØRD Yes ! Up to the day that there is a PSK-31

[digitalradio] Re: Best Equipment for PSK31

2006-02-08 Thread Nacho
Many thanks, I was thinking about 600-700$. So I was thinking in FT-840 because now has low price. I have seen also IC-703 (I like also QRP) and FT- 100. What do you think about them for digital radio?. Do you have any experience with them or with other radios with similar price?. I have been

[digitalradio] Re: ARRL proposal removes baud rate limitations on HF

2006-02-08 Thread N6CRR
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Danny Douglas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Lord! Do we have to put up with talk about THAT again. Id almost rather > watch Cricket. Jiminey that is. Hey Dickey Bird has not raised that single finger, matter of fact, seems to have waving his arm four time

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ARRL proposal removes baud rate limitations on HF

2006-02-08 Thread John Becker
De LØRD Yes ! Up to the day that there is a PSK-31 mail system and it bits them in the butt Of course the real problem is that there is those that just HATE to wide modes and will say and do any thing to see it fail. At 07:37 PM 2/8/06, you wrote: >Lord! Do we have to put up with talk a

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ARRL proposal removes baud rate limitations on HF

2006-02-08 Thread Danny Douglas
Lord! Do we have to put up with talk about THAT again. Id almost rather watch Cricket. Jiminey that is. - Original Message - From: "N6CRR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 8:29 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: ARRL proposal removes baud rate limitations on HF

[digitalradio] Re: ARRL proposal removes baud rate limitations on HF

2006-02-08 Thread N6CRR
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Credible self-policing is the key; the ARRL's Official Observer > corps would be the obvious starting point. One or two examples -- > highly publicized instances of violators losing their licenses -- > would est

[digitalradio] Re: ARRL proposal removes baud rate limitations on HF

2006-02-08 Thread Dave Bernstein
Credible self-policing is the key; the ARRL's Official Observer corps would be the obvious starting point. One or two examples -- highly publicized instances of violators losing their licenses -- would establish the appropriate degree of respect for the program. With regard to "No automatic sta

[digitalradio] Re: RM-11306

2006-02-08 Thread Dave Bernstein
Sorry, Thomas, I couldn't see the bulge in your cheek from this QTH. Clearly, one way to move amateur radio forward is to package new technology in an appealing manner. Kudos to Peter G3PLX and Skip KH6TY for igniting the explosion of interest in digital modes. There is a big difference between

Re: [digitalradio] FCC Regulation of Amateur Radio

2006-02-08 Thread Thomas Giella KN4LF
As I said in a previous post, "nowadays the FCC finds Amateur Radio to be an annoyance that just won't go away. In recent years the FCC seems to have said no to any proposal put forth by the ARRL that would increase the FCC's oversight thereof."   The FCC has no desire, manpower, equipment

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ARRL proposal removes baud rate limitations on HF

2006-02-08 Thread Danny Douglas
My taxes already are there to provide federal law enforcement, as well as other essential services. If there is not enough money, quit "loaning" billions to "poor" countries, and then forgiving them for not paying it back. If there is a FCC rule, enforce it. It is no different than my pushing

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ARRL proposal removes baud rate limitations on HF

2006-02-08 Thread kd4e
Who will enforce this using what source of funding? The FCC has no such resources in their current budget nor the necessary technical infrastructure. Were this to be implemented it would require a significant budgetary increase from Congress or a transfer of resources within the FCC. One probabi

Re: [digitalradio] RM-11306

2006-02-08 Thread Thomas Giella KN4LF
Dave et all,   The first sentence in my last email, "We silly Americans think that just because we prop up the rest of the world with $$$ and also protect it from the "real" bad guys,that the world should do everything "our way." and the use of the word bickering was tongue in cheek.   I