[digitalradio] Re: RTTY Hall of Shame

2006-09-25 Thread Dav1dSm1th
Whilst your list can be construed as informative, contentious, destructive etc etc depending on your point of view, it really highlights the nonsense of trying to maintain a beacon system in the middle of a very active band. Whilst education should work, surely 95% of the problem could have

Re: [digitalradio] tell me again

2006-09-25 Thread Mark Miller
The OTHER GUY makes sure that he transmits Mark on the higher RF frequency and Space of the lower RF frequency with a 170 Hz shift. You do not care whether he does this on USB or LSB. At your end YOUR equipment requires 2125 and 2295 for Mark and Space respectively, it is YOUR

RE: [digitalradio] Re: RTTY Hall of Shame

2006-09-25 Thread Dave Cole (NK7Z/NNN0RDO)
Hi, While I enjoy the use of the beacons, (and try and stay away from the freqs), I agree with the last post, the idea of putting them in the middle of the band was not a scaleable, or even a well thought out solution. Unless there has been a rule change, enforcement of this must be on a

Re: [digitalradio] Re: RTTY Hall of Shame

2006-09-25 Thread Jose A. Amador
If the beacons are moved, I am not sure where they would receive less QRM, if on the low end contending with CW DX or in the high end contending with the family radiotelephones Something elseOO's only have jurisdiction within the US...the world is wider. So, a well thought solution is

Re: [digitalradio] Re: RTTY Hall of Shame

2006-09-25 Thread KV9U
Could not agree more. Unless some infraction of the rules are being made, it is highly improper for any ham to criticize another ham for their legal operations. To my knowledge, the amateur radio rules here in the U.S. only restrict the 14.100 frequency from use by the fully automatic 500 Hz

Re: [digitalradio] Re: RTTY Hall of Shame

2006-09-25 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
I asked a while back about how many logging and contesting programs have band plans in them. Given that 14.100 is in the IARU Band Plan, we should be encouraged to follow it. Leigh/WA5ZNU Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW

Re: [digitalradio] Re: RTTY Hall of Shame

2006-09-25 Thread Salomao Fresco
Hi Jose Amador has hit the proverbial nail in the head: ...the world is wider. Monitoring the Beacons since 2003 Best regards Sal CT2IRJ On 9/25/06, Jose A. Amador [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the beacons are moved, I am not sure where they would receive less QRM, if on the low end

Re: [digitalradio] Re: RTTY Hall of Shame

2006-09-25 Thread Salomao Fresco
Hi! Inspite of the global characteristics of this Group, wich I proudly subscribe, most of the messages are writtten by US citizens, regarding US rules and US practices and US bandplan (Region 2). However most of the writers forget that there are two other IARU Regions and National Bandplans.

[digitalradio] Re: Beacons the IARU [Was: RTTY Hall of Shame]

2006-09-25 Thread kd4e
I asked a while back about how many logging and contesting programs have band plans in them. Given that 14.100 is in the IARU Band Plan, we should be encouraged to follow it. Leigh/WA5ZNU Or, Hams in nations around the world may choose to take a new look under new circumstances and

RE: [digitalradio] Re: RTTY Hall of Shame

2006-09-25 Thread Chris Jewell
Dave Cole (NK7Z/NNN0RDO) writes: ... Unless there has been a rule change, enforcement of this must be on a voluntary basis, period, I saw a post about involving the OOs, and the FCC. Has this frequency been officially allocated? If not, then involving an OO would be real abuse of power,

[digitalradio] IARU Beacons 14100kHz (14099.5 kHz - 14100.5 kHz guard band)

2006-09-25 Thread expeditionradio
For those who are unfamiliar with it, here is some information about the IARU/NCDXF beacons (see link), and the subject of interference (see attached text below). Link: http://www.ncdxf.org/Beacon/intro.html 73---Bonnie KQ6XA Beacon Interference (Excerpts from the IARU/NCDXF website) The

Re: [RTTY] Fwd: [digitalradio] RTTY Hall of Shame

2006-09-25 Thread Andrew O'Brien
I hear beacons on this freq all the time and use them daily to determine band openings. On 9/25/06, John Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone ever copied a beacon on 14,100 ? ? ? I don't recall doing so in my 35 years as a ham. That may be the shame of the whole deal

Re: [RTTY] Fwd: [digitalradio] RTTY Hall of Shame

2006-09-25 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Jim, you will NOT hear them simply by casually tuning by the frequency. There are many beacons around the world and their signals are times so that each one transmits for a few seconds while the others are silent. So, depedening on the time and on propagation, you may endure a minute or two or

Re: [RTTY] Fwd: [digitalradio] RTTY Hall of Shame

2006-09-25 Thread John Becker
I think that today you would get a much better picture of band openings by checking http://www.propnet.org/ ... There not only can you check propagation but also from band to band with maps. And who is coping who. Such a much better view of what is going on. John, W0JAB At 08:18 PM 9/25/2006,

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Beacons the IARU [Was: RTTY Hall of Shame]

2006-09-25 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
Good point! Just like the DX entities list, the band plan should be dynamic, location sensitive, and of course user-configurable. Leigh/WA5ZNU On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 1:08 pm, kd4e wrote: I asked a while back about how many logging and contesting programs have band plans in them. Given that